Re: padi or bsac

kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
> i live in england and holiday abroad which would be best padi or bsac
>
I've trained with several diver training agencies and with other divers
trained by both commercial instructors including BSAC, SAA, PADI, SDI
NAUI & SSI.

If you're in the UK (as am I), don't forget that either are two other
club based training organisations, the SAA (Sub Aqua Association) and
SSAC (Scottish Sub Aqua Association), all of which offer very similar
courses and qualifications to that of the BSAC (British Sub Aqua
Association).

I was originally BSAC trained (back in 83), but have also completed
technical courses with SDI, TDI, IANTD and PSA and I'm now an SAA member
and club instructor.

In short the best way of training will be determined by you.

If you want a comprehensive course that won't cost you a lot (just the
annual club membership fee) and that you can do at your own pace, in a
relaxed environment, then the club system is probably the best. With
the club system you're not paying for instruction, as its members like
me who volunteer their time to instruct, thus you do the course at your
own pace, repeating any drills and theory work as many times as ittakes
for you to fully understand and gain proficiency. You will also gain
from the decades of experience from all the other club members and
instructors who won't have a commercial axe to grind, and often you can
use club equipment to train. The disadvantage is that it will take a
lot longer to get the qualification, often a few month, as clubs meet
once or twice a week (lecture & pool sessions), so if you're in a hurry
its not appropriate. Also, unlike al the commercial agencies, clubs
don't charge for any additional courses such as first aid, rescue,
dry-suit, drift, wreck, etc.

There are BSAC and SAA clubs throughout England and Wales and SSAC in
Scotland. You can locate local clubs via the respective web-sites
www.saa.org.uk and www.bsac.co.uk.

Commercial training via PADI, SDI, NAUI, SSI etc can also be good and
has the advantage (and possibly disadvantage) of being done over a much
shorter time, often over consecutive days. The quality is purely
dependent upon the individual instructor rather than the particular
agency. Personal referral from previous student is thus essential;
however, if you need to take a little longer to complete the course you
will pay for any additional time and everything is and extra. (PADI
sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').

The qualifications from ALL these organisations are recognised
worldwide. BSAC, SAA & SSAC are members of CMAS, the worldwide
organisation for sports diving clubs, and, for example, a BSAC 'Sports
Diver' has the same qualification as a SAA 'Club Diver' or PADI Advanced
Open Water (AOW) & Rescue Diver, thus if you train with one agency you
can also do a 'crossover' course to many other agencies.

I've dived in many locations and my BSAC and SAA qualifications have
always been welcomed. There was only one dive centre that wanted me to
do a PADI course and stared that they don't recognise the BSAC, but that
was purely so they could sell me a course for a few hundred dollars, so
I went elsewhere!

I hope that helps.

Regards,

Tony

"Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message
news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net...
> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
>

> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').

Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?

"Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:FNG8i.18396$F_4.17388@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message
> news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net...
>> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>
>> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').
>
> Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?

Or (pardon the spelling) Become Sertified Another Century?
Anyway, PADI stands for "Put ALL your Dollars In"

Ken

Ken wrote:
> "Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:FNG8i.18396$F_4.17388@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
>> "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message
>> news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net...
>>> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
>>>
>>> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').
>> Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?
>
> Or (pardon the spelling) Become Sertified Another Century?
> Anyway, PADI stands for "Put ALL your Dollars In"

And CMAS means 'Complete moron at sea'.

/Søren

Maria James wrote:
> "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message
> news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net...
>> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>
>> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').
>
> Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?

The traditional line is Better Send Another 'Chopper' (Helicopter).

nigelH
PADI MSD, BSAC SD/ADI.

Or the other one for PADi is:

Pay And Dive In

Maria James wrote:
> Or the other one for PADi is:
>
> Pay And Dive In
>
>
Nah, the best one is
Paperwork, and diving inbetween.

Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?

"Doh" <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5cj7psF309lbrU3@mid.individual.net...
> Maria James wrote:
> > Or the other one for PADi is:
> >
> > Pay And Dive In
> >
> >
> Nah, the best one is
> Paperwork, and diving inbetween.
>
>
> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?

Belly flop?

Scott wrote:
> "Doh" <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5cj7psF309lbrU3@mid.individual.net...
>> Maria James wrote:
>>> Or the other one for PADi is:
>>>
>>> Pay And Dive In
>>>
>>>
>> Nah, the best one is
>> Paperwork, and diving inbetween.
>>
>>
>> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?
>
> Belly flop?
>
>
>
;-)

Nah, I don't know what its SUPPOSED to be, but I heard it was
BAD

Bacon Sarnie
Arse Wiped
Descend!

