Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA

I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.

Regards

Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

Hmm...

Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim?

Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just
like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured,
I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates.
Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here.

OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is
for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote
from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up
guy, so do you really believe him?

This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get
better information there

On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote:
> I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
> member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
> is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
> everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
> Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
> when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
> costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
> the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
> increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
> OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
> Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
> I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

On 11 Apr, 12:18, "Dave" <dive...@warpmail.net> wrote:
> Hmm...
>
> Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim?
>
> Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just
> like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured,
> I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates.
> Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here.
>
> OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is
> for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote
> from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up
> guy, so do you really believe him?
>
> This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get
> better information there
>
> On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
> > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
> > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
> > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
> > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
> > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
> > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
> > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
> > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
> > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
> > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
> > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.
>
> > Regards
>
> > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an
accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However
I would not have put myself in a dangerous position.

Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident
because he should not have been where he was.

With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what
you are talking about.

Regards

Paul D.

> The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger.
snip
> Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident
> because he should not have been where he was.

I don't know the facts here, so was commenting on the principle. If
you have the facts, do share them, but let us know your source - were
you there? What did he did to put himself in a place of danger (e.g
was he on the runway? crossing after landing? Some might argue
jumping out of a plane puts you in a place of danger).

> With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what
> you are talking about.

Just saying it's easy to jump to opinions and conclusions after
listening to someone spout off in the canteen/hanger/manifest/pub.
And some of them have been known to exaggerate, or be economical with
the truth. Facts hold more water than hearsay.

On 11 Apr 2007 06:17:45 -0700, "PD" <paul@elmwoods.com> wrote:

> The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an
> accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However
> I would not have put myself in a dangerous position.
>
> Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident
> because he should not have been where he was.

What was the nature of this "accident"? How was he injured? What costs
were incurred as a result?

Please tell the whole story as you understand it, as some of us
haven't yet heard of it.

In article <1176297465.803334.164670@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups .com>, PD
<paul@elmwoods.com> writes
>On 11 Apr, 12:18, "Dave" <dive...@warpmail.net> wrote:
>> Hmm...
>>
>> Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim?
>>
>> Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just
>> like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured,
>> I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates.
>> Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here.
>>
>> OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is
>> for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote
>> from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up
>> guy, so do you really believe him?
>>
>> This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get
>> better information there
>>
>> On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
>> > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
>> > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
>> > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
>> > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
>> > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
>> > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
>> > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
>> > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
>> > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
>> > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
>> > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.
>>
>> > Regards
>>
>> > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
>The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an
>accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However
>I would not have put myself in a dangerous position.
>
>Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident
>because he should not have been where he was.
>
>With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what
>you are talking about.
>
>Regards
>
>Paul D.
>

You really have no idea what you're talking about do you?

Go back to your source and ask him/her to substantiate your claims.

Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.theparachutecentre.com
The Parachute Centre
Tilstock Airfield
Whitchurch
Shropshire SY13 2HA
UK

+44 1948 841111

On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote:
> I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
> member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
> is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
> everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
> Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
> when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
> costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
> the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
> increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
> OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
> Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
> I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

Since the person in question is unable to skydive anymore, I suspect
that he is no longer a member of the BPA.

just to clarify things . . .

i dont know who Paul D (Concerned BPA member) is maybe you will let us know
? ? ?

But it is definately not me Paul Dorward just so you know . . .

and another thing if i was in same position as Simon i would want 10
million!!!

All the best

Paul Dorward

<craig@poxon.org> wrote in message
news:1176395671.892807.79030@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote:
> I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to
> member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It
> is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and
> everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel.
> Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance
> when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member
> costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in
> the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the
> increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only.
> OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR.
> Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity.
> I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

Since the person in question is unable to skydive anymore, I suspect
that he is no longer a member of the BPA.

Think the payout is £400,000.

Not bad for a claim where the person was responsible for their own accident,
but no compensation for the alledged flaccid status he now finds himself in.

	#1
PD	Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. Regards Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

	#2
Dave	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA Hmm... Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim? Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured, I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates. Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here. OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up guy, so do you really believe him? This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get better information there On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote: > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. > > Regards > > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)

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PD	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA On 11 Apr, 12:18, "Dave" <dive...@warpmail.net> wrote: > Hmm... > > Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim? > > Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just > like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured, > I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates. > Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here. > > OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is > for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote > from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up > guy, so do you really believe him? > > This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get > better information there > > On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote: > > > > > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to > > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It > > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and > > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. > > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance > > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member > > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in > > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the > > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. > > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. > > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. > > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. > > > Regards > > > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However I would not have put myself in a dangerous position. Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident because he should not have been where he was. With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what you are talking about. Regards Paul D.

