Mr. N

"Walter Goldman" <viper426@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
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> Kerry Voted Against Body Armor for U.S. Troops!!.

No, he didn't. There was never a vote on whether or not to fund body armor
for the troops.

Lying right-wing jackass.

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Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman

Mr. N wrote:
> "Walter Goldman" <viper426@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
> news:m6c6901qlorge5rt8lhhfj572is69777sj@4ax.com...
>
>> Kerry Voted Against Body Armor for U.S. Troops!!.
>
> No, he didn't. There was never a vote on whether or not to fund body
> armor for the troops.
>
> Lying right-wing jackass.

Sorry it was there not as an individual bill but a part of a Funding Package
and Kerry admitted right after he voted against it that he had done just
that.

Also included was Hazard Duty Pay for all sent to Iraq and Afganastan as
well as funding to restock the armories with the munitions used up and to
put more attack Plane time in, more sortees. The Body armor and an Armor
Kit for the Hummers was to also be funded by that bill.

Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record. Just write
a letter to the Secretary of the Body and the votes are recorded by that
person. You can get his entire Dismal Voting Record.


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Clave

"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> Mr. N wrote:
> > "Walter Goldman" <viper426@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
> > news:m6c6901qlorge5rt8lhhfj572is69777sj@4ax.com...
> >
> >> Kerry Voted Against Body Armor for U.S. Troops!!.
> >
> > No, he didn't. There was never a vote on whether or not to fund body
> > armor for the troops.
> >
> > Lying right-wing jackass.
>
> Sorry it was there not as an individual bill but a part of a Funding Package
> and Kerry admitted right after he voted against it that he had done just
> that.
>
> Also included was Hazard Duty Pay for all sent to Iraq and Afganastan as
> well as funding to restock the armories with the munitions used up and to
> put more attack Plane time in, more sortees. The Body armor and an Armor
> Kit for the Hummers was to also be funded by that bill.
>
> Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record.

So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a rollback
in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.

Jim

Paul Mitchum

Clave <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote:

> "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
[..]
> > Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record.
>
> So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.

Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.

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That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Mr. N

"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...

> Sorry it was there not as an individual bill but a part of a Funding
Package

Show me in the budget package which line item was for the purchase of body
armor.

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Mr. N

"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...

> Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.

It does seem to be working out more and more that way.

Getting excited yet?

The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the election will
be over.

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Julian D.

On Sat, 1 May 2004 21:55:45 -0700, "Mr. N"
<seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
>news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m 0v3...
>
>> Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.
>
>It does seem to be working out more and more that way.
>
>Getting excited yet?
>
>The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the election will
>be over.


Yeah, we all heard similar claims about Bush vs. Bore during their
debates.
Bush won those. And now Bush has 4 years of presidential experience
behind him. Are you expecting or hoping Kerry will slam Bush about
'awol' or any other fringe issue you liberals whine about daily here?
That will show how petty Kerry is. The #1 issue is national security
and the Democrats have a history of not being strong on it.
Bush will declare that he will continue going after and pre-emptively
killing those who would hurt this country, and Kerry will spout his
nonsense about getting the bribery-loving UN involved or about how we
must get more law enforcement more involved concerning terrorists.
Bush will be well prepared to meet Kerry during the debates.
Don't underrate him as liberals constantly do.



JD






"Bush should make Kerry a deal. Bush will describe in detail EVERY move he made during
his National Guard service during Vietnam if Kerry exposes and describes in details the
atrocities he's admitted to committing in Vietnam."


http://hnn.us/articles/3552.html

Mr. N

"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
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> Yeah, we all heard similar claims about Bush vs. Bore during their
> debates.

In this case it's going to happen.

Bank on it.

> Bush won those.

Not according to the press - or the popular vote.

> And now Bush has 4 years of presidential experience behind him.

Bush lives in a vaccuum and is so egotistically full of himself he has
himself convinced he's really not a complete idiot.

Either way, I guess we'll see won't we?

Are you looking forward to some televised debates between Bush and Kerry?

I am.

> Are you expecting or hoping Kerry will slam Bush about
> 'awol' or any other fringe issue you liberals whine about daily here?

Nope. I fully expect Kerry to be every bit as coherent, convincing, and
PRESIDENTIAL as I saw him being at his speech at Westminster.

The sooner the better.

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Clave

"Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
news:3c4a9093k0r1nprp7q489ho498igpiut5q@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 1 May 2004 21:55:45 -0700, "Mr. N"
> <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> >news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m 0v3...
> >
> >> Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.
> >
> >It does seem to be working out more and more that way.
> >
> >Getting excited yet?
> >
> >The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the election will
> >be over.
>
>
> Yeah, we all heard similar claims about Bush vs. Bore during their
> debates.
> Bush won those...

