torresD

Photo Story of Rachel Corrie's Murder
http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article1248.shtml


http://capwiz.com/adc/issues/alert/?alertid=1795771
On March 25, 2003,

Representatives Baird (D-Washington),
McDermott (D-Washington),
Inslee (D-Washington),
A. Smith (Washington)
Dicks (D-Washington),
Larsen (D-Washington),
Lewis (D-Georgia),
Wu (D-California),
Honda (D-California),
Eshoo (D-California),

and Capps (D-California)
introduced a non-binding resolution
(H.Con.Res. 111) expressing sympathy
for the loss of Rachel Corrie in the
Palestinian town of Rafah in the Gaza Strip.
----------------------------------------------------------
Resolution Calls for Investigating Rachel Corrie’s Death
Ask Congress to Support H.Con.Res. 111


Issue: On March 16, 2003,
American college student and peace activist
Rachel Corrie was run over and killed by an
Israeli army bulldozer in the town of Rafah in
the Israeli occupied Gaza Strip. Corrie,
a 23-year-old student at Evergreen
State College in Olympia, Washington,
traveled to the occupied Palestinian
territories to join with the International
Solidarity Movement (ISM) to protect
Palestinian civilians and promote a
peaceful solution the conflict.

She died while attempting to stop the
bulldozing of a Palestinian home by
the Israeli army.

Dana

"torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yup all her friends stood by why she did a very stupid act to get herself
killed. Not one of her friends helped her when it was apparent she was
placing herself in grave danger. So why is it none of her friends helped
her?

Bill Mulcahy

> Yup all her friends stood by why she did a very stupid act to get herself
> killed.

Notice the outrage against the Israeli racist land grabbers? Its about the
same that was
in the national media.

What will it take to wake America up? Our media is Israeli occupied
territory.

Bill Mulcahy

Susan Cohen

"Bill Mulcahy" <wmulcahy@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
news:xamQa.32373$Aw.22629@twister.nyc.rr.com...
>
> > Yup all her friends stood by why she did a very stupid act to get
herself
> > killed.
>
> Notice the outrage against the Israeli racist land grabbers?

Yes, I notice the same lying.

Its about the
> same that was
> in the national media.
>
> What will it take to wake America up? Our media is Israeli occupied
> territory.

Yeah, right.
Yawn.

Susan

Bill Bonde

torresD wrote:
>
> She died while attempting to stop the
> bulldozing of a Palestinian home by
> the Israeli army.
>
She suicided and you know it.



--
"So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some
gold with you?"
"Nope."
"Silver?"
"Just lead."
-+John Wayne, "Chisum"

Susan Cohen

<CondomSqueeza Lice@Outhouse.Gov> wrote in message
newsesQa.38688$EQ5.15224@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Yup. Israel is acting like a bunch of Nazis lately,

Yeah, those Nazis would sure *not* have carpet-bombed people whose sole goal
is to take over their country (look at a map of "Palestine" drawn by the
PLO, lately?) and kill every Nazi, huh?

*plonk* the lying bigot!

Susan

Susan Cohen

"W.N.(Bill) McCaw" <wnmccaw@bmi.net> wrote in message
news:3F12D7C5.B95EFF44@bmi.net...
> Bill Bonde wrote:
> >
> > torresD wrote:
> > >
> > > She died while attempting to stop the
> > > bulldozing of a Palestinian home by
> > > the Israeli army.
> > >
> > She suicided and you know it.
> >
> > --
> > "So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some
> > gold with you?"
> > "Nope."
> > "Silver?"
> > "Just lead."
> > -+John Wayne, "Chisum"
>
> All America cheered when the brave Chinese student stood
> down an armn tank in Tiamenom (sp) Square during the
> uprising several years ago.
>
> How is Rachel Carrie's action of standing in the way of the
> bulldozer different?

Because she was protecting an arms smuggling tunnel hidden under the house.
If you can't tell the difference, I hope you don't get out to vote much.
>
> Seems to me that it shows the Palestinian people that at
> least one American cares for their miserable condition under
> Israeli occupation.

