Cisco Routers

OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking our
web site was going down all the frickin' time.

Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the
internet.

Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest upgrades
their routers so we can always be a part of the free world again?
Pam

"Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in
news:nRySa.251$Ks2.19663@news.uswest.net:

> OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking
> our
> web site was going down all the frickin' time.
>
> Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the
> internet.
>
> Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest
> upgrades their routers so we can always be a part of the free world
> again? Pam
>

I don't know if this is what you are referring to, but there is a known
problem with IOS, which is the operating system for Cisco Routers. It been
a known issue for quite a while now, and one of the side effects is that
people can do denial of service attacks.

The latest reports:
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707...-blocked.shtml
http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-17.html
http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0718cisattacks.html
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/31825.html

The fix:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/..._security_advi
sory09186a00801a34c2.shtml

Let me know if you need more information. This is something that should be
patched soonest. I don't know what router you are using, but if you have
any Cisco router (even a 678) you should at least check it out.

--
~ kevin zollinger
kevin@mailsoap.com

Yes, I do believe that is the deal.
I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly
effecting my DSL service with Qwest.

I'm hoping they do the fix and my service won't be interupted all the time.

Pam

"kevin zollinger" <kevin@mailsoap.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93BE6FB587D0Akevinmailsoapcom@206.127.4.25 ...
> "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:nRySa.251$Ks2.19663@news.uswest.net:
>
> > OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking
> > our
> > web site was going down all the frickin' time.
> >
> > Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the
> > internet.
> >
> > Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest
> > upgrades their routers so we can always be a part of the free world
> > again? Pam
> >
>
> I don't know if this is what you are referring to, but there is a known
> problem with IOS, which is the operating system for Cisco Routers. It been
> a known issue for quite a while now, and one of the side effects is that
> people can do denial of service attacks.
>
> The latest reports:
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707...-blocked.shtml
> http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-17.html
> http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0718cisattacks.html
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/31825.html
>
> The fix:
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/..._security_advi
> sory09186a00801a34c2.shtml
>
> Let me know if you need more information. This is something that should be
> patched soonest. I don't know what router you are using, but if you have
> any Cisco router (even a 678) you should at least check it out.
>
> --
> ~ kevin zollinger
> kevin@mailsoap.com

"Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in
news:VAASa.955$N82.55931@news.uswest.net:

> Yes, I do believe that is the deal.
> I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly
> effecting my DSL service with Qwest.

>

What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are
hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same problem,
and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses
Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation.

Are you co-located/virtual hosted or do you run a server from your
location?

--
~ kevin zollinger
kevin@mailsoap.com

Oh bummer.
So, you think my own server in my office and my Qwest router is effected
itself? I assumed that it was ISP stuff only, sort of a packet dealy. I'm
using Win NT on my server for my office computers. And yeah, Cisco 678 is
my router to connect to the internet.

I dread the thought of having to live through another qwest upgrade for my
router.

Pam

"kevin zollinger" <kevin@mailsoap.com> wrote in message
news:Xns93BE82A936A5Akevinmailsoapcom@206.127.4.25 ...
> "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:VAASa.955$N82.55931@news.uswest.net:
>
> > Yes, I do believe that is the deal.
> > I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly
> > effecting my DSL service with Qwest.

> >
>
> What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
> Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are
> hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same
problem,
> and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses
> Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation.
>
> Are you co-located/virtual hosted or do you run a server from your
> location?
>
> --
> ~ kevin zollinger
> kevin@mailsoap.com

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:50:57 -0500, kevin zollinger wrote:

> "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in
> news:VAASa.955$N82.55931@news.uswest.net:
>
>> Yes, I do believe that is the deal.
>> I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly
>> effecting my DSL service with Qwest.

>>
>>
> What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
> Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are
> hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same
> problem, and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if
> Qwest uses Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all
> speculation.

Cisco 675/678 routers run CBOS, not IOS and are therefore not affected by
the recent exploits.

Pam, what you really need to do is contact your ISP and get them to assist
you in troubleshooting your connection. A few traceroutes should help to
determine whether the problem is with your DSL connection or somewhere
further down the line.

