falling janice

Hi girls and boys

I have just heard from a reliable source in the BPA that an advanced
instructor is under investigation for breaching BPA Operations manual
on a tandem course, dont really have all the info yet , but it would
appear those high up in BPA are trying to sweep this under the carpet.
The instuctor under investigation is one from Scotland , I dont have
his name yet , but I will keep you posted when I do

love and kisses janice xx

Paul Moore

and what is the point of this...........??


"falling janice" <janice233@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1157796251.029079.172030@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi girls and boys
>
> I have just heard from a reliable source in the BPA that an advanced
> instructor is under investigation for breaching BPA Operations manual
> on a tandem course, dont really have all the info yet , but it would
> appear those high up in BPA are trying to sweep this under the carpet.
> The instuctor under investigation is one from Scotland , I dont have
> his name yet , but I will keep you posted when I do
>
> love and kisses janice xx
>

Mick Cooper

"Paul Moore" <PaulMoore@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:edv7a0$h5q$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> and what is the point of this...........??
>
>
exactly!

its not as if we all didn't know that this sort of thing has been going on
for years.

its old news janice - save your tittle tattle for the DZ bar

Jim White

> advanced instructor

> from Scotland

Not me, so that narrows it down a bit ( like around 50% )

falling janice

Well that remark is a bit rude, I am truely hurt

I personally think its terrible for the other people who turned up to
do the course and because they didnt have the paperwork were turned
away , but a blind eye was turned towards these people, as I said , I
dont know the peoples names or the full story yet, but I was sick
looking at the discussion about max tandem weight, so thought I would
move the forum onto a new topic.

Btw I dont drink, my last partner was an abusive alcoholic.

love and kisses janice xx

Mick Cooper wrote:

> "Paul Moore" <PaulMoore@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:edv7a0$h5q$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> > and what is the point of this...........??
> >
> >
> exactly!
>
> its not as if we all didn't know that this sort of thing has been going on
> for years.
>
> its old news janice - save your tittle tattle for the DZ bar

Jim White

falling janice wrote:
> Well that remark is a bit rude, I am truely hurt

Was that for me ?

Paul Moore

Jim.......you????????.....narrow???????????? you've never been 'narrow'
Jim!!

;-))


"Jim White" <jcwhite526@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>> advanced instructor
>
>> from Scotland
>
> Not me, so that narrows it down a bit ( like around 50% )
>

Jim White

Cheers Paul .................. bloody squadies

Jim White

didnt think you council chaps were allowed to read the " electronic
urinal " let alone post on it

;-)

Paul Moore

I have'nt been called a squaddie for years Jim - even if 30 years in the
cake on Thursday !!...........as for not reading the news
well,................I've never been much of a one for conformity either.
Sometimes living abroad this is the only way to keep up with whats going on!

regards to all at St A.


"Jim White" <jcwhite526@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1157991191.917377.294840@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>
> didnt think you council chaps were allowed to read the " electronic
> urinal " let alone post on it
>
> ;-)
>

Pete Mac

falling janice wrote:
> but I was sick
> looking at the discussion about max tandem weight, so thought I would
> move the forum onto a new topic.


Sorry what was the prob about tan wt? Or do you mean tried of looking
at an old thread?

Pete Mac

falling janice

Are you hinting I have a large bottom???

A woman with a rounded figure has more to grip onto !!

love and kisses janice xx


Pete Mac wrote:

> falling janice wrote:
> > but I was sick
> > looking at the discussion about max tandem weight, so thought I would
> > move the forum onto a new topic.
>
>
> Sorry what was the prob about tan wt? Or do you mean tried of looking
> at an old thread?
>
> Pete Mac

Jim White

falling janice wrote:
> perhaps I didn't make the alligation clear.
>
> The advanced instructor was not doing the course , he helped a tandem
> BI get on his course by forgeing a BPA form 116 medical ( oops ).
>
> I think the person involved is also meant to be on the BPA council
> aswell , hmmmm????
>
> Got to ask yourself , how did he manage to do the course without a
> valid medical ?
>
> Anyway I expect it will be swept under the BPA carpet as there are many
> people involved and there would be many other peoples heads on the line
> as the course took place in Northern Ireland.
>
> love and kisses janice xx
>
>

Hi Janice ( if thats your real name)

Your not helping yourself by posting on here as council refer to this
newsgroup as the "electronic urinal wall" and most claim not to read it
( Im sure they do though )

You ( or your informant ) have made a serious alligation and if
you/they feel that strongly then you/they should put it in writing.
Sent it to the council and it should then be investigated. Be aware
though if the chairman does not like what he reads then it will go no
further. BPA mail is sencored by the chairman, I know it happened to
me. Therefore you may want to send a copy to the CAA which might get
someones attention.