Seems to me it shows that more Americans should be ashamed at being
brainwashed by PLO propaganda.

James Hall

CondomSqueeza ...

> Yup. Israel is acting like a bunch of Nazis lately, doing things like
going
> after families and communities of those who oppose them.

> ...

Sometime when a person or a group finds much success to the point
of excess he/she/they tend to become that which he/she/they once
dispised.

Reference: the rolling bones.

Human nature is an uncontroled and uncontrolable beast proving
once again that we never left the jungle merely altered our backdrop.

JHall.

Jim Riley

On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:14:06 -0400, Julian D. <jules@ersatz.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Jul 2003 20:30:11 GMT, "torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com>
>wrote:

>>Bow wow wow

>Yip yip yip yip!!

>>Woof woof!!

>Yip Yip Yelp Yipp Yip!!

--
Jim Riley

Walter Scott

"She [meaning Rachel Corrie] was on the side of the asshole terrorist
Palestinians," Bill? Proof with that assumption? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~~~
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Susan Cohen

"Walter Scott" <74276___3616@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote in message
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>
>
> "She [meaning Rachel Corrie] was on the side of the asshole terrorist
> Palestinians," Bill? Proof with that assumption?

There's more proof to the assertion than there is to the pretense that she
was murdered. The reason the bulldozer was there in the first place was to
uncover an arms-smuggling tunnel.

Susan

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~~~
> The search for truth requires the courage to accept it.
>
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>
>

Susan Cohen

"Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Walter Scott wrote:
> >
> > "She [meaning Rachel Corrie] was on the side of the asshole terrorist
> > Palestinians," Bill? Proof with that assumption? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> All the Jew haters are on the side of terrorists.

Hmmm. I know that her "letters home" sounded *exaclty* like a dicatated PLO
handbook, but I don't recall her being anti-Jewish. Yes, most of those who
call themselves "just anti-Israeli" really are Jew-haters, but I have,
pseronally, met some people who are just brainwashed. Which is what I think
she was. She spouted party-line like it was drummed into her head while she
slept!!

Susan

Susan Cohen

"Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:3F138A2E.EC97D196@backpacker.com...
>
>
> "CondomSqueeza Lice"@Outhouse.Gov wrote:
> >
>just look at how the 2
> > sides are behaving. Both are despicable. Period.
> >
> No country on Earth would allow the Palestinians to do what they do
> without getting a military response.

& a darned sight harsher than the one Israel gives. Just look at the US!

Anyone who thinks they are being somehow magnanimous or even correct in
equating the two isn't thinking at all.

Susan

Bill Bonde

Susan Cohen wrote:
>
> "Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
> news:3F138A2E.EC97D196@backpacker.com...
> >
> >
> > "CondomSqueeza Lice"@Outhouse.Gov wrote:
> > >
> >just look at how the 2
> > > sides are behaving. Both are despicable. Period.
> > >
> > No country on Earth would allow the Palestinians to do what they do
> > without getting a military response.
>
> & a darned sight harsher than the one Israel gives. Just look at the US!
>
You better believe it.



> Anyone who thinks they are being somehow magnanimous or even correct in
> equating the two isn't thinking at all.
>
Who is equating the two? The US and any other nation would respond with
much more force than Isreal has.




--
"So if you want these horses, I sell them to you. Did you bring some
gold with you?"
"Nope."
"Silver?"
"Just lead."
-+John Wayne, "Chisum"

Crazyalec

"torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<njjQa.1157$lz5.816@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m>...

How much Hamas is paying you to spread muslim terrorist propaganda on internet???
How many infidels are you planning to kill?

Walter Scott

You would assert, Susan, that there's "more proof to the assertion,"
as Bill put it, Rachel Corrie "was on the side of the asshole
terrorist Palestinians" than that Corrie was "murdered?" How so? You
contend the "the reason the bulldozer was there in the first place was
to uncover an arms-smuggling tunnel." Is there proof that Corrie was
there to prevent the discovery and destruction of such tunnels rather
than to protect the house of a doctor whom no one, to my knowledge,
had labeled as a terrorist? I'm not aware that any evidence has
surfaced that Corrie knew any such tunnel(s) opened into that house.
If you know of such proof, please cite and quote it.