For sufficiently generous definitions of "won"...

Jim

Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman

Clave wrote:
> "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in
> message news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
>> Mr. N wrote:
>>> "Walter Goldman" <viper426@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
>>> news:m6c6901qlorge5rt8lhhfj572is69777sj@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>> Kerry Voted Against Body Armor for U.S. Troops!!.
>>>
>>> No, he didn't. There was never a vote on whether or not to fund
>>> body armor for the troops.
>>>
>>> Lying right-wing jackass.
>>
>> Sorry it was there not as an individual bill but a part of a Funding
>> Package and Kerry admitted right after he voted against it that he
>> had done just that.
>>
>> Also included was Hazard Duty Pay for all sent to Iraq and
>> Afganastan as well as funding to restock the armories with the
>> munitions used up and to put more attack Plane time in, more
>> sortees. The Body armor and an Armor Kit for the Hummers was to
>> also be funded by that bill.
>>
>> Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record.
>
> So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
>
> Jim

No that bill again if you check was introduced not by a Democrat, but by the
Committee on Veterans Affairs in the House. The Sponsor was in fact
Congressman Christopher Smith and along with several Republicans on the US
Armed Services Committee again in the House of Represtentives.

How do I know this, go to Congressman Smith (NJ- Republican) Congressional
page off the House index. The news items about the writing of the Bill, The
Commitees "Special meetings" on their holiday and weekend time instead of
with their families, and the sponsor list and the vote (by roster call taken
in the Senate and the House full vote. Funny Kerry is down as ABSENT on
the day of that Vote on the one that passed several months and well over 100
deaths later that could have been avoided,

It is a shame that one cannot legally sue a member of the House or Senate
for their actions in office. Kerry should be sued by the families of all
those that died for lack of those vests from the day he voted against that
first bill, the Law I am talking about that he is *Guilty* of is "Wrongful
Deaths" of over 100 Americans. He is a multi-Bilionare that cares nothing
for the Middle Class, he should be made to pay the life time expected middle
class income of every soldier in his expected earnings. That would make
him a pauper. And he deserves that and worse.

He consorts with Traitors as he like Benidict Arnold, once a hero is today a
TRAITOR!


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Clave

"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:GfudnQNlNfuM-gjdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> Clave wrote:
> > "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in
> > message news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> >> Mr. N wrote:
> >>> "Walter Goldman" <viper426@N0SPAM.C0M> wrote in message
> >>> news:m6c6901qlorge5rt8lhhfj572is69777sj@4ax.com...
> >>>
> >>>> Kerry Voted Against Body Armor for U.S. Troops!!.
> >>>
> >>> No, he didn't. There was never a vote on whether or not to fund
> >>> body armor for the troops.
> >>>
> >>> Lying right-wing jackass.
> >>
> >> Sorry it was there not as an individual bill but a part of a Funding
> >> Package and Kerry admitted right after he voted against it that he
> >> had done just that.
> >>
> >> Also included was Hazard Duty Pay for all sent to Iraq and
> >> Afganastan as well as funding to restock the armories with the
> >> munitions used up and to put more attack Plane time in, more
> >> sortees. The Body armor and an Armor Kit for the Hummers was to
> >> also be funded by that bill.
> >>
> >> Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record.
> >
> > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> > rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
> >
> > Jim
>
> No that bill again if you check was introduced not by a Democrat, but by the
> Committee on Veterans Affairs in the House...

I didn't say he introduced it.

Jim

Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman

Mr. N wrote:
> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
>
>> Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.
>
> It does seem to be working out more and more that way.
>
> Getting excited yet?
>
> The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the
> election will be over.

Yes Kerry will loose as there are a lot of facts there about him he has
hidden for a long time.

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Clave

"Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Mr. N wrote:
> > "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> > news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
> >
> >> Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.
> >
> > It does seem to be working out more and more that way.
> >
> > Getting excited yet?
> >
> > The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the
> > election will be over.
>
> Yes Kerry will loose as there are a lot of facts there about him he has
> hidden for a long time.

Gosh! Really? Like what?

Like taking his girlfriend across state lines for an abortion? Did he do LOTS
of cocaine? Did he skip out on military obligations?

Tell us all about it.

Jim

Paul Mitchum

Mr. N <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> news:1gd4j4p.vxd0lj1ep0kzyN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
>
> > Once again: Criticism of Kerry ends up demonstrating Bush's mistakes.
>
> It does seem to be working out more and more that way.
>
> Getting excited yet?

