John Griffiths

Hi All
Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
paint?
cheers
John

chrisR

"John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
> paint?
> cheers
> John
>


Fencing paint?

sorry

ChrisR

D Parker

two pack plolyurothane.

DP
"John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
> paint?
> cheers
> John

Ronald Raygun

chrisR wrote:

> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
>> paint?
>
>
> Fencing paint?
>
> sorry

What do you mean "sorry"? You've made a perfectly normal comment,
and I was about to make one myself on similar lines. I struggle to
imagine what John's talking about.

John Griffiths

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> chrisR wrote:
>
>> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:jeednZXNQYHmuyLbRVnysAA@bt.com...
>>>
>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>> spray
>>> paint?
>>
>>
>> Fencing paint?
>>
>> sorry
>
> What do you mean "sorry"? You've made a perfectly normal comment,
> and I was about to make one myself on similar lines. I struggle to
> imagine what John's talking about.

Foils are the collective name dinghy sailors use for the centreboard and
rudder. You do know what a centreboard and a rudder are?

toad

On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi All
> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
> paint?

What material?

Ronald Raygun

John Griffiths wrote:

> "Ronald Raygun" <no.spam@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
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>> chrisR wrote:
>>> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:jeednZXNQYHmuyLbRVnysAA@bt.com...
>>>>
>>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>>> spray
>>>> paint?
>>>
>>> Fencing paint?
>>>
>>> sorry
>>
>> What do you mean "sorry"? You've made a perfectly normal comment,
>> and I was about to make one myself on similar lines. I struggle to
>> imagine what John's talking about.
>
> Foils are the collective name dinghy sailors use for the centreboard and
> rudder.

Thanks. Not being a dinghy person I didn't know this.

I was thinking they might have been hydrofoils, like on those crazy
moth things.

> You do know what a centreboard and a rudder are?

Oooh, that's a bit below the waterline! :-)

John Griffiths

"toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> Hi All
>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
>> paint?
>
> What material?
>

Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a lot
of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
nice again for a little while.

John

John Griffiths

"Ronald Raygun" <no.spam@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
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> John Griffiths wrote:
>
>> "Ronald Raygun" <no.spam@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
>> news6Mvi.5846$cw7.5446@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> chrisR wrote:
>>>> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:jeednZXNQYHmuyLbRVnysAA@bt.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just
>>>>> to
>>>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>>>> spray
>>>>> paint?
>>>>
>>>> Fencing paint?
>>>>
>>>> sorry
>>>
>>> What do you mean "sorry"? You've made a perfectly normal comment,
>>> and I was about to make one myself on similar lines. I struggle to
>>> imagine what John's talking about.
>>
>> Foils are the collective name dinghy sailors use for the centreboard and
>> rudder.
>
> Thanks. Not being a dinghy person I didn't know this.
>
> I was thinking they might have been hydrofoils, like on those crazy
> moth things.
>
>> You do know what a centreboard and a rudder are?
>
> Oooh, that's a bit below the waterline! :-)
>

Sorry, couldn't resist it ;-)

ChrisR

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>
> "toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>> spray
>>> paint?
>>
>> What material?
>>
>
> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
> lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
> nice again for a little while.
>
> John

2 pack epoxy might be be the nmost durable I think.
ChrisR

ChrisR

"ChrisR" <chris@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi All
>>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>>> spray
>>>> paint?
>>>
>>> What material?
>>>
>>
>> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
>> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
>> lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
>> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
>> nice again for a little while.
>>
>> John
>
> 2 pack epoxy might be be the nmost durable I think.
> ChrisR
>
whoops not available as aerosol! Visit Halfords or a local auto paint
supplier and get a paint designed for plastic bumpers. Plastic bumpers
must be similar to your foils.
ChrisR

toad

On 13 Aug, 10:31, "ChrisR" <ch...@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote:
> "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "toad" <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> >> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >>> Hi All
> >>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> >>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
> >>> spray
> >>> paint?
>
> >> What material?
>
> > Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
> > that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
> > lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
> > probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
> > nice again for a little while.
>
> > John
>
> 2 pack epoxy might be be the nmost durable I think.

Except you want the boat rubbing away bits of the board, not the board
rubbing away the GRP of the boat!

toad

On 13 Aug, 09:50, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> "toad" <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> Hi All
> >> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> >> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
> >> paint?
>
> > What material?
>
> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a lot
> of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
> nice again for a little while.

I think I'd have used the Gel Coat. Nice and smooth, then wet and dry.
However I'm not sure I'd bother.

Martin

On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 10:36:44 +0100, "ChrisR" <chris@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote:

>
>"ChrisR" <chris@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote in message
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>>
>> "John Griffiths" <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:gr6dndZb98fOhl3bRVnyuQA@bt.com...
>>>
>>> "toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>> news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>>> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
>>>>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>>>> spray
>>>>> paint?
>>>>
>>>> What material?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
>>> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
>>> lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
>>> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
>>> nice again for a little while.
>>>
>>> John
>>
>> 2 pack epoxy might be be the nmost durable I think.
>> ChrisR
>>
>whoops not available as aerosol! Visit Halfords or a local auto paint
>supplier and get a paint designed for plastic bumpers. Plastic bumpers
>must be similar to your foils.

for some meanings of similar? :-)
--

Martin

toad

On 13 Aug, 10:37, toad <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 13 Aug, 10:31, "ChrisR" <ch...@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:gr6dndZb98fOhl3bRVnyuQA@bt.com...
>
> > > "toad" <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> > >news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> > >> On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > >>> Hi All
> > >>> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> > >>> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
> > >>> spray
> > >>> paint?
>
> > >> What material?
>
> > > Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
> > > that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
> > > lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
> > > probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
> > > nice again for a little while.
>
> > > John
>
> > 2 pack epoxy might be be the nmost durable I think.
>
> Except you want the boat rubbing away bits of the board, not the board
> rubbing away the GRP of the boat!