The search for truth requires the courage to accept it.

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Martin K.

Why on earth are you trying to be reasonable with Susan Cohen?
She's an insane tribalistic hatemonger. Reason doesn't work.

On Tue, 15 Jul 2003 15:21:54 +0000 (UTC), 74276___3616@COMPUSERVE.COM
(Walter Scott) wrote:

>You would assert, Susan, that there's "more proof to the assertion,"
>as Bill put it, Rachel Corrie "was on the side of the asshole
>terrorist Palestinians" than that Corrie was "murdered?" How so? You
>contend the "the reason the bulldozer was there in the first place was
>to uncover an arms-smuggling tunnel." Is there proof that Corrie was
>there to prevent the discovery and destruction of such tunnels rather
>than to protect the house of a doctor whom no one, to my knowledge,
>had labeled as a terrorist? I'm not aware that any evidence has
>surfaced that Corrie knew any such tunnel(s) opened into that house.
>If you know of such proof, please cite and quote it.
>
>The search for truth requires the courage to accept it.
>
>NTReader v0.37w(P)/Beta (Registered) in conjunction with Net-Tamer.
>

W.N.(Bill) McCaw

Bill Bonde wrote:
>
> Walter Scott wrote:
> >
> > "She [meaning Rachel Corrie] was on the side of the asshole terrorist
> > Palestinians," Bill? Proof with that assumption? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> All the Jew haters are on the side of terrorists.

You aren't a Jew hater because you see the folly of their
actions in the occupied territories. They have always
believed in the concept of an eye for an eye, and in this
situation it just hasn't worked.

The two peoples are of almost identical heritage genetically
but each one wants it all. Both religions are most
comfortable in a controlled environment ran by their
religious chiefs. Pity that they can't admit that the other
side has as valid a reason to exist on these grounds as the
other and that perhaps both would benefit if they learned to
respect and share.

Perhaps the Bush people could learn by seeing that
overwhelming force isn't always the best way to control the
world situation.

I am surprised that we haven't seen suicide bombers yet in
this country.

With so many people hating us, it probably will happen.

Cheers! W.N.(Bill) McCaw
"When in Doubt, Act Like a Pro!"
--
Cheers! W.N.(Bill) McCaw

"When is doubt, Act like a pro!!"

Cap'n TrVth

"Martin K." <kmar@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Why on earth are you trying to be reasonable with Susan Cohen?
> She's an insane tribalistic hatemonger.


Martin did you ever wonder why you never made the S.P. Mullah list?

http://www.geocities.com/seattlepolitics/poll.htm
You must have...

I'll tell you.
It's because even Leftwing K00ks see you as a k00k.

It's true.

Just ask around.

-Cap

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Walter Scott

I don't think there is any credible evidence that Rachel Corrie was
"on the side of the asshole terrorist Palestinians," Bill. Neither is
there evidence she was a "Jew hater." There IS evidence supporting the
notion Rachel Corrie believed Israel was mistreating Palestinians for
reasons she would attribute to President Bush and Prime Minister
Sharon. Of all I've read from her, there's not been a statement of
support for terrorists and terrorism. That's to say there was not
support for the killing of Israeli civilians by way of suicide
bombings and sniper attacks. Corrie, of course, supported the
Palestinian cause of independence from Israel and ISM's stated agenda.
In fact, the Stranger's extensive article on Corrie of several months
ago implies she may have adopted views consistent with anarchy. By
extension, one might surmise Corrie potentially desired for
Palestinians a return to life and culture such as that which existed
before modern Israel came into existence as a nation -- a time when
people of what would now become Palestine were then nomadic and
answered to no form of government except that of the groups in which
they travelled.

As for being a "Jew hater:" note that ISM's members include Jews. Note
also that ISM receives moral support from "refuseniks" in Israel.

