john.islington@mac.com

So.. here's the plan....

I stay for one night at a London backpacker hostel/etc.

I receive mail there

I tell all my banks that is my new address

then I emigrate


Then all the mail that comes will be 'RETURN TO SENDER' by the youth
hostel..




Also... what if I stayed in the UK.. but wanted to avoid those pesky
debt collectors and baliffs? I could just use my youth hostel address.

btw.. how do homeless people get mail? Not all of them are tramps, some
of them are educated people... what do they do?

Fran

john.islington@mac.com said...
> So.. here's the plan....
>
> I stay for one night at a London backpacker hostel/etc.
>
> I receive mail there
>
> I tell all my banks that is my new address

?? *All* your banks?? Blimey, how many have you got?

> then I emigrate
>
Light dawns...


> Then all the mail that comes will be 'RETURN TO SENDER' by the youth
> hostel..
>
What fun 'twould be to be the warden. Not.
>
> Also... what if I stayed in the UK.. but wanted to avoid those pesky
> debt collectors and baliffs? I could just use my youth hostel address.

Or indeed any other address, like your local police station.

> btw.. how do homeless people get mail? Not all of them are tramps, some
> of them are educated people... what do they do?
>
Why not ask the next one you see?

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On 27 Aug 2006 05:06:11 -0700, john.islington@mac.com wrote:


>btw.. how do homeless people get mail? Not all of them are tramps, some
>of them are educated people... what do they do?

We have friends of family who can provide us with an address.

Jim.

Peter Saxton

On 27 Aug 2006 05:06:11 -0700, john.islington@mac.com wrote:

>So.. here's the plan....
>
>I stay for one night at a London backpacker hostel/etc.
>
>I receive mail there
>
>I tell all my banks that is my new address
>
>then I emigrate
>
>
>Then all the mail that comes will be 'RETURN TO SENDER' by the youth
>hostel..
>
So?
>
>
>
>Also... what if I stayed in the UK.. but wanted to avoid those pesky
>debt collectors and baliffs? I could just use my youth hostel address.
>
Use your youth hostel address for what? Living in?

>btw.. how do homeless people get mail? Not all of them are tramps, some
>of them are educated people... what do they do?

If they are homeless they don't get mail.

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Tiddy Ogg

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On 27 Aug 2006 05:06:11 -0700, john.islington@mac.com wrote:
>
>>btw.. how do homeless people get mail? Not all of them are tramps, some
>>of them are educated people... what do they do?
>
>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
You can ask your local post office to hold it for you, or get a proper
PO Box address.

Tiddy Ogg.
http://www.tiddyogg.co.uk

Jim Ley

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>If they are homeless they don't get mail.

Of course they might, What a stupid statement.

Jim.

Peter Saxton

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
>
>Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
>
>Jim.

Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?

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Jim Ley

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:07:48 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
>>
>>Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
>>
>>Jim.
>
>Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?

To get things like new credit cards delivered to them, or cheques, or
all sorts, the same sort of reasons everyone else wants mail.

Jim.

Peter Saxton

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:35:15 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:07:48 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>>><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
>>>
>>>Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
>>>
>>>Jim.
>>
>>Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>
>To get things like new credit cards delivered to them, or cheques, or
>all sorts, the same sort of reasons everyone else wants mail.
>
>Jim.

Homeless people will get credit cards and cheques?

You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.

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Jim Ley

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:46:16 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:35:15 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>>
>>To get things like new credit cards delivered to them, or cheques, or
>>all sorts, the same sort of reasons everyone else wants mail.
>>
>>Jim.
>
>Homeless people will get credit cards and cheques?
>
>You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.

I am a homeless person and I do... Do you think the travel-lodge
where I've slept most nights this year would be happy to deal with the
post for me?

You seem to have a very narrow view of what a homeless person might
be.

Jim.

Peter Saxton

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:13:42 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:46:16 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 10:35:15 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>>Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>>>
>>>To get things like new credit cards delivered to them, or cheques, or
>>>all sorts, the same sort of reasons everyone else wants mail.
>>>
>>>Jim.
>>
>>Homeless people will get credit cards and cheques?
>>
>>You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.
>
>I am a homeless person and I do... Do you think the travel-lodge
>where I've slept most nights this year would be happy to deal with the
>post for me?
>
>You seem to have a very narrow view of what a homeless person might
>be.
>
>Jim.