As for sweeping things under the BPA carpet. Well I have noticed it has
become a bit lumpy over the years.

Jim ( real name )

falling janice

hi james xx

I get your drift but I am not here to flame anybody, I am just trying
to bring something to light and hopefully stop this from being swept
under the lumpy BPA carpet.

I personally dont care About what goes on north of the border or even
manchester for that matter,as it doesnt stop me from jumping. however
theres no smoke without fire.

I posted here to get peoples attention and get tounges wagging , it
seems I was wrong , perhaps the CAA will listen.

As for sending it in writing. perhaps I will , but whats the point if
it doesnt get past the chairman

I wonder what hitchen would say if he received a letter ?.

love and kisses janice xx ( real name )



Jim White wrote:

> falling janice wrote:
> > perhaps I didn't make the alligation clear.
> >
> > The advanced instructor was not doing the course , he helped a tandem
> > BI get on his course by forgeing a BPA form 116 medical ( oops ).
> >
> > I think the person involved is also meant to be on the BPA council
> > aswell , hmmmm????
> >
> > Got to ask yourself , how did he manage to do the course without a
> > valid medical ?
> >
> > Anyway I expect it will be swept under the BPA carpet as there are many
> > people involved and there would be many other peoples heads on the line
> > as the course took place in Northern Ireland.
> >
> > love and kisses janice xx
> >
> >
>
> Hi Janice ( if thats your real name)
>
> Your not helping yourself by posting on here as council refer to this
> newsgroup as the "electronic urinal wall" and most claim not to read it
> ( Im sure they do though )
>
> You ( or your informant ) have made a serious alligation and if
> you/they feel that strongly then you/they should put it in writing.
> Sent it to the council and it should then be investigated. Be aware
> though if the chairman does not like what he reads then it will go no
> further. BPA mail is sencored by the chairman, I know it happened to
> me. Therefore you may want to send a copy to the CAA which might get
> someones attention.
>
> As for sweeping things under the BPA carpet. Well I have noticed it has
> become a bit lumpy over the years.
>
> Jim ( real name )

Jim White

> As for sending it in writing. perhaps I will , but whats the point if
> it doesnt get past the chairman
>

Then exclude him and send it to everyone else on council or get your
CCI to bring it STC thats what its there for.
Jim

Mick Cooper

"Jim White" <jcwhite526@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158083396.810735.280740@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
>> As for sending it in writing. perhaps I will , but whats the point if
>> it doesnt get past the chairman
>>
>
> Then exclude him and send it to everyone else on council or get your
> CCI to bring it STC thats what its there for.
> Jim
>

Jim

whats the point?

The jobs for the boys brigade keep everything in house.

Its a bit like the qualifying jumps rule and drills routine

fine unless you happen to have connections to the boys at the top - if you
do - you can take a few years out and then go straight back into doing
tandems

because you have mates that will sign you up.