-mp

kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes:

>What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
>Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are
>hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same problem,
>and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses
>Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation.

The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory.
--
Pneumatic tubes are killing the Internet.

Pete Ashdown pashdown@xmission.com ICQ:5717723 Salt Lake City, Utah
XMission Internet Access - http://www.xmission.com - Voice: 801 539 0852

Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote in
news:bffb8d$tvm$1@terabinaries.xmission.com:

> kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes:
>
>>What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
>>Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there
>>are hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same
>>problem, and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if
>>Qwest uses Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's
>>all speculation.
>
> The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory.

I'd forgotton that. My partner (who does all the actual cisco work)
reminded me of that as well. Of course we also don't know where the web
site in question is being hosted, so that question might very well be moot.

--
~ kevin zollinger
kevin@mailsoap.com

Thanks for all you guys who educated me on this operating system.

Ahhh, now I get to sit here and blame everyone else.

I like that.
heheeee

Anyway, the web site is hosted by a datacenter in New Jersey somewhere.
They upgraded their router before all hell broke loose.

My inability to get to my web site (in theory) is because of packet loss on
the way. My ISP is Qwest DSL. They went down for 1-1/2 hours on either
Friday or Saturday and I'm assuming at this point that they were upgrading
their IOS.

So far, no more problems for me.

I'm hoping that my little crisis is
over until the next hacking.......
Pam

"Pete Ashdown" <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote in message
news:bffb8d$tvm$1@terabinaries.xmission.com...
> kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes:
>
> >What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an
> >Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are
> >hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same
problem,
> >and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses
> >Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation.
>
> The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory.
> --
> Pneumatic tubes are killing the Internet.
>
> Pete Ashdown pashdown@xmission.com ICQ:5717723 Salt Lake City,
Utah
> XMission Internet Access - http://www.xmission.com - Voice: 801 539
0852

	#1
Pam	Cisco Routers OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking our web site was going down all the frickin' time. Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the internet. Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest upgrades their routers so we can always be a part of the free world again? Pam

	#2
kevin zollinger	Re: Cisco Routers "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in news:nRySa.251$Ks2.19663@news.uswest.net: > OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking > our > web site was going down all the frickin' time. > > Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the > internet. > > Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest > upgrades their routers so we can always be a part of the free world > again? Pam > I don't know if this is what you are referring to, but there is a known problem with IOS, which is the operating system for Cisco Routers. It been a known issue for quite a while now, and one of the side effects is that people can do denial of service attacks. The latest reports: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707...-blocked.shtml http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-17.html http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0718cisattacks.html http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/31825.html The fix: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/..._security_advi sory09186a00801a34c2.shtml Let me know if you need more information. This is something that should be patched soonest. I don't know what router you are using, but if you have any Cisco router (even a 678) you should at least check it out. -- ~ kevin zollinger kevin@mailsoap.com

	#3
Pam	Re: Cisco Routers Yes, I do believe that is the deal. I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly effecting my DSL service with Qwest. I'm hoping they do the fix and my service won't be interupted all the time. Pam "kevin zollinger" <kevin@mailsoap.com> wrote in message news:Xns93BE6FB587D0Akevinmailsoapcom@206.127.4.25 ... > "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in > news:nRySa.251$Ks2.19663@news.uswest.net: > > > OK, we've been going waky in here running our dot.com and thinking > > our > > web site was going down all the frickin' time. > > > > Now, the gen mgr discovers that it is a router problem all over the > > internet. > > > > Does anyone have any info on how long its going to be before Qwest > > upgrades their routers so we can always be a part of the free world > > again? Pam > > > > I don't know if this is what you are referring to, but there is a known > problem with IOS, which is the operating system for Cisco Routers. It been > a known issue for quite a while now, and one of the side effects is that > people can do denial of service attacks. > > The latest reports: > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707...-blocked.shtml > http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2003-17.html > http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2003/0718cisattacks.html > http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/55/31825.html > > The fix: > http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/..._security_advi > sory09186a00801a34c2.shtml > > Let me know if you need more information. This is something that should be > patched soonest. I don't know what router you are using, but if you have > any Cisco router (even a 678) you should at least check it out. > > -- > ~ kevin zollinger > kevin@mailsoap.com