Well, the problem is that relying on the tactic of allowing everything
anti-Kerry to turn out bad for Bush has one major obstacle:
Self-deception on the part of those criticizing Kerry.

> The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the election
> will be over.

Again, there's that whole mythology about how Bush won against Gore,
which you see repeated again later in this very thread.

The problem here isn't that Kerry is better or worse than (or the same
as) Bush, it's that there are a lot of people who are fighting what they
believe to be a cultural war, and the only way to begin to win it is to
defend Bush unto their dying breath. The direction government swings is
only tangential to the larger goal of keeping alive a very specific and
particular myth about America.

Welcome to the culture wars, which can still be fought even with
Democrats in office; in fact, Democrats in office make it easier for the
culture warriors to rally the troops.

--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Cap'nTrVTh

"Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
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>

> So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
>
> Jim
>

Clave has no problem with John Kerry using the safety of our Troops in order
to extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.

What a mess...

-Cap

Paul Mitchum

Clave <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote:

> "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:GfudnQNlNfuM-gjdRVn-sA@comcast.com...
> > Clave wrote:
> > > "Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman" <matta00@comcast.net> wrote in
> > > message news:Q-udnSeQz-q7xQnd4p2dnA@comcast.com...
[..]
> > >> Kerry voted against that bill. It is a matter of Public Record.
> > >
> > > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> > > rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
> >
> > No that bill again if you check was introduced not by a Democrat, but by the
> > Committee on Veterans Affairs in the House...
>
> I didn't say he introduced it.

Wait a second... You mean Kerry *endorsed* a bill introduced by a
*Republican?* One which favored fiscal responsibility over the
continuation of tax breaks for rich people? A *Republican* bill
introduced as a counter to the one *Bush* favored, which apparently
received bi-partisan endorsement?

--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Mr. N

"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
news:1gd5yof.n0ax2z10dflraN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...

> Well, the problem is that relying on the tactic of allowing everything
> anti-Kerry to turn out bad for Bush has one major obstacle:
> Self-deception on the part of those criticizing Kerry.

I don't see that as an obstacle, but a strength. It's the obviousness of
the self-deception in those levying these criticisms that lend strength to
Kerry. Here I'm using "being critical" as referring to those who point to
his war record, voting record etc. to make false claims about his
credibility. We should ALL be "critical" of Kerry as we should be of any
leader we elect - that's what responsible citizens do and is part of the
accountability process.

> > The minute Kerry and Bush take the same stage in a debate, the election
> > will be over.
>
> Again, there's that whole mythology about how Bush won against Gore, which
you see repeated again later in this very thread.

That was before Gore found his voice - he soft-soaped those debates,
assuming that Bush wasn't as big a challenge as he turned out to be - not
because Bush was such an all-fired great speaker, but because so many people
were so interested in trying something new. I think there will be a very
different dynamic at work this time around.

> The problem here isn't that Kerry is better or worse than (or the same
> as) Bush, it's that there are a lot of people who are fighting what they
> believe to be a cultural war, and the only way to begin to win it is to
> defend Bush unto their dying breath.

I'm not disagreeing with you on that point at all, Paul. However, I would
opine that the folks entrenched in the "culture war" aspects of this
election - including folks like you and I - represent a minority of those
who will ultimately be voting in terms of our level of political awareness
and commitment to voicing and defending our views. The average citizen is
much more distant from the realities of politics, and much less "dug in" or
committed to a particular outcome than those of us who take the time to
become more invested in the process than just watching the occasional news
broadcast.

> Welcome to the culture wars, which can still be fought even with
> Democrats in office; in fact, Democrats in office make it easier for the
> culture warriors to rally the troops.

I'd say that depends on the Democrat. Had Bill Clinton not handed the
right-wing warriors such ammunition as Monica Lewinsky, would we be dealing
with all the "blowjob Bill" referents?

--
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man o' leisure

"Cap'nTrVTh" <The_shining_light_of_trVth@dealwithit.net> wrote in message
news:f8e265c55e2d937fe9152e5036d81163@news.teranew s.com...
|
| "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
| news:109as9lsde6eb12@corp.supernews.com...
| >
|
| > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
| > rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
| >
| > Jim
| >
|
| Clave has no problem with John Kerry using the safety of our Troops in
order
| to extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.
|

Bush threatened a veto if the bill include tax rollbacks. By your logic,
you have no problem with Bush using the safety of our Troops in order to
extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.

| What a mess...
|

Indeed.
| -Cap
|
|

Paul Mitchum

Cap'nTrVTh <The_shining_light_of_trVth@dealwithit.net> wrote:

> "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> news:109as9lsde6eb12@corp.supernews.com...
>
> > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> > rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
>
> Clave has no problem with John Kerry using the safety of our Troops in order
> to extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.