It might be fair to conclude, as has Susan Cohen, that Corrie was
"brainwashed;" that she empathized and sympathized with what she saw
as the plight of Palestinians she believed to be oppressed by Israeli
intrusion into Gaza and treatment of civilians there. Certainly, many
Palestinians would argue for the notion they are oppressed. If Corrie
had been exposed to that argument in large measure while she had
witnessed unfair treatment of Palestinians -- and some of what she
described in her reports as well as other events, as in the
destruction of homes that may NOT have been associated with terrorists
and destruction of water wells which seemed to have no strategic value
to anyone except the families who used those wells or lived in those
homes along with restrictions on movement to the point where the local
economy remains stifled and people experience great difficulty in
obtaining the basic necessities of life, smack of oppression -- then
it's logical to surmise that Corrie would develop empathy and sympathy
for Palestinians.

If such was her perspective, was she right to hold it? I'll not
address that issue because addressing whether her perspective on the
conflict between Palestinians and Israel was right or wrong is not
absolutely necessary toward the goal of assessing whether Corrie was
accidentally, negligently or intentionally killed as she attempted to
prevent a bulldozer from doing what its "crew" was assigned to do.
What counts is what happened and why it happened on March 16, 2003 in
front of and in the cab of that bulldozer. That alone determines
whether Corrie's death was the product of an accident, negligence or
intent.

The search for truth requires the courage to accept it.

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Susan Cohen

"Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:3F139EA8.C603001@backpacker.com...
>
>
> Susan Cohen wrote:
> >
> > "Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F138A2E.EC97D196@backpacker.com...
> > >
> > >
> > > "CondomSqueeza Lice"@Outhouse.Gov wrote:
> > > >
> > >just look at how the 2
> > > > sides are behaving. Both are despicable. Period.
> > > >
> > > No country on Earth would allow the Palestinians to do what they do
> > > without getting a military response.
> >
> > & a darned sight harsher than the one Israel gives. Just look at the US!
> >
> You better believe it.
>
> > Anyone who thinks they are being somehow magnanimous or even correct in
> > equating the two isn't thinking at all.
> >
> Who is equating the two?

Not you; the previous poster. That's why I left that part of his post in.

> The US and any other nation would respond with
> much more force than Isreal has.

Oh yes, I've always said this. The US already HAS.

Susan

Susan Cohen

"Nathan A. Stine" <stinerman007@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> The only thing ridiculous is that some people are for Israel because they
> are against Muslims.

Yes, that is ridiculous, since its not the case.

> Ever stop to think both sides could be wrong?

Of course not, since it's clear the so-called Palestinians are in the wrong.

Susan

Susan Cohen

"Nathan A. Stine" <stinerman007@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:bf17sn$k8r$1@proxy1.wright.edu...
>
> "Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
> news:3F138A2E.EC97D196@backpacker.com...
>
> > No country on Earth would allow the Palestinians to do what they do
> > without getting a military response.
>
> No country on Earth would allow Israel to do what they do if Israelis
didn't
> have a Judeo-Christian culture.

You really are dumb!!
I am constantly surprised that people can be as stupid as you appear to be!

Susan

torresD

"Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
news:3F13155D.4B17ACBB@backpacker.com...
>
>
> Walter Scott wrote:
> >
> > "She [meaning Rachel Corrie] was on the side of the asshole terrorist
> > Palestinians," Bill? Proof with that assumption? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >
> All the Jew haters are on the side of terrorists.

Unfortunately, Jews, fleeing the despicable Nazi's
went out of their way to guarantee they would be hated,
by acts like these.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story644.html


On April 21, 1948 Weitz wrote in his diary:

"Our army is steadily conquering [Palestinian]
Arab villages and their inhabitants afraid and
fleeing like mice.

You have no idea what happened in the
[Palestinian] Arab villages.

It is enough that during the night several shells
will whistle over them and they flee for their lives.

Villages are steadily emptying,
and if we continue on this course --
and we shall certainly do so as
our strength increases--

then villages will empty of their inhabitants."

(Israel: A History, p. 174)

torresD

"Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com
> No country on Earth would allow the
> Palestinians to do what they do
> without getting a military response.

