Black Sail

Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)

http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html

Nigel
replace SPAMHATER with n and t*sc*li with totalise

SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said...
> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)
>
> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html
>
I'm intrigued by this gem:
"Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association
wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..."

Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering?

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SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk wrote:
> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)
>
Is that the rustle of grant application papers I hear?

Fran wrote:

> SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said...
>> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)
>>
>> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html
>>
> I'm intrigued by this gem:
> "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association
> wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..."
>
> Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering?

Not when I stayed there two years ago. It *was* curry night though I don't
remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer...
--
Dave

Dave Pickles said...
> Fran wrote:
>
> > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said...
> >> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)
> >>
> >> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html
> >>
> > I'm intrigued by this gem:
> > "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association
> > wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..."
> >
> > Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering?
>
> Not when I stayed there two years ago. It *was* curry night though I don't
> remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer...
>
<checks website>
Good grief, so they do! I was convinced it were self-catering only for
some reason. Sorry 'bout that.

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"Fran" <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Dave Pickles said...
>> Fran wrote:
>>
>> > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said...
>> >> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so)
>> >>
>> >> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html
>> >>
>> > I'm intrigued by this gem:
>> > "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association
>> > wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..."
>> >
>> > Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering?
>>
>> Not when I stayed there two years ago. It *was* curry night though I
>> don't
>> remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer...
>>
> <checks website>
> Good grief, so they do! I was convinced it were self-catering only for
> some reason. Sorry 'bout that.

Hasn't been self catering only for many a year. The warden can get there by
car, as near as damn it;-) Probably it will end up on the YHA hit list of
closures in the near future:-( Unless the LDNP or local council intervene
with grants. Maybe they do.
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<SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:14:34 -0000, "C R Fishwick"
> <crfishwick@nospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>Hasn't been self catering only for many a year. The warden can get there
>>by
>>car, as near as damn it;-) Probably it will end up on the YHA hit list of
>>closures in the near future:-( Unless the LDNP or local council intervene
>>with grants. Maybe they do.
>
> If you had read the original link you'd see that use of the land rover
> to get there by the warden is on the way out and that there is an
> appeal to raise funds for refurbishment of both Black Sail and
> Ennerdale.

I didn't need to read it! I was replying to Fran actually as the top line
tells you;-)

I probably know Blacksail quite well over many years, better than a
journalist.

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Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle.
North Yorkshire and East Lancashire.
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> More information here

I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale
appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that.

I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they
intend to *do* at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part
with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on.

All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a
few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite
nicely vamped as it was.

-- Chris

In article <1165246067.471002.120050@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
Chris Hunt <chris@leicesteryha.org.uk> writes
>
>> More information here
>
>I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale
>appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that.
>
>I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they
>intend to *do* at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part
>with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on.
>
>All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a
>few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite
>nicely vamped as it was.
>
>-- Chris
>
It means they are putting in disabled toilets - go take a look at
Longthwaite.
--
Ken

Ken said...
> In article <1165246067.471002.120050@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> Chris Hunt <chris@leicesteryha.org.uk> writes
> >
> >> More information here
> >
> >I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale
> >appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that.
> >
> >I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they
> >intend to *do* at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part
> >with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on.
> >
> >All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a
> >few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite
> >nicely vamped as it was.
> >
> It means they are putting in disabled toilets - go take a look at
> Longthwaite.
>
Excellent. There must be so many disabled people staying at Black Sail,
what with it being so handy for the buses and all...

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Chris Bonnington was on the Radio 4 Today Programme this morning
talking about the project. Apparently there will eventually be no
vehicular access to Black Sail at all, not even for emergency services
(which seems a little chancy), and the hostel is to become totally
self-sufficient. There was talk of solar panels, a wind turbine and
composting toilets, but not a lot more detail. There's a page on the
BBC News site at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6216678.stm
..

They've already been busy round the corner in Derwentwater YH. They've
installed a water turbine that's generating 40% of their electricity
(see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6204246.stm ).
Apparently it's gonna save YHA four grand a year too.

I've posted a report about this at
http://www.yhagroup.org.uk/archives/green-lakes

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SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk	Black Sail Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html Nigel replace SPAMHATER with n and tscli with totalise

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Fran	Re: Black Sail SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said... > Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) > > http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html > I'm intrigued by this gem: "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..." Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering? -- To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @ where common sense dictates.

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Jacki	Re: Black Sail SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk wrote: > Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) > Is that the rustle of grant application papers I hear?