its the way the world turns

Mick

Geordie Page

Jim you know I read and also post on here
"Jim White" <jcwhite526@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1158054008.345994.197000@i3g2000cwc.googlegro ups.com...
>
> falling janice wrote:
>> perhaps I didn't make the alligation clear.
>>
>> The advanced instructor was not doing the course , he helped a tandem
>> BI get on his course by forgeing a BPA form 116 medical ( oops ).
>>
>> I think the person involved is also meant to be on the BPA council
>> aswell , hmmmm????
>>
>> Got to ask yourself , how did he manage to do the course without a
>> valid medical ?
>>
>> Anyway I expect it will be swept under the BPA carpet as there are many
>> people involved and there would be many other peoples heads on the line
>> as the course took place in Northern Ireland.
>>
>> love and kisses janice xx
>>
>>
>
> Hi Janice ( if thats your real name)
>
> Your not helping yourself by posting on here as council refer to this
> newsgroup as the "electronic urinal wall" and most claim not to read it
> ( Im sure they do though )
>
> You ( or your informant ) have made a serious alligation and if
> you/they feel that strongly then you/they should put it in writing.
> Sent it to the council and it should then be investigated. Be aware
> though if the chairman does not like what he reads then it will go no
> further. BPA mail is sencored by the chairman, I know it happened to
> me. Therefore you may want to send a copy to the CAA which might get
> someones attention.
>
> As for sweeping things under the BPA carpet. Well I have noticed it has
> become a bit lumpy over the years.
>
> Jim ( real name )
>

Kevin

"Paul Moore" <PaulMoore@t-online.de> wrote in message
news:edv7a0$h5q$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> and what is the point of this...........??
>
It's a troll, from someone with a bit too much time on their hands. Very
similar to a posting some time ago from "Blue Sky Sue",

Kev




> "falling janice" <janice233@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1157796251.029079.172030@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>> Hi girls and boys
>>
>> I have just heard from a reliable source in the BPA that an advanced
>> instructor is under investigation for breaching BPA Operations manual
>> on a tandem course, dont really have all the info yet , but it would
>> appear those high up in BPA are trying to sweep this under the carpet.
>> The instuctor under investigation is one from Scotland , I dont have
>> his name yet , but I will keep you posted when I do
>>
>> love and kisses janice xx
>>
>
>

lugnutes

On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 21:54:47 +0100, "Kevin" <kevin@kev.in> wrote:

> > and what is the point of this...........??
> >
> It's a troll, from someone with a bit too much time on their hands. Very
> similar to a posting some time ago from "Blue Sky Sue",

She must be using Nigel Holland's computer too then ...

falling janice

well kevin

If thats the best you can add to this discussion , its better you shut
up and leave.

Theres an old saying and it goes like this " it is better to be quiet
and be thought a fool , than open your mouth and be proved one"

I think that phrase was made just for you !

love and kisses janice xx

Kevin wrote:
> "Paul Moore" <PaulMoore@t-online.de> wrote in message
> news:edv7a0$h5q$01$1@news.t-online.com...
> > and what is the point of this...........??
> >
> It's a troll, from someone with a bit too much time on their hands. Very
> similar to a posting some time ago from "Blue Sky Sue",
>
> Kev
>
>
>
>
> > "falling janice" <janice233@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1157796251.029079.172030@p79g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> >> Hi girls and boys
> >>
> >> I have just heard from a reliable source in the BPA that an advanced
> >> instructor is under investigation for breaching BPA Operations manual
> >> on a tandem course, dont really have all the info yet , but it would
> >> appear those high up in BPA are trying to sweep this under the carpet.
> >> The instuctor under investigation is one from Scotland , I dont have
> >> his name yet , but I will keep you posted when I do
> >>
> >> love and kisses janice xx
> >>
> >
> >

Andy

Hey,I'm 40 now!! Tell me who the guy that'll sort me a medical out for a
"wink, Wink", "say no more" is. A bung has to be cheaper than getting one
done properly eh? I hope it's the same one that I bought my ratings from, I
must be due some "bulk" discount by now??

Andy

Paul Moore

I always knew you were a dodgy git Parkin................ :-)


"Andy" <andy@skydivezone.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45073fc9$0$2690$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> Hey,I'm 40 now!! Tell me who the guy that'll sort me a medical out for a
> "wink, Wink", "say no more" is. A bung has to be cheaper than getting one
> done properly eh? I hope it's the same one that I bought my ratings from,
> I must be due some "bulk" discount by now??
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>

falling janice

Hmmm !!!