You're not homeless then.

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peter@petersaxton.co.uk

Jim Ley

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:02:05 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:13:42 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.
>>
>>I am a homeless person and I do... Do you think the travel-lodge
>>where I've slept most nights this year would be happy to deal with the
>>post for me?
>>
>>You seem to have a very narrow view of what a homeless person might
>>be.
>
>You're not homeless then.

I have no home, so I'm homeless, the only place I've slept
successively for more than 6 days this year was on holiday - exactly
what definition are you requiring for homeless, and how are you so
sure the OP was using your own rather peculiar definition?

Jim.

Fran

Peter Saxton said...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
> ><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
> >
> >Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
> >
>
> Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>
Do people 'choose' to be homeless? Do homeless people not have anyone
to send them mail? Not even the Benefits Agency?

Warning: this will resemble a rant...

I think maybe you should take a wander around your local big town and
speak to some of the people you see huddled up in shop doorways. Ask
them how much they really like it when it's pouring with rain. I
suspect that most people would much prefer to have a decent roof over
their heads, but it's all too easy to get into a downward spiral. You
need a permanent address to get a job; you need a job to pay the rent.
Where, then, do you start? It's all very well for us in our cosy houses
and flats to tell people to get off their arses and find a job, but if
someone can't find paid employment with qualifications and a nice cosy
middle class mortgage what hope has someone without (apparently)
anything going for them?

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Fran

Jim Ley said...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:02:05 +0100, Peter Saxton
> <peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:13:42 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
> >>>You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.
> >>
> >>I am a homeless person and I do... Do you think the travel-lodge
> >>where I've slept most nights this year would be happy to deal with the
> >>post for me?
> >>
> >>You seem to have a very narrow view of what a homeless person might
> >>be.
> >
> >You're not homeless then.
>
> I have no home, so I'm homeless, the only place I've slept
> successively for more than 6 days this year was on holiday - exactly
> what definition are you requiring for homeless, and how are you so
> sure the OP was using your own rather peculiar definition?
>
You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
to this NG...

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:32:21 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:02:05 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:13:42 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>>>You act like they are living a similar life to the rest of us.
>>>
>>>I am a homeless person and I do... Do you think the travel-lodge
>>>where I've slept most nights this year would be happy to deal with the
>>>post for me?
>>>
>>>You seem to have a very narrow view of what a homeless person might
>>>be.
>>
>>You're not homeless then.
>
>I have no home, so I'm homeless, the only place I've slept
>successively for more than 6 days this year was on holiday - exactly
>what definition are you requiring for homeless, and how are you so
>sure the OP was using your own rather peculiar definition?
>
>Jim.

What is my definition?

What is peculiar about it?

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Peter Saxton

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:51:53 +0100, Fran
<arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:

>Peter Saxton said...
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>> >On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>> ><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>> >
>> >>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
>> >
>> >Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
>> >
>>
>> Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>>
>Do people 'choose' to be homeless? Do homeless people not have anyone
>to send them mail? Not even the Benefits Agency?
>
>Warning: this will resemble a rant...
>
>I think maybe you should take a wander around your local big town and
>speak to some of the people you see huddled up in shop doorways. Ask
>them how much they really like it when it's pouring with rain. I
>suspect that most people would much prefer to have a decent roof over
>their heads, but it's all too easy to get into a downward spiral. You
>need a permanent address to get a job; you need a job to pay the rent.
>Where, then, do you start? It's all very well for us in our cosy houses
>and flats to tell people to get off their arses and find a job, but if
>someone can't find paid employment with qualifications and a nice cosy
>middle class mortgage what hope has someone without (apparently)
>anything going for them?

They can stay in hostels if they wanted to.