What about the stance the Jews, fleeing
the despicable Nazi's took,
to destroy the Palestinians Villages,
forcing them out, killing those that resisted,
you find anything wrong with that, Bonde?

http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story644.html

On April 18, 1948 he also wrote:

"I made a summery of a list of the [Palestinian]
Arab villages which in my opinion must be cleared
out in order to complete Jewish regions.

I also made a summery of the places that
have land disputes and must be settled
by military means."
(Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 186)

torresD

"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com>

No...thou shall not murder is the more correct term.

Unless you consider yourself a
murderer for killing a burglar in
your home who's about to murder your family?
Don't be ridiculous.

That's true.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story644.html

Weitz met Ben-Gurion in Tel Aviv
on April 4 1948 and asked for
audience to discuss the :

"question of evacuating/clearing out the [Palestinian] Arabs. ...

[ten days later] [we] must direct our war
towards the removal of as many Arabs
as possible from boundaries of out state.

The guarding of their property after
their removal is a secondary question,
[Weitz recorded]

Finally it was agreed that I would submit
a proposal for [Palestinian Arab] removal
from localities based on my considerations."

(Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 186)

torresD

"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com
....
> "torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com


> How much Hamas is paying you to spread
>muslim terrorist propaganda on internet???
> How many infidels are you planning to kill?

http://www.palestineremembered.com/A.../Story707.html
Famous Quotes
Michael Bar-Zohar
(one of Ben-Gurion's official biographer)
openly admitted that it was a concocted myth
that "Palestine was an empty land,"
and to a certain degree,
he managed to explain the
evolution of the myth, he wrote:

"Whatever became of the slogan:

A people without a land returns to land without a people?

The simple truth was that Palestine was not an empty land,
and the Jews were only a small minority of its population.

In the days of the empire building,
the Western powers had dismissed natives
as an inconsequential factor in determining
whether or not to settle a territory with immigrants.

Even after the [1st] world war,
the concept of self-determination . . . .
was still reserved exclusively for
the developed world."
(Michael Bar-Zohar, p. 45-46)

torresD

"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "torresD" <torresD30@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<njjQa.1157$lz5.816@newssvr33.news.prodigy.co m>...
>
> How much Hamas is paying you to spread muslim terrorist propaganda on
internet???
> How many infidels are you planning to kill?

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Jerusalem/Sar'a/index.html

Dave Simpson

Susan Cohen wrote:

> Hmmm. I know that her "letters home" sounded *exaclty* like a dicatated PLO
> handbook, but I don't recall her being anti-Jewish. Yes, most of those who
> call themselves "just anti-Israeli" really are Jew-haters, but I have,
> pseronally, met some people who are just brainwashed. Which is what I think
> she was. She spouted party-line like it was drummed into her head while she
> slept!!

What one then asks, Susan, is where the party line originated when
she was still in the States. Was it some left-wing academic she heard
sometime, at, say, Evergreen, then went on to read more party-line
literature, etc.?

http://www.evergreen.edu/


Dave Simpson

Clave

"Dave Simpson" <david_l_simpson@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:23e7f86e.0307151501.2b99c264@posting.google.c om...
> Susan Cohen wrote:
>
> > Hmmm. I know that her "letters home" sounded *exaclty* like a dicatated PLO
> > handbook, but I don't recall her being anti-Jewish. Yes, most of those who
> > call themselves "just anti-Israeli" really are Jew-haters, but I have,
> > pseronally, met some people who are just brainwashed. Which is what I think
> > she was. She spouted party-line like it was drummed into her head while she
> > slept!!
>
> What one then asks, Susan, is where the party line originated when
> she was still in the States. Was it some left-wing academic she heard
> sometime, at, say, Evergreen, then went on to read more party-line
> literature, etc.?

It's almost as if a CHRISTIAN CHURCH got hold of her and filled her head with
all that "faith is nothing without works" nonsense.

Jim

Susan Cohen

"Cap'n TrVth" <The_Telling_Light_of_TrVth@Deal_With_it.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Martin K." <kmar@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:3f141e60.3392217@news.starpower.net...
> >
> > Why on earth are you trying to be reasonable with Susan Cohen?
> > She's an insane tribalistic hatemonger.