Tougne and cheek come to mind along with a few verbal insults, I could
always throw them your way but I will take it in the manor it was
intended you cheeky little monkey

btw it was an avaition medical we are talking about not a self
declaration

love and kisses janice xx



Andy wrote:

> Hey,I'm 40 now!! Tell me who the guy that'll sort me a medical out for a
> "wink, Wink", "say no more" is. A bung has to be cheaper than getting one
> done properly eh? I hope it's the same one that I bought my ratings from, I
> must be due some "bulk" discount by now??
>
> Andy

Andy

Janice, I'm a bit lost here. So you've stuck your head up and made an
allegation, not mentioned their name, your name or the name of the person
that told you, or indeed why you are telling us all. I'm not sure what you
wanted to gain from this. You obviously know that you won't get any respect
from anyone if you won't put you name to your post. I can understand that
the reason for this might be that you'll have made an enemy of whoever it is
that you are grassing but, why didn't you just grass them to the BPA instead
of telling a load of us that couldn't care less? So far the whole thing is a
made up story started by one person with a false name and no other names.
Were you just out to cause a bit of trouble? Were you on the course and
failed? Is the person a competitor, did he shag your missus?
So what's the score mate.

Btw, none of us think you are a chick so I'd give up on that one.

Anyway this has reminded me that I'm after my advanced rating. I'm willing
to pay up to 200 quid for it if any of you advanced instructors that are on
the take are interested.

Andy

falling janice

hi andy

your reply is a bit agressive in its tone

I am not here to piss you off , but if it has then go elsewhere for an
argument, I dont need to start flame wars.

I tell you what , I have at least got toungnes wagging and if you
havent worked out who it is you must not know the advanced instructors
in Scotland , there isn't that many really.

If you are really stuck , ask trudy from the BPA who was on the course
in northern Ireland from Scotland. Your own nose and intelligence
should get you the correct answer.

I just want to see justice for those people who were sent away from the
course because they didnt have the correct paper work(cough! cough!) ,
but there was one person who slipped through because of a forged bpa
116 form, which they knew it was forged , so they cant say " I didnt
know ".I dont have anything against them personally.

Perhaps it is a bit petty and I should have had the correct paper work
but I was one of the BI's who was turned away , travel all the way to
NI to be sent home and it is also very upsetting to then find out that
another person was given preferential treatment and slipped through,
not to mention the jumps must have all beeen illegal and had no BPA
insurance cover.

But it is not in my intrests to give my name as hitchen and co would
mark me for the rest of my skydiving days and I still need to sit my
final.

just another lump under the BPA carpet as james would put it.and as
someone else put it , whats the point, if the boys all back each other
up, talk about a conspiricy theory. the BPA needs to be transparent on
this type of issue !!

This topic has obviously stirred something in you or why else would you
reply to the thread, btw Andy I promise you this, it is no made up
story, it is a fact and if any STC person wants to ask about it at the
next meeting feel free and remember to ask for the BPA form 116 from
every person on the Tandem course, back dated to coincide with the
course in Northern Ireland, you will find one forged or even lost.


love and kisses janice xx


Andy wrote:

> Janice, I'm a bit lost here. So you've stuck your head up and made an
> allegation, not mentioned their name, your name or the name of the person
> that told you, or indeed why you are telling us all. I'm not sure what you
> wanted to gain from this. You obviously know that you won't get any respect
> from anyone if you won't put you name to your post. I can understand that
> the reason for this might be that you'll have made an enemy of whoever it is
> that you are grassing but, why didn't you just grass them to the BPA instead
> of telling a load of us that couldn't care less? So far the whole thing is a
> made up story started by one person with a false name and no other names.
> Were you just out to cause a bit of trouble? Were you on the course and
> failed? Is the person a competitor, did he shag your missus?
> So what's the score mate.
>
> Btw, none of us think you are a chick so I'd give up on that one.
>
> Anyway this has reminded me that I'm after my advanced rating. I'm willing
> to pay up to 200 quid for it if any of you advanced instructors that are on
> the take are interested.
>
> Andy

Daviey Walker

falling janice wrote:
> Hmmm !!!
>
> Tougne and cheek come to mind along with a few verbal insults, I could
> always throw them your way but I will take it in the manor it was
> intended you cheeky little monkey
>
> btw it was an avaition medical we are talking about not a self
> declaration
>
> love and kisses janice xx
>
>

How does Nigel Holland feel about this issue? Considering your sharing
the same ip (195.93.21.134) surely you could ask him. Do you share a
house with him?

Does Nigel now want to be known as 'janice'?