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Fran

Peter Saxton said...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:51:53 +0100, Fran
> <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >Peter Saxton said...
> >> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
> >> ><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
> >> >
> >> >Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
> >>
> >Do people 'choose' to be homeless? Do homeless people not have anyone
> >to send them mail? Not even the Benefits Agency?
> >
> >Warning: this will resemble a rant...
> >
> >I think maybe you should take a wander around your local big town and
> >speak to some of the people you see huddled up in shop doorways. Ask
> >them how much they really like it when it's pouring with rain. I
> >suspect that most people would much prefer to have a decent roof over
> >their heads, but it's all too easy to get into a downward spiral. You
> >need a permanent address to get a job; you need a job to pay the rent.
> >Where, then, do you start? It's all very well for us in our cosy houses
> >and flats to tell people to get off their arses and find a job, but if
> >someone can't find paid employment with qualifications and a nice cosy
> >middle class mortgage what hope has someone without (apparently)
> >anything going for them?
>
> They can stay in hostels if they wanted to.
>
Are you serious? I mean, are you really serious? Here's a hostel with
6 beds and here are 7 people. What are you going to do? Honestly, what
are you going to do? Are you going to shove the unfortunate 7th on the
floor, or are you going to tell him (or her) that you're very sorry but
you're full and don't have a spare bed? For pity's sake, THINK before
you type.

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Fran <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net>typed

> You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
> to this NG...

I would have thought such would be possible through a laptop connected
through a mobile phone.

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Peter Saxton

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:24:52 +0100, Fran
<arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:

>Peter Saxton said...
>> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:51:53 +0100, Fran
>> <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Peter Saxton said...
>> >> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:17:02 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:35:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>> >> ><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>If they are homeless they don't get mail.
>> >> >
>> >> >Of course they might, What a stupid statement.
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?
>> >>
>> >Do people 'choose' to be homeless? Do homeless people not have anyone
>> >to send them mail? Not even the Benefits Agency?
>> >
>> >Warning: this will resemble a rant...
>> >
>> >I think maybe you should take a wander around your local big town and
>> >speak to some of the people you see huddled up in shop doorways. Ask
>> >them how much they really like it when it's pouring with rain. I
>> >suspect that most people would much prefer to have a decent roof over
>> >their heads, but it's all too easy to get into a downward spiral. You
>> >need a permanent address to get a job; you need a job to pay the rent.
>> >Where, then, do you start? It's all very well for us in our cosy houses
>> >and flats to tell people to get off their arses and find a job, but if
>> >someone can't find paid employment with qualifications and a nice cosy
>> >middle class mortgage what hope has someone without (apparently)
>> >anything going for them?
>>
>> They can stay in hostels if they wanted to.
>>
>Are you serious? I mean, are you really serious? Here's a hostel with
>6 beds and here are 7 people. What are you going to do? Honestly, what
>are you going to do? Are you going to shove the unfortunate 7th on the
>floor, or are you going to tell him (or her) that you're very sorry but
>you're full and don't have a spare bed? For pity's sake, THINK before
>you type.

Calm down. Get a grip of yourself.

Hysterical people like you are no use to anyone.

Look at the following site. There's plenty of ways to get somewhere to
stay.

http://www.homelessuk.org/

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Colin Forrester

Peter Saxton wrote:

>>> If they are homeless they don't get mail.

>> Of course they might, What a stupid statement.

> Why should they want mail if they choose to be homeless?

You evidently don't know (m)any homeless. Some often get letters from
friends and family - delivered to maildrops such as shelters, vicarages,
etc. Some homeless have even used the telephone to keep in contact.

Peter

"Helen Deborah Vecht" <helenvecht@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:313030303736393544F3024584@zetnet.co.uk...
> Fran <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net>typed
>
>> You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
>> to this NG...
>
> I would have thought such would be possible through a laptop connected
> through a mobile phone.
>
> --
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> Edgware.

There are various definitions of homeless, which can include administrative,
political, social, self-defined, other-defined, etc.

Most homeless people can receive mail directed to a different address. This
may be the address of a friend, organisation, etc.

Homeless people can and do have bank accounts, jobs, cars, etc.

You do not need a job to pay your rent - benefits can pay this.

You do not need a mortgage to get a home - you can rent from private or
social landlords.

Most homeless hostels are not dormitory based.

A lot of homelessness is not caused through poverty or lack of income,
whether earned or through the benefits system (although this can be a
contributory factor), but through issues such as mental (ill)health and
substance mis-use.