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Dave	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA > The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. snip > Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident > because he should not have been where he was. I don't know the facts here, so was commenting on the principle. If you have the facts, do share them, but let us know your source - were you there? What did he did to put himself in a place of danger (e.g was he on the runway? crossing after landing? Some might argue jumping out of a plane puts you in a place of danger). > With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what > you are talking about. Just saying it's easy to jump to opinions and conclusions after listening to someone spout off in the canteen/hanger/manifest/pub. And some of them have been known to exaggerate, or be economical with the truth. Facts hold more water than hearsay.

	#5
luugnutes	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA On 11 Apr 2007 06:17:45 -0700, "PD" <paul@elmwoods.com> wrote: > The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an > accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However > I would not have put myself in a dangerous position. > > Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident > because he should not have been where he was. What was the nature of this "accident"? How was he injured? What costs were incurred as a result? Please tell the whole story as you understand it, as some of us haven't yet heard of it.

	#6
Colin Fitzmaurice	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA In article <1176297465.803334.164670@d57g2000hsg.googlegroups .com>, PD <paul@elmwoods.com> writes >On 11 Apr, 12:18, "Dave" <dive...@warpmail.net> wrote: >> Hmm... >> >> Did you ever think that he may have a valid claim? >> >> Did you ever think that this is what insurance cover is for? Just >> like if you crash your car while giving me a lift, and I'm injured, >> I'd claim against your insurance, and we'd probably still be mates. >> Whatever about the amounts, there is a principle at work here. >> >> OK, so the figure seems very high, but I wonder what your source is >> for the figures. At best it's hearsay, and it sounds like a quote >> from a dodgy used car dealer - you're probably a sincere, stand-up >> guy, so do you really believe him? >> >> This has already been discussed on UKskydiver.com, so you may get >> better information there >> >> On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to >> > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It >> > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and >> > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. >> > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance >> > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member >> > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in >> > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the >> > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. >> > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. >> > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. >> > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. >> >> > Regards >> >> > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member)- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > >The thing is he positioned himself in a place of danger. If I had an >accident in the car with you as a passenger then yes I agree. However >I would not have put myself in a dangerous position. > >Insurance is for accidents, this in my opinion was not an accident >because he should not have been where he was. > >With regards to the Used car salesman quote I do not understand what >you are talking about. > >Regards > >Paul D. > You really have no idea what you're talking about do you? Go back to your source and ask him/her to substantiate your claims. Colin Fitzmaurice http://www.theparachutecentre.com The Parachute Centre Tilstock Airfield Whitchurch Shropshire SY13 2HA UK +44 1948 841111

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craig@poxon.org	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote: > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. > > Regards > > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member) Since the person in question is unable to skydive anymore, I suspect that he is no longer a member of the BPA.

	#8
David Dorward	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA just to clarify things . . . i dont know who Paul D (Concerned BPA member) is maybe you will let us know ? ? ? But it is definately not me Paul Dorward just so you know . . . and another thing if i was in same position as Simon i would want 10 million!!! All the best Paul Dorward <craig@poxon.org> wrote in message news:1176395671.892807.79030@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... On Apr 11, 10:52 am, "PD" <p...@elmwoods.com> wrote: > I have just found out that Mr Airkix is fleecing the BPA member to > member insurance for £7.5 million. Is this to pay for the tunnel? It > is my opinion that he should be struck off the BPA membership and > everyone in the BPA should boycott his tunnel. > Is it any wonder that we are paying a fortune every year for insurance > when members are abusing our system. The added insurance and member > costs every year do not affect the people who already have millions in > the bank. As a joint member on a normal working class salary the > increase in premiums will make the sport for the elitest only. > OBVIOUSLY THIS £7.5 MILLION WILL INCREASE OUR PREMIUMS NEXT YEAR. > Why are we paying a man for his own stupidity. > I SAY AGAIN STRIKE HIM OFF THE BPA. > > Regards > > Paul D. (Concerned BPA Member) Since the person in question is unable to skydive anymore, I suspect that he is no longer a member of the BPA.

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FFFlailer	Re: Mr Airkix fleecing the BPA Think the payout is £400,000. Not bad for a claim where the person was responsible for their own accident, but no compensation for the alledged flaccid status he now finds himself in.