Andy

> your reply is a bit agressive in its tone

Sorry you feel that way. It's not meant to be, all I've done is ask you some
honest questions??

> I am not here to piss you off , but if it has then go elsewhere for an
> argument, I dont need to start flame wars.

I think yuo've already pissed people off by mentioning stuff that ought to
be reported. Also I wouldn't bother to argue with someone who is too scared
to post their name, what would be the point?

> I tell you what , I have at least got toungnes wagging and if you
> havent worked out who it is you must not know the advanced instructors
> in Scotland , there isn't that many really.

2, or 3 isn't it? Correct me if I'm wrong.
>
> If you are really stuck , ask trudy from the BPA who was on the course
> in northern Ireland from Scotland. Your own nose and intelligence
> should get you the correct answer.

OK

> I just want to see justice for those people who were sent away from the
> course because they didnt have the correct paper work(cough! cough!) ,
> but there was one person who slipped through because of a forged bpa
> 116 form, which they knew it was forged , so they cant say " I didnt
> know ".I dont have anything against them personally.

OK mate, I'm with you on this one. But, if you want to see justice then why
don't you go throught he proper channels rather than gossiping about it
here. Your second post on this thread said that you didn't know the full
story or the names. It's always good the know the full story before you
start guessing or assuming. You then stated, in your first post that the BPa
were trying to cover it up, follewed by they will probably try to cover it
up, well which is it? You then stated that you only did it to get tongues
wagging (to start gossip). And finally that you hadn't bothered to submit
this complaint to the BPA because you assumed the John would bin it?
>
> Perhaps it is a bit petty and I should have had the correct paper work
> but I was one of the BI's who was turned away , travel all the way to
> NI to be sent home and it is also very upsetting to then find out that
> another person was given preferential treatment and slipped through,
> not to mention the jumps must have all beeen illegal and had no BPA
> insurance cover.

Well yes, yuo should hasve the correct paperwork. I guess that narrows it
down as to who you are. Unless 30 people got binned off the course?? I've
also noticed that you keep saying that it was all a cover up. If someone has
stamped and signed a med declaration then how would anyone know it to be
false??
>
> But it is not in my intrests to give my name as hitchen and co would
> mark me for the rest of my skydiving days and I still need to sit my
> final.

Don't think you need to give your name now do you. I'm sure it'll come out
sooner than you hoped for.
>
> just another lump under the BPA carpet as james would put it.and as
> someone else put it , whats the point, if the boys all back each other
> up, talk about a conspiricy theory. the BPA needs to be transparent on
> this type of issue !!

I agree completely mate. I would like to think that the BPA would take this
matter very seriously indeed. I'd be keen to hear from anyone that thinks
that they do actually cover things like this up??

> This topic has obviously stirred something in you or why else would you
> reply to the thread, btw Andy I promise you this, it is no made up
> story, it is a fact and if any STC person wants to ask about it at the
> next meeting feel free and remember to ask for the BPA form 116 from
> every person on the Tandem course, back dated to coincide with the
> course in Northern Ireland, you will find one forged or even lost.

Not really stirred anything in me mate but most people hate whiners. Had you
posted your findings here and done something about it as well then I'd have
a different opinion of you. But please read your posts and you'll see that
you've just come across as someone who is really bent out of shape about
this, done nothing about it, assumed that everyone in the BPA is a crook and
gone to great lengths to achieve what???? nothing really! At least if you'd
written to the BPA you could say that you had done so and that you'd been
told to f off or not replied to rather than assuming that John would ignore
the matter. Do you really know John that well that you can say he'd do this?

Had a little more thought gone into your protest and, had it been better
presented then I think you would have gained more support than you think.