Doh wrote:

> Maria James wrote:
>
>> Or the other one for PADi is:
>>
>> Pay And Dive In
>>
> Nah, the best one is
> Paperwork, and diving inbetween.
>
>
> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?

Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-)

Matthias

Matthias Voss wrote:
> Doh wrote:
>
>> Maria James wrote:
>>
>>> Or the other one for PADi is:
>>>
>>> Pay And Dive In
>>>
>> Nah, the best one is
>> Paperwork, and diving inbetween.
>>
>>
>> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?
>
> Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-)

COFFEE?

Isn't that

Count On Free Flow Every Excursion?

Which organisation is that then ;-)

>
> Matthias
>

Maria James wrote:
> "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message
> news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net...
>> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote:
>>
>
>> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In').
>
> Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?
>
>
Nope, that only happens when you go to the LDS!

Thus spake "Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> :

>Or the other one for PADi is:
>
>Pay And Dive In
>

You know the phone number for PADI, right?

1-800-PAY-PADI (they claim it's SAY-PADI)
--
dillon

The pen may be mightier than the sword, but I've never
seen a .sig beat a Sig.

On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:30:06 +0100, Doh <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in
rec.scuba:

>Matthias Voss wrote:
>> Doh wrote:
>>
>>> Maria James wrote:
>>>
>>>> Or the other one for PADi is:
>>>>
>>>> Pay And Dive In
>>>>
>>> Nah, the best one is
>>> Paperwork, and diving inbetween.
>>>
>>>
>>> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent?
>>
>> Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-)
>
>COFFEE?
>
>Isn't that
>
>Count On Free Flow Every Excursion?
>
>Which organisation is that then ;-)
>
<golf clap>

"John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in message
news:rlpj73p8cj4524a7d2b360uen590t6k03f@4ax.com...

> >COFFEE?
> >
> >Isn't that
> >
> >Count On Free Flow Every Excursion?
> >
> >Which organisation is that then ;-)
> >
> <golf clap>

Not to ride your ass, but WTF does a "golf clap" do for anyone?

He deserved far more than anything to do with golf.

BARKEEP!

A double for the man.

	#1
Diesel	Re: padi or bsac kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote: > i live in england and holiday abroad which would be best padi or bsac > I've trained with several diver training agencies and with other divers trained by both commercial instructors including BSAC, SAA, PADI, SDI NAUI & SSI. If you're in the UK (as am I), don't forget that either are two other club based training organisations, the SAA (Sub Aqua Association) and SSAC (Scottish Sub Aqua Association), all of which offer very similar courses and qualifications to that of the BSAC (British Sub Aqua Association). I was originally BSAC trained (back in 83), but have also completed technical courses with SDI, TDI, IANTD and PSA and I'm now an SAA member and club instructor. In short the best way of training will be determined by you. If you want a comprehensive course that won't cost you a lot (just the annual club membership fee) and that you can do at your own pace, in a relaxed environment, then the club system is probably the best. With the club system you're not paying for instruction, as its members like me who volunteer their time to instruct, thus you do the course at your own pace, repeating any drills and theory work as many times as ittakes for you to fully understand and gain proficiency. You will also gain from the decades of experience from all the other club members and instructors who won't have a commercial axe to grind, and often you can use club equipment to train. The disadvantage is that it will take a lot longer to get the qualification, often a few month, as clubs meet once or twice a week (lecture & pool sessions), so if you're in a hurry its not appropriate. Also, unlike al the commercial agencies, clubs don't charge for any additional courses such as first aid, rescue, dry-suit, drift, wreck, etc. There are BSAC and SAA clubs throughout England and Wales and SSAC in Scotland. You can locate local clubs via the respective web-sites www.saa.org.uk and www.bsac.co.uk. Commercial training via PADI, SDI, NAUI, SSI etc can also be good and has the advantage (and possibly disadvantage) of being done over a much shorter time, often over consecutive days. The quality is purely dependent upon the individual instructor rather than the particular agency. Personal referral from previous student is thus essential; however, if you need to take a little longer to complete the course you will pay for any additional time and everything is and extra. (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In'). The qualifications from ALL these organisations are recognised worldwide. BSAC, SAA & SSAC are members of CMAS, the worldwide organisation for sports diving clubs, and, for example, a BSAC 'Sports Diver' has the same qualification as a SAA 'Club Diver' or PADI Advanced Open Water (AOW) & Rescue Diver, thus if you train with one agency you can also do a 'crossover' course to many other agencies. I've dived in many locations and my BSAC and SAA qualifications have always been welcomed. There was only one dive centre that wanted me to do a PADI course and stared that they don't recognise the BSAC, but that was purely so they could sell me a course for a few hundred dollars, so I went elsewhere! I hope that helps. Regards, Tony

	#2
Maria James	Re: padi or bsac "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net... > kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote: > > (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In'). Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check?