HTH - Peter

Jim Ley

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:57:04 +0100, Fran
<arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:

>You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
>to this NG...

What why? Even when I sleep in the car or the tent I have no problem
powering the laptop, and the datacard will get me online even if
there's no wifi, although I tend to have little trouble finding that,
and it's a lot cheaper, even without though Usenet is a pretty good
way of good spending the time without having to pay to download a lot
of data.

I do have a base of some sort certainly, but it's got nowt to do with
my ability to post to usenet.

Jim.

Jim Ley

On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:09:10 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:32:21 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
>>>You're not homeless then.
>>
>>I have no home, so I'm homeless,
>
>What is my definition?
>
>What is peculiar about it?

I've no idea, you've not told me, you've told me one fact about it
though, that I don't come into your definition, that's why I believe
it's weird, because I am homeless.

It's also peculiar in that you don't believe there would be any reason
to send them mail.

Jim.

Fran

Helen Deborah Vecht said...
> Fran <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net>typed
>
> > You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
> > to this NG...
>
> I would have thought such would be possible through a laptop connected
> through a mobile phone.
>
Fair enough. I checked the headers first in case he was using
Googlegroups from a public library... ;-)

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Peter Saxton said...
> Calm down. Get a grip of yourself.
>
> Hysterical people like you are no use to anyone.
>
Blimey, I've never been called hysterical before!

As for being no use to anyone, perhaps you should ask my children if I'm
any use before you put me out to grass...

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Jim Ley said...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:57:04 +0100, Fran
> <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >You do at least have some sort of base, or you wouldn't be able to post
> >to this NG...
>
> What why? Even when I sleep in the car or the tent I have no problem
> powering the laptop, and the datacard will get me online even if
> there's no wifi, although I tend to have little trouble finding that,
> and it's a lot cheaper, even without though Usenet is a pretty good
> way of good spending the time without having to pay to download a lot
> of data.

OK, fair enough.

> I do have a base of some sort certainly, but it's got nowt to do with
> my ability to post to usenet.

Sorry.

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On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:16:10 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:09:10 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:32:21 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>>>>You're not homeless then.
>>>
>>>I have no home, so I'm homeless,
>>
>>What is my definition?
>>
>>What is peculiar about it?
>
>I've no idea, you've not told me, you've told me one fact about it
>though, that I don't come into your definition, that's why I believe
>it's weird, because I am homeless.
>
You say my definition is peculaiar but now you say you don't know what
my definition is!

>It's also peculiar in that you don't believe there would be any reason
>to send them mail.
>
>Jim.

If you're staying most nights at a place and chose to spend some
nights in a car that's weird but your choice. I don't think it means
you are homeless.

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Peter Saxton

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:20:08 +0100, Fran
<arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:

>Peter Saxton said...
>> Calm down. Get a grip of yourself.
>>
>> Hysterical people like you are no use to anyone.
>>
>Blimey, I've never been called hysterical before!
>
This seems pretty hysterical to me:

"Are you serious? I mean, are you really serious?"

"For pity's sake, THINK before you type."

>As for being no use to anyone, perhaps you should ask my children if I'm
>any use before you put me out to grass...

You ask what should be done if there isn't enough room in a hostel and
when I tell you you ignore it. That's an example of being useless.

What's your children got to do with anything?

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Jim Ley

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:36:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>If you're staying most nights at a place and chose to spend some
>nights in a car that's weird but your choice. I don't think it means
>you are homeless.

Where did I say I "staying most nights at a place" I said the place
I'd slept the most this yeah was a travel-lodge, I've still stayed
there no more than 50 days this year.

Jim.

Fran

Peter Saxton said...
> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:20:08 +0100, Fran
> <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >Peter Saxton said...
> >> Calm down. Get a grip of yourself.
> >>
> >> Hysterical people like you are no use to anyone.
> >>
> >Blimey, I've never been called hysterical before!
> >
> This seems pretty hysterical to me:
>
> "Are you serious? I mean, are you really serious?"
>
> "For pity's sake, THINK before you type."