Andy

> love and kisses janice xx
>
>
> Andy wrote:
>
>> Janice, I'm a bit lost here. So you've stuck your head up and made an
>> allegation, not mentioned their name, your name or the name of the person
>> that told you, or indeed why you are telling us all. I'm not sure what
>> you
>> wanted to gain from this. You obviously know that you won't get any
>> respect
>> from anyone if you won't put you name to your post. I can understand that
>> the reason for this might be that you'll have made an enemy of whoever it
>> is
>> that you are grassing but, why didn't you just grass them to the BPA
>> instead
>> of telling a load of us that couldn't care less? So far the whole thing
>> is a
>> made up story started by one person with a false name and no other names.
>> Were you just out to cause a bit of trouble? Were you on the course and
>> failed? Is the person a competitor, did he shag your missus?
>> So what's the score mate.
>>
>> Btw, none of us think you are a chick so I'd give up on that one.
>>
>> Anyway this has reminded me that I'm after my advanced rating. I'm
>> willing
>> to pay up to 200 quid for it if any of you advanced instructors that are
>> on
>> the take are interested.
>>
>> Andy
>

Alan Wilkinson

Advanced Instructors in Scotland? More than you think!

Bob Charters
Scotty Milne
John Horne
Jim White
Rob Noble-Nesbit
Alan Wilkinson
Karen Farr
Kieran Brady

PS who the f**k is Sue?

Back to the Sun, have fun y'all!!

falling janice

I will give you a hint , its not the first seven

I dont know sue either ????

love and kisses janice xx

Alan Wilkinson wrote:

> Advanced Instructors in Scotland? More than you think!
>
> Bob Charters
> Scotty Milne
> John Horne
> Jim White
> Rob Noble-Nesbit
> Alan Wilkinson
> Karen Farr
> Kieran Brady
>
> PS who the f**k is Sue?
>
> Back to the Sun, have fun y'all!!

Mick Cooper

"Alan Wilkinson" <Alan@skydivers.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1158330562.412291.286910@e3g2000cwe.googlegro ups.com...
> Advanced Instructors in Scotland? More than you think!
>
> Bob Charters
> Scotty Milne
> John Horne
> Jim White
> Rob Noble-Nesbit
> Alan Wilkinson
> Karen Farr
> Kieran Brady
>
> PS who the f**k is Sue?
>
> Back to the Sun, have fun y'all!!
>

shouldn't that have been

"Who the f*** is Alice?"

Eric Hall

Given that this allegation has been made, that is that Kieren Bradey used a
forged medical declaration, is the matter going to be investigated by STC.
If not, how does a BPA member such as myself ensure that it is?

How can STC investigate itself when it is made up of individuals that all
have a vested fiancial interest and are all mates with each other?

Geordie........you might like to help me out on this one.

Eric Hall


"Daviey Walker" <daviey.walker@virginREMOVE.network> wrote in message
news9bOg.1335$s4.621@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> falling janice wrote:
>> Hmmm !!!
>>
>> Tougne and cheek come to mind along with a few verbal insults, I could
>> always throw them your way but I will take it in the manor it was
>> intended you cheeky little monkey
>>
>> btw it was an avaition medical we are talking about not a self
>> declaration
>>
>> love and kisses janice xx
>>
>>
>
> How does Nigel Holland feel about this issue? Considering your sharing
> the same ip (195.93.21.134) surely you could ask him. Do you share a
> house with him?
>
> Does Nigel now want to be known as 'janice'?



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falling janice

hi , let me try and explain.

The accused did not personally use the forged medical ,he aided another
Tandem BI from his centre to either forge one, as they did not have a
valid BPA116 aviation medical or he personally forged one to get him
through the course.

So it could be argued that: he and the tandem BI both breached the BPA
operations manual

If the Tandem instructor , as thats what he is now in the eyes of the
BPA , now has a valid BPA form 116 and it has been back dated to the
date of the course , it has been gotten by ill gains.

I would even go as far as to say if the form has been done by the BPA
medical doctor and has been back dated to coincide with the tandem
course , he too, has also breached BPA operations manual ( I am not
saying the doctor has done this ), but what ever doctor has done this
has also breached there BMC rules aswell , so they could also be struck
off the medical register.

I am trying to pre-empt the damage limitation exercise he will try to
do to cover his ass.