Scratch that comment!

ChrisR

"toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On 13 Aug, 09:50, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> "toad" <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> >> Hi All
>> >> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just
>> >> to
>> >> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>> >> spray
>> >> paint?
>>
>> > What material?
>>
>> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
>> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
>> lot
>> of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
>> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
>> nice again for a little while.
>
> I think I'd have used the Gel Coat. Nice and smooth, then wet and dry.
> However I'm not sure I'd bother.
>

If you use gel coat I think it has to be wax loaded or the air on the
surface otherwise excluded for it not to remain "tacky".

ChrisR

D Parker

"ChrisR" <chris@yachtsmen.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "toad" <toad_oftoadhall@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>> On 13 Aug, 09:50, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> "toad" <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:1186991181.545430.279700@w3g2000hsg.googlegro ups.com...
>>>
>>> > On 12 Aug, 16:25, "John Griffiths" <crazyun...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>> >> Hi All
>>> >> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just
>>> >> to
>>> >> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available
>>> >> spray
>>> >> paint?
>>>
>>> > What material?
>>>
>>> Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser if
>>> that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is also a
>>> lot
>>> of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the slot. It
>>> probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have them looking
>>> nice again for a little while.
>>
>> I think I'd have used the Gel Coat. Nice and smooth, then wet and dry.
>> However I'm not sure I'd bother.
>>
>
> If you use gel coat I think it has to be wax loaded or the air on the
> surface otherwise excluded for it not to remain "tacky".
>
> ChrisR

Spot on.. "Flow Coat" is what he needs

DP

Keith

In message <gr6dndZb98fOhl3bRVnyuQA@bt.com>, John Griffiths
<crazyuncle@btinternet.com> writes
>
>
>Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser
>if that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is
>also a lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the
>slot. It probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have
>them looking nice again for a little while.
>
Lasers are 'injection-moulded', so your assumption that it's a
polyurethane-type material is probably right on the nail. Gel-coat is a
waste of time, I think.

Having said that, I haven't a clue what would 're-surface' polyurethane.

You could try acrylic. Possibly mixed 90/10 with cyanoacrilate (that's
superglue to the uninitiated) but I'd try it on an insignificant place
first.

Just don't try and feather it out for too long.. you'll end up with a
paintbrush stuck to your tukush
--
Keith replace nospam with ilf0rd

toad

On 14 Aug, 16:06, Keith <ke...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message <gr6dndZb98fOhl3bRVny...@bt.com>, John Griffiths
> <crazyun...@btinternet.com> writes
>
> >Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser
> >if that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is
> >also a lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the
> >slot. It probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have
> >them looking nice again for a little while.
>
> Lasers are 'injection-moulded', so your assumption that it's a
> polyurethane-type material is probably right on the nail. Gel-coat is a
> waste of time, I think.
>
> Having said that, I haven't a clue what would 're-surface' polyurethane.

Laser's aren't polyurethane and I'm pretty sure the foils aren't
either.

Steve Firth

John Griffiths <crazyuncle@btinternet.com> wrote:

> Been repairing my foils and I want to give them a coat of paint just to
> smarten them up a bit. Anyone recommend an appropriate uk available spray
> paint?

The appropriate paint is two-pack polyurethane. However this isn't
suitable for home spraying, you need a spray booth and air masks to work
with PU. It can cause extremely nasty lung conditions if inhaled.

You could take the foils to a car bodyshop and get them to paint them.
They will have the appropriate equipment. Alternatively, when I
varnished my washboards I used brushed two pack PU and applied the final
coat with a foam brush. This gave me a really good finish. The local
boatyard offered me work doing the same job for other people if I wanted
it, after seeing the boat in the marina.

toad

On 14 Aug, 16:15, toad <toad_oftoadh...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14 Aug, 16:06, Keith <ke...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > In message <gr6dndZb98fOhl3bRVny...@bt.com>, John Griffiths
> > <crazyun...@btinternet.com> writes
>
> > >Its some type of hard polyurethane type plastic - the boat is a Laser
> > >if that's any help. I've done the repairs with GelCoat but there is
> > >also a lot of bare plastic where the centreboard especially rubs in the
> > >slot. It probably will wear away again, but it would be good to have
> > >them looking nice again for a little while.
>
> > Lasers are 'injection-moulded', so your assumption that it's a
> > polyurethane-type material is probably right on the nail. Gel-coat is a
> > waste of time, I think.
>
> > Having said that, I haven't a clue what would 're-surface' polyurethane.
>
> Laser's aren't polyurethane and I'm pretty sure the foils aren't
> either.

I'm getting polyurethane and polypropelene mixed up. Please ignore
that comment.