Not hysterical, just having difficulty believing that anyone so
apparently literate could be so mentally dense.
>
> >As for being no use to anyone, perhaps you should ask my children if I'm
> >any use before you put me out to grass...
>
> You ask what should be done if there isn't enough room in a hostel and
> when I tell you you ignore it. That's an example of being useless.

Where did you tell me the answer? Could you repeat it please, because
I've missed it somehow.

> What's your children got to do with anything?
>
You told me I was useless. They might disagree. They'd also disagree
about the hysteria. Still, if you want to infer things from my posts,
you carry on.

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On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:04:17 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:36:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>If you're staying most nights at a place and chose to spend some
>>nights in a car that's weird but your choice. I don't think it means
>>you are homeless.
>
>Where did I say I "staying most nights at a place" I said the place
>I'd slept the most this yeah was a travel-lodge, I've still stayed
>there no more than 50 days this year.
>
>Jim.

Here:

"Do you think the travel-lodge where I've slept most nights this year
would be happy to deal with the post for me?"

--
Peter Saxton from London
peter@petersaxton.co.uk

Jim Ley

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:22:22 +0100, Peter Saxton
<peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:04:17 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:36:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>If you're staying most nights at a place and chose to spend some
>>>nights in a car that's weird but your choice. I don't think it means
>>>you are homeless.
>>
>>Where did I say I "staying most nights at a place" I said the place
>>I'd slept the most this yeah was a travel-lodge, I've still stayed
>>there no more than 50 days this year.
>>
>>Jim.
>
>Here:
>
>"Do you think the travel-lodge where I've slept most nights this year
>would be happy to deal with the post for me?"

So there was a missing the, I'm sorry. I note you've not answered the
question though, of what your definition is for homelessness, and why
I don't qualify?

Jim.

Peter Saxton

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:15:05 +0100, Fran
<arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:

>Peter Saxton said...
>> On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 02:20:08 +0100, Fran
>> <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Peter Saxton said...
>> >> Calm down. Get a grip of yourself.
>> >>
>> >> Hysterical people like you are no use to anyone.
>> >>
>> >Blimey, I've never been called hysterical before!
>> >
>> This seems pretty hysterical to me:
>>
>> "Are you serious? I mean, are you really serious?"
>>
>> "For pity's sake, THINK before you type."
>
>Not hysterical, just having difficulty believing that anyone so
>apparently literate could be so mentally dense.

I showed you an example of reality with the link but you missed it. It
seemed quite easy to spot to someone of reasonable intelligence yet
maybe someone who resorts to insults as soon as someone disagrees with
them has problems.
>>
>> >As for being no use to anyone, perhaps you should ask my children if I'm
>> >any use before you put me out to grass...
>>
>> You ask what should be done if there isn't enough room in a hostel and
>> when I tell you you ignore it. That's an example of being useless.
>
>Where did you tell me the answer? Could you repeat it please, because
>I've missed it somehow.
>
Read my message and follow the link.

>> What's your children got to do with anything?
>>
>You told me I was useless. They might disagree. They'd also disagree
>about the hysteria. Still, if you want to infer things from my posts,
>you carry on.

Your children will agree with you? Well done, you must be right!

I've seen you inferring things from my posts yet if I do it in a
logical way you don't like it. Typical!

--
Peter Saxton from London
peter@petersaxton.co.uk

Peter Saxton

On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:42:31 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:

>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:22:22 +0100, Peter Saxton
><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:04:17 GMT, jim@jibbering.com (Jim Ley) wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 05:36:00 +0100, Peter Saxton
>>><peter@petersaxton.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>If you're staying most nights at a place and chose to spend some
>>>>nights in a car that's weird but your choice. I don't think it means
>>>>you are homeless.
>>>
>>>Where did I say I "staying most nights at a place" I said the place
>>>I'd slept the most this yeah was a travel-lodge, I've still stayed
>>>there no more than 50 days this year.
>>>
>>>Jim.
>>
>>Here:
>>
>>"Do you think the travel-lodge where I've slept most nights this year
>>would be happy to deal with the post for me?"
>
>So there was a missing the, I'm sorry. I note you've not answered the
>question though, of what your definition is for homelessness, and why
>I don't qualify?
>
>Jim.

When did you ask tha