A 'petty, partisan, political agenda' that involves rolling back
unnecessary tax cuts in order to be able to *pay* for the things we
*buy?* So fiscal responsibility is Kerry's partisan agenda, according to
you. That sounds like a good plank to me.

--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Cap'nTrVTh

"Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
news:1gd60r1.hnbely1ii566wN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
> Cap'nTrVTh <The_shining_light_of_trVth@dealwithit.net> wrote:
>
> > "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> > news:109as9lsde6eb12@corp.supernews.com...
> >
> > > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by a
> > > rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
> >
> > Clave has no problem with John Kerry using the safety of our Troops in
order
> > to extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.
>
> A 'petty, partisan, political agenda' that involves rolling back
> unnecessary tax cuts in order to be able to *pay* for the things we
> *buy?* So fiscal responsibility is Kerry's partisan agenda, according to
> you. That sounds like a good plank to me.

It would....

What a mess.

Here Paul, take the Kerry Poll.
www.hawaii-politics.com/kerry.htm

Paul Mitchum

Mr. N <seattledemocracy@hotmail.com> wrote:

> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> news:1gd5yof.n0ax2z10dflraN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
[..]
> > Welcome to the culture wars, which can still be fought even with
> > Democrats in office; in fact, Democrats in office make it easier for the
> > culture warriors to rally the troops.
>
> I'd say that depends on the Democrat. Had Bill Clinton not handed the
> right-wing warriors such ammunition as Monica Lewinsky, would we be
> dealing with all the "blowjob Bill" referents?

We'd still be dealing with the 'Clinton-didnt-fight-terrorism' myth,
wouldn't we?

That's my point: The particulars don't matter. There's a mythological
America for these culture warriors to defend, even if the real one gets
destroyed in the process.

--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Paul Mitchum

Cap'nTrVTh <The_shining_light_of_trVth@dealwithit.net> wrote:

> "Paul Mitchum" <usenet@mile23.com.r3m0v3> wrote in message
> news:1gd60r1.hnbely1ii566wN%usenet@mile23.com.r3m0 v3...
> > Cap'nTrVTh <The_shining_light_of_trVth@dealwithit.net> wrote:
> > > "Clave" <ClaviusFairAndBalanced@cablespeed.com> wrote in message
> > > news:109as9lsde6eb12@corp.supernews.com...
> > >
> > > > So is the fact that he endorsed an almost identical bill, funded by
> > > > a rollback in Bush's tax cuts instead of deficit spending.
> > >
> > > Clave has no problem with John Kerry using the safety of our Troops in
> > > order to extend his petty, partisan, political agenda.
> >
> > A 'petty, partisan, political agenda' that involves rolling back
> > unnecessary tax cuts in order to be able to *pay* for the things we
> > *buy?* So fiscal responsibility is Kerry's partisan agenda, according to
> > you. That sounds like a good plank to me.
>
> It would....

Yeah. Fiscal responsibility's a good idea, don't you agree?

--
"Maybe the mothers of our nation should remind us
That we're sitting too close
To the television"

Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman

Mr. N wrote:
> "Julian D." <jules@ersatz.com> wrote in message
> news:3c4a9093k0r1nprp7q489ho498igpiut5q@4ax.com...
>
>> Yeah, we all heard similar claims about Bush vs. Bore during their
>> debates.
>
> In this case it's going to happen.
>
> Bank on it.
>
>> Bush won those.
>
> Not according to the press - or the popular vote.
>
>> And now Bush has 4 years of presidential experience behind him.
>
> Bush lives in a vaccuum and is so egotistically full of himself he has
> himself convinced he's really not a complete idiot.
>
> Either way, I guess we'll see won't we?
>
> Are you looking forward to some televised debates between Bush and
> Kerry?
>
> I am.
>
>> Are you expecting or hoping Kerry will slam Bush about
>> 'awol' or any other fringe issue you liberals whine about daily here?
>
> Nope. I fully expect Kerry to be every bit as coherent, convincing,
> and PRESIDENTIAL as I saw him being at his speech at Westminster.
>
> The sooner the better.

My bank will not take that as a possibility LOL

Bush will win again this time around.

He has the experience and according to one friend of mine that owns a
trucking firm that supplies new Construction sites mostly he needs to
triple the number of trucks and men and is working in his office 16 hours a
day, doing record business. He said the last upswing in his business that
was just half of that, was just after 9/11 with supplying trucks and drivers
to Ground Zero to cart away the rubble the one prior to that showed up with
a huge upswing in the economy as a whole and that sir is proof that
Republicans do what Democrats make empty promises about.


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