	#5
Pam	Re: Cisco Routers Oh bummer. So, you think my own server in my office and my Qwest router is effected itself? I assumed that it was ISP stuff only, sort of a packet dealy. I'm using Win NT on my server for my office computers. And yeah, Cisco 678 is my router to connect to the internet. I dread the thought of having to live through another qwest upgrade for my router. Pam "kevin zollinger" <kevin@mailsoap.com> wrote in message news:Xns93BE82A936A5Akevinmailsoapcom@206.127.4.25 ... > "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in > news:VAASa.955$N82.55931@news.uswest.net: > > > Yes, I do believe that is the deal. > > I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly > > effecting my DSL service with Qwest. > > > > What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an > Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are > hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same problem, > and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses > Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation. > > Are you co-located/virtual hosted or do you run a server from your > location? > > -- > ~ kevin zollinger > kevin@mailsoap.com

	#6
Myke Place	Re: Cisco Routers On Sun, 20 Jul 2003 13:50:57 -0500, kevin zollinger wrote: > "Pam" <dontmailhere@invalid.com> wrote in > news:VAASa.955$N82.55931@news.uswest.net: > >> Yes, I do believe that is the deal. >> I doubt this has anything to do with my DSL router, but it is strongly >> effecting my DSL service with Qwest. >> >> > What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an > Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are > hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same > problem, and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if > Qwest uses Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all > speculation. Cisco 675/678 routers run CBOS, not IOS and are therefore not affected by the recent exploits. Pam, what you really need to do is contact your ISP and get them to assist you in troubleshooting your connection. A few traceroutes should help to determine whether the problem is with your DSL connection or somewhere further down the line. -mp

	#7
Pete Ashdown	Re: Cisco Routers kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes: >What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an >Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are >hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same problem, >and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses >Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation. The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory. -- Pneumatic tubes are killing the Internet. Pete Ashdown pashdown@xmission.com ICQ:5717723 Salt Lake City, Utah XMission Internet Access - http://www.xmission.com - Voice: 801 539 0852

	#8
kevin zollinger	Re: Cisco Routers Pete Ashdown <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote in news:bffb8d$tvm$1@terabinaries.xmission.com: > kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes: > >>What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an >>Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there >>are hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same >>problem, and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if >>Qwest uses Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's >>all speculation. > > The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory. I'd forgotton that. My partner (who does all the actual cisco work) reminded me of that as well. Of course we also don't know where the web site in question is being hosted, so that question might very well be moot. -- ~ kevin zollinger kevin@mailsoap.com

	#9
Pam	Re: Cisco Routers Thanks for all you guys who educated me on this operating system. Ahhh, now I get to sit here and blame everyone else. I like that. heheeee Anyway, the web site is hosted by a datacenter in New Jersey somewhere. They upgraded their router before all hell broke loose. My inability to get to my web site (in theory) is because of packet loss on the way. My ISP is Qwest DSL. They went down for 1-1/2 hours on either Friday or Saturday and I'm assuming at this point that they were upgrading their IOS. So far, no more problems for me. I'm hoping that my little crisis is over until the next hacking....... Pam "Pete Ashdown" <pashdown@xmission.com> wrote in message news:bffb8d$tvm$1@terabinaries.xmission.com... > kevin zollinger <kevin@mailsoap.com> writes: > > >What router are you using? If you are on Qwest then you could have an > >Actiontech or a Cisco 675/678. If it is the Qwest router then there are > >hundreds and thousands of other customers that are having the same problem, > >and I hope that Qwest would fix it ASAP. I don't even know if Qwest uses > >Cisco for their internal networks, so it this point it's all speculation. > > The 675/678 does not run IOS and is not affected by this advisory. > -- > Pneumatic tubes are killing the Internet. > > Pete Ashdown pashdown@xmission.com ICQ:5717723 Salt Lake City, Utah > XMission Internet Access - http://www.xmission.com - Voice: 801 539 0852