	#3
Ken	Re: padi or bsac "Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:FNG8i.18396$F_4.17388@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net... > > "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message > news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net... >> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote: >> > >> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In'). > > Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check? Or (pardon the spelling) Become Sertified Another Century? Anyway, PADI stands for "Put ALL your Dollars In" Ken

	#4
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=F8ren_Reinke?=	Re: padi or bsac Ken wrote: > "Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:FNG8i.18396$F_4.17388@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net... >> "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message >> news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net... >>> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote: >>> >>> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In'). >> Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check? > > Or (pardon the spelling) Become Sertified Another Century? > Anyway, PADI stands for "Put ALL your Dollars In" And CMAS means 'Complete moron at sea'. /Søren

	#5
Nigel Hewitt	Re: padi or bsac Maria James wrote: > "Diesel" <tony@samesamediving.com> wrote in message > news:f3uqet$2s5j$1@energise.enta.net... >> kevinbarfield@btinternet.com wrote: >> > >> (PADI sometimes stands for 'Put Another Dollar In'). > > Does that make BSAC - Better Sign Another check? The traditional line is Better Send Another 'Chopper' (Helicopter). nigelH PADI MSD, BSAC SD/ADI.

	#6
Maria James	Re: padi or bsac Or the other one for PADi is: Pay And Dive In

	#8
Scott	Re: padi or bsac "Doh" <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in message news:5cj7psF309lbrU3@mid.individual.net... > Maria James wrote: > > Or the other one for PADi is: > > > > Pay And Dive In > > > > > Nah, the best one is > Paperwork, and diving inbetween. > > > Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent? Belly flop?

	#9
Doh	Re: padi or bsac Scott wrote: > "Doh" <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in message > news:5cj7psF309lbrU3@mid.individual.net... >> Maria James wrote: >>> Or the other one for PADi is: >>> >>> Pay And Dive In >>> >>> >> Nah, the best one is >> Paperwork, and diving inbetween. >> >> >> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent? > > Belly flop? > > > ;-) Nah, I don't know what its SUPPOSED to be, but I heard it was BAD Bacon Sarnie Arse Wiped Descend!

	#10
Matthias Voss	Re: padi or bsac Doh wrote: > Maria James wrote: > >> Or the other one for PADi is: >> >> Pay And Dive In >> > Nah, the best one is > Paperwork, and diving inbetween. > > > Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent? Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-) Matthias

	#11
Doh	Re: padi or bsac Matthias Voss wrote: > Doh wrote: > >> Maria James wrote: >> >>> Or the other one for PADi is: >>> >>> Pay And Dive In >>> >> Nah, the best one is >> Paperwork, and diving inbetween. >> >> >> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent? > > Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-) COFFEE? Isn't that Count On Free Flow Every Excursion? Which organisation is that then ;-) > > Matthias >

	#13
Dillon Pyron	Re: padi or bsac Thus spake "Maria James" <m.james51@ntlworld.com> : >Or the other one for PADi is: > >Pay And Dive In > You know the phone number for PADI, right? 1-800-PAY-PADI (they claim it's SAY-PADI) -- dillon The pen may be mightier than the sword, but I've never seen a .sig beat a Sig.

	#14
John Hanson	Re: padi or bsac On Mon, 04 Jun 2007 22:30:06 +0100, Doh <doh@microsoft.com> wrote in rec.scuba: >Matthias Voss wrote: >> Doh wrote: >> >>> Maria James wrote: >>> >>>> Or the other one for PADi is: >>>> >>>> Pay And Dive In >>>> >>> Nah, the best one is >>> Paperwork, and diving inbetween. >>> >>> >>> Whats the BSAC equivalent of the PADI 5 point descent? >> >> Glad I don't have coffee at this time of day ;-) > >COFFEE? > >Isn't that > >Count On Free Flow Every Excursion? > >Which organisation is that then ;-) > <golf clap>

	#15
Scott	Re: padi or bsac "John Hanson" <jhanson@northernlinks.com> wrote in message news:rlpj73p8cj4524a7d2b360uen590t6k03f@4ax.com... > >COFFEE? > > > >Isn't that > > > >Count On Free Flow Every Excursion? > > > >Which organisation is that then ;-) > > > <golf clap> Not to ride your ass, but WTF does a "golf clap" do for anyone? He deserved far more than anything to do with golf. BARKEEP! A double for the man.