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Dave Pickles	Re: Black Sail Fran wrote: > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said... >> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) >> >> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html >> > I'm intrigued by this gem: > "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association > wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..." > > Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering? Not when I stayed there two years ago. It was curry night though I don't remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer... -- Dave

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Fran	Re: Black Sail Dave Pickles said... > Fran wrote: > > > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said... > >> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) > >> > >> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html > >> > > I'm intrigued by this gem: > > "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association > > wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..." > > > > Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering? > > Not when I stayed there two years ago. It was curry night though I don't > remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer... > <checks website> Good grief, so they do! I was convinced it were self-catering only for some reason. Sorry 'bout that. -- To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @ where common sense dictates.

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C R Fishwick	Re: Black Sail "Fran" <arjfatcymoeddorguk@privacy.net> wrote in message news:MPG.1fbf1c82df251f5f98c16c@news.individual.ne t... > Dave Pickles said... >> Fran wrote: >> >> > SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk said... >> >> Article in The Guardian for the right reasons (well I think so) >> >> >> >> http://environment.guardian.co.uk/en...941910,00.html >> >> >> > I'm intrigued by this gem: >> > "Sleepers are not allowed to drive in, but the Youth Hostel Association >> > wardens, famous for their curries and a 30-strong wine list,..." >> > >> > Curries and a wine list? At Black Sail?? Isn't it 100% self-catering? >> >> Not when I stayed there two years ago. It was curry night though I >> don't >> remember any wine on offer - just lots of beer... >> > <checks website> > Good grief, so they do! I was convinced it were self-catering only for > some reason. Sorry 'bout that. Hasn't been self catering only for many a year. The warden can get there by car, as near as damn it;-) Probably it will end up on the YHA hit list of closures in the near future:-( Unless the LDNP or local council intervene with grants. Maybe they do. -- Craven and Pendle Birds: Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle. North Yorkshire and East Lancashire. http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/

	#7
C R Fishwick	Re: Black Sail <SPAMHATERepper@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:uu8rl21q7nqnv6arfg2glv9n285cspau9g@4ax.com... > On Fri, 17 Nov 2006 10:14:34 -0000, "C R Fishwick" > <crfishwick@nospamhotmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hasn't been self catering only for many a year. The warden can get there >>by >>car, as near as damn it;-) Probably it will end up on the YHA hit list of >>closures in the near future:-( Unless the LDNP or local council intervene >>with grants. Maybe they do. > > If you had read the original link you'd see that use of the land rover > to get there by the warden is on the way out and that there is an > appeal to raise funds for refurbishment of both Black Sail and > Ennerdale. I didn't need to read it! I was replying to Fran actually as the top line tells you;-) I probably know Blacksail quite well over many years, better than a journalist. -- Craven and Pendle Birds: Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle. North Yorkshire and East Lancashire. http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/

	#8
Chris Hunt	Re: Black Sail > More information here I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that. I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they intend to do at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on. All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite nicely vamped as it was. -- Chris

	#9
Ken	Re: Black Sail In article <1165246067.471002.120050@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>, Chris Hunt <chris@leicesteryha.org.uk> writes > >> More information here > >I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale >appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that. > >I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they >intend to do at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part >with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on. > >All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a >few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite >nicely vamped as it was. > >-- Chris > It means they are putting in disabled toilets - go take a look at Longthwaite. -- Ken

	#10
Fran	Re: Black Sail Ken said... > In article <1165246067.471002.120050@j44g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>, > Chris Hunt <chris@leicesteryha.org.uk> writes > > > >> More information here > > > >I note the YHA are prominently linking to the Black Sail/Ennerdale > >appeal page from their home page. Kudos for that. > > > >I also note that the aforementioned page doesn't actually say what they > >intend to do at these two hostels. I'm a lot less inclined to part > >with my hard-earned if I don't know what it's going to be spent on. > > > >All the page says is that Black Sail is going to be "revamped". It's a > >few years since I last stayed there, but I remember it being quite > >nicely vamped as it was. > > > It means they are putting in disabled toilets - go take a look at > Longthwaite. > Excellent. There must be so many disabled people staying at Black Sail, what with it being so handy for the buses and all... -- To reply see 'from' in headers; lose the domain, and insert dots and @ where common sense dictates.

	#11
Chris Hunt	Re: Black Sail Chris Bonnington was on the Radio 4 Today Programme this morning talking about the project. Apparently there will eventually be no vehicular access to Black Sail at all, not even for emergency services (which seems a little chancy), and the hostel is to become totally self-sufficient. There was talk of solar panels, a wind turbine and composting toilets, but not a lot more detail. There's a page on the BBC News site at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6216678.stm .. They've already been busy round the corner in Derwentwater YH. They've installed a water turbine that's generating 40% of their electricity (see http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6204246.stm ). Apparently it's gonna save YHA four grand a year too.

	#12
Chris Hunt	Re: Black Sail I've posted a report about this at http://www.yhagroup.org.uk/archives/green-lakes