Ah, an excellent example of projectionism, the hallmark of the bigot.
>
>
> Martin did you ever wonder why you never made the S.P. Mullah list?
>
> http://www.geocities.com/seattlepolitics/poll.htm
> You must have...
>
> I'll tell you.
> It's because even Leftwing K00ks see you as a k00k.

Leftwing??
Well, I suppose that if one gets left enough, one *could* be a fascist....

Susan

>
> It's true.
>
> Just ask around.


>
> -Cap
>
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Susan Cohen

"Walter Scott" <74276___3616@COMPUSERVE.COM> wrote in message
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>
> It might be fair to conclude, as has Susan Cohen, that Corrie was
> "brainwashed;" that she empathized and sympathized with what she saw
> as the plight of Palestinians she believed to be oppressed by Israeli
> intrusion into Gaza and treatment of civilians there.

Yes, this is pretty much what I believe.
When I say she was siding with terrorists, I don't think that this is what
she set out to do. At best (or worst) she just blinded herself to the one
side of the situation.
I should be more careful how I express myself - thanks for bringing this to
my attention (even if you were trying to do something else).

Susan.

Nathan A. Stine

"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@his.com> wrote in message
news:3f14492d$1_6@vienna7.his.com...
>
> "Nathan A. Stine" <stinerman007@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bf1ee3$rlf$1@proxy1.wright.edu...
> >
> > The only thing ridiculous is that some people are for Israel because
they
> > are against Muslims.
>
> Yes, that is ridiculous, since its not the case.

I know plenty of these people. I have a list if you'd like it.

>
> > Ever stop to think both sides could be wrong?
>
> Of course not, since it's clear the so-called Palestinians are in the
wrong.

I'll admit the terrorist groups (not all Palestinians are terrorists, not
all Jews are Zionists) are sickening because they kill civilians. Our
military kills civilians. The Israeli military kills civilians. Your
attempts at moral equivalency will fail here because there is no such thing.

Sucicide missions are no problem so long as civilians are not involved.
Just because its not traditional, conventional western warfare it doesn't
mean its wrong. Of course, you'd have the Palestinians chucking rocks at the
American-made Israeli tanks. Anything to keep the mud people where they
belong. . .subservient to the "superior" culture.

Stiner
--
.. . .That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute
new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
Safety and Happiness.

-- The Declaration of Independence

>
> Susan
>
>

Nathan A. Stine

"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@his.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Nathan A. Stine" <stinerman007@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bf17sn$k8r$1@proxy1.wright.edu...
> >
> > "Bill Bonde" <sstderr@backpacker.com> wrote in message
> > news:3F138A2E.EC97D196@backpacker.com...
> >
> > > No country on Earth would allow the Palestinians to do what they do
> > > without getting a military response.
> >
> > No country on Earth would allow Israel to do what they do if Israelis
> didn't
> > have a Judeo-Christian culture.
>
> You really are dumb!!
> I am constantly surprised that people can be as stupid as you appear to
be!

If the Israelis weren't white, we wouldn't be on their side. Plain and
simple.

Try to look past your own biases for the real answers. Its tough, I know,
but you'll end up a better person in the end.

Stiner
--
.. . .That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends,
it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute
new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its
powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their
Safety and Happiness.

-- The Declaration of Independence

>
> Susan
>
>

Nathan A. Stine

"Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@his.com> wrote in message
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> "Nathan A. Stine" <stinerman007@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:bf0c0j$6uj$1@proxy1.wright.edu...
> >
> > "Susan Cohen" <flaviaR@his.com> wrote in message
> > news:3f1255eb_1@vienna7.his.com...
> > >
> > > <CondomSqueeza Lice@Outhouse.Gov> wrote in message
> > > newsesQa.38688$EQ5.15224@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> > > > Yup. Israel is acting like a bunch of Nazis lately,
> > >
> > > Yeah, those Nazis would sure *not* have carpet-bombed people whose
sole
> > goal
> > > is to take over their country (look at a map of "Palestine" drawn by
the
> > > PLO, lately?) and