As for him getting away with it , you should ask your CCI to bring this
up at the STC.
God knows how many people he has tried to get there ratings from, this
should be retribution for them

dont let it go,

love and kisses janice xx


Eric Hall wrote:

> Given that this allegation has been made, that is that Kieren Bradey used a
> forged medical declaration, is the matter going to be investigated by STC.
> If not, how does a BPA member such as myself ensure that it is?
>
> How can STC investigate itself when it is made up of individuals that all
> have a vested fiancial interest and are all mates with each other?
>
> Geordie........you might like to help me out on this one.
>
> Eric Hall
>
>
> "Daviey Walker" <daviey.walker@virginREMOVE.network> wrote in message
> news9bOg.1335$s4.621@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> > falling janice wrote:
> >> Hmmm !!!
> >>
> >> Tougne and cheek come to mind along with a few verbal insults, I could
> >> always throw them your way but I will take it in the manor it was
> >> intended you cheeky little monkey
> >>
> >> btw it was an avaition medical we are talking about not a self
> >> declaration
> >>
> >> love and kisses janice xx
> >>
> >>
> >
> > How does Nigel Holland feel about this issue? Considering your sharing
> > the same ip (195.93.21.134) surely you could ask him. Do you share a
> > house with him?
> >
> > Does Nigel now want to be known as 'janice'?
>
>
>
> --
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Andy

Nige, you still seem to miss the point. Read your last post and you'll see
that it is all "ifs, maybe" and "might haves", see below.

> The accused did not personally use the forged medical ,he aided another
> Tandem BI from his centre to either forge one, as they did not have a
> valid BPA116 aviation medical or he personally forged one to get him
> through the course.

Well......which is it. You started the ball rolling mate but yuo don't seem
sure of the ACTUAL facts. This would be important in the event that the BPA
wished to act on YOUR infomation.

> So it could be argued that: he and the tandem BI both breached the BPA
> operations manual

OK

> If the Tandem instructor , as thats what he is now in the eyes of the
> BPA , now has a valid BPA form 116 and it has been back dated to the
> date of the course , it has been gotten by ill gains.

What do you mean "If"???? Don't you know? I thought you had this from "the
horses mouth".

> I would even go as far as to say if the form has been done by the BPA
> medical doctor and has been back dated to coincide with the tandem
> course , he too, has also breached BPA operations manual ( I am not
> saying the doctor has done this ), but what ever doctor has done this
> has also breached there BMC rules aswell , so they could also be struck
> off the medical register.

Again, it's all guess work, or at least it 's written that way.

> I am trying to pre-empt the damage limitation exercise he will try to
> do to cover his ass.

I'm not sure that anyone could cover their arse if they really have done
something so stupid as you claim that they have.

> As for him getting away with it , you should ask your CCI to bring this
> up at the STC.
> God knows how many people he has tried to get there ratings from, this
> should be retribution for them

So why don't you follow it up. Report it properly. I hear that John would
like nothing more than to hear form you with regards to your allegations.

I'm lost as to why it has taken you a week to actually name the person you
accuse. You clearly intended to all along so why not spit it all out via the
correct channels. Whatever the outcome you can then at least feel safe in
the knowledge that YOU did the right thing. The story is getting weaker and
thiner daily and this isn't the best way to get it out in the open mate, I'm
sure that you are aware of that. The person that you are accusing ought to
have the opportunity to defend themselves, as you would want if it were you
that was being accused. You could always call/email him and get his side of
the story.

BTW, I've never met the guy in my life!

>
> dont let it go,
>
> love and kisses janice xx
>
>
> Eric Hall wrote:
>
>> Given that this allegation has been made, that is that Kieren Bradey
>> used a
>> forged medical declaration, is the matter going to be investigated by
>> STC.
>> If not, how does a BPA member such as myself ensure that it is?
>>
>> How can STC investigate itself when it is made up of individuals that
>> all
>> have a vested fiancial interest and are all mates with each other?
>>
>> Geordie........you might like to help me out on this one.
>>
>> Eric Hall
>>
>>
>> "Daviey Walker" <daviey.walker@virginREMOVE.network> wrote in message
>> news9bOg.1335$s4.621@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> > falling janice wrote:
>> >> Hmmm !!!
>> >>
>> >> Tougne and cheek come to mind along with a few verbal insults, I could
>> >> always throw them your way but I will take it in the manor it was
>> >> intended you cheeky little monkey
>> >>
>> >> btw it was an avaition medical we are talking about not a self
>> >> declaration
>> >>
>> >> love and kisses janice xx
>> >>
>>