Derby memories.

Hi Chaps.
When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or hard
luck stories etc, etc.
I tend to have this same argument every year come early June, usually after
a Guinness or three in my local.
And it goes like this:
1. Dancing Brave wasn't the unluckiest loser of recent times, for me it was
Silver Patriarch.
2. Galileo's 2001 victory was every bit as good as the great Shergars of 81.
Nostalgia (it's not what it used to be, bum bum!!) tends to blur the actual
facts sometimes.
Any thoughts?
Cheers ears
Aid.

aid wrote:
> Hi Chaps.
> When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or hard
> luck stories etc, etc.
> I tend to have this same argument every year come early June, usually after
> a Guinness or three in my local.
> And it goes like this:
> 1. Dancing Brave wasn't the unluckiest loser of recent times, for me it was
> Silver Patriarch.
> 2. Galileo's 2001 victory was every bit as good as the great Shergars of 81.
> Nostalgia (it's not what it used to be, bum bum!!) tends to blur the actual
> facts sometimes.
> Any thoughts?
> Cheers ears
> Aid.
>
>

True enough.........so many memories. I first went to Epsom to
see Crepello win for the kid Piggot. Decided that it was no
place to be if you wanted to SEE the race but I did go once
more after backing Sir Ivor anti-post for months with most of
my spare cash having watched it win so impressively at
Longchamp in its final 2 year old race.

Fascinating race, with all those imponderables over the
distance, and that quirky course. It gets me involved every
time. But amongst all those great winners, the race which
stands out for me is one where other things had left me no
time to get an opinion or to have a bet. Just too busy for
more than a quick run through the field, but, flushed with
Harringay dog winnings, I increased my wife's pick from £2ew
to £5ew on the day................we all know about wives choices.

The memory is remains. Snow Knight (50-1) turning in clear. Me
thinking about how pleased she will be if it hangs on for a
place, and that slow realisiation down the long straight that
the buggers were not going to catch it.

This memory might take second place if Yellowstone obliges,
having kept a few quid at an average of 280-1,

Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding,
but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the
weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late
opinions from the thinking posters before the event again,
like the old days?

Good luck,

Les

On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>
>
> Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding,
> but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the
> weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late
> opinions from the thinking posters before the event again,
> like the old days?
>
> Good luck,
>
> Les

I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had
more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone
will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina
merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type.
Possible place bet on the day I'd say.

I'm with you on Aqaleem Wiz, the trial run was very impressive, his profile
is perfect, with Sinndar being his old man & and dam sire is SW.
For a bigger price place bet then Solder of fortune is guaranteed to stay.
Both e/w, so it's just a matter of waiting to see how good this fav is & how
much luck he gets in running on the day & if we can mop up any pieces.
Good luck all.
Cheers ears
Aid.

"The Weary Wizard" <mark_holliday12@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding,
>> but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the
>> weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late
>> opinions from the thinking posters before the event again,
>> like the old days?
>>
>> Good luck,
>>
>> Les
>
> I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had
> more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone
> will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina
> merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type.
> Possible place bet on the day I'd say.
>

Forgot to mention, it's worth noting, Aqaleem finished a short head in front
of Authorized at Newbury last September.
Cheers ears
Aid.

"aid" <aidan.delaney1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> I'm with you on Aqaleem Wiz, the trial run was very impressive, his
> profile is perfect, with Sinndar being his old man & and dam sire is SW.
> For a bigger price place bet then Solder of fortune is guaranteed to stay.
> Both e/w, so it's just a matter of waiting to see how good this fav is &
> how much luck he gets in running on the day & if we can mop up any pieces.
> Good luck all.
> Cheers ears
> Aid.
>
>
> "The Weary Wizard" <mark_holliday12@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1180534375.437639.16340@m36g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>> On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding,
>>> but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the
>>> weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late
>>> opinions from the thinking posters before the event again,
>>> like the old days?
>>>
>>> Good luck,
>>>
>>> Les
>>
>> I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had
>> more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone
>> will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina
>> merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type.
>> Possible place bet on the day I'd say.
>>
>
>

"Mike Muppet" <mike@muppet.com.com> wrote in message
news:f3jgdt$trl$2@aioe.org...
> aid wrote:
> > Hi Chaps.
> > When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or
hard
> > luck stories etc, etc.

It shows my age that Santa Claus won in 1964 was probably most important in
my life.
At the age of 5 I drew the horse in a sweepstake run in our street (by the
local copper, strangely enough). I was promised an Ice Cream if it won. Of
course, it won (odds on I believe) and I was hooked. I have basically been
paying for that Ice Cream ever since!

Ian P

From a punting point of view it had to be Secreto having taken 20/1.
Shegar's for the manner of victory.

Before my time (not by that much) but this Richard Baerlein report of the
1970 Derby seems to be appropriate to this thread:

http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/20..._greatest.html

Gareth

aid wrote:
> Forgot to mention, it's worth noting, Aqaleem finished a short head in front
> of Authorized at Newbury last September.
> Cheers ears
> Aid.

That's an excellent point! I'm on lumpy!

Mike

	#1
aid	Derby memories. Hi Chaps. When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or hard luck stories etc, etc. I tend to have this same argument every year come early June, usually after a Guinness or three in my local. And it goes like this: 1. Dancing Brave wasn't the unluckiest loser of recent times, for me it was Silver Patriarch. 2. Galileo's 2001 victory was every bit as good as the great Shergars of 81. Nostalgia (it's not what it used to be, bum bum!!) tends to blur the actual facts sometimes. Any thoughts? Cheers ears Aid.

	#2
lescor	Re: Derby memories. aid wrote: > Hi Chaps. > When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or hard > luck stories etc, etc. > I tend to have this same argument every year come early June, usually after > a Guinness or three in my local. > And it goes like this: > 1. Dancing Brave wasn't the unluckiest loser of recent times, for me it was > Silver Patriarch. > 2. Galileo's 2001 victory was every bit as good as the great Shergars of 81. > Nostalgia (it's not what it used to be, bum bum!!) tends to blur the actual > facts sometimes. > Any thoughts? > Cheers ears > Aid. > > True enough.........so many memories. I first went to Epsom to see Crepello win for the kid Piggot. Decided that it was no place to be if you wanted to SEE the race but I did go once more after backing Sir Ivor anti-post for months with most of my spare cash having watched it win so impressively at Longchamp in its final 2 year old race. Fascinating race, with all those imponderables over the distance, and that quirky course. It gets me involved every time. But amongst all those great winners, the race which stands out for me is one where other things had left me no time to get an opinion or to have a bet. Just too busy for more than a quick run through the field, but, flushed with Harringay dog winnings, I increased my wife's pick from £2ew to £5ew on the day................we all know about wives choices. The memory is remains. Snow Knight (50-1) turning in clear. Me thinking about how pleased she will be if it hangs on for a place, and that slow realisiation down the long straight that the buggers were not going to catch it. This memory might take second place if Yellowstone obliges, having kept a few quid at an average of 280-1, Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding, but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late opinions from the thinking posters before the event again, like the old days? Good luck, Les

	#3
The Weary Wizard	Re: Derby memories. On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote: > > > Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding, > but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the > weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late > opinions from the thinking posters before the event again, > like the old days? > > Good luck, > > Les I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type. Possible place bet on the day I'd say.

	#4
aid	Re: Derby memories. I'm with you on Aqaleem Wiz, the trial run was very impressive, his profile is perfect, with Sinndar being his old man & and dam sire is SW. For a bigger price place bet then Solder of fortune is guaranteed to stay. Both e/w, so it's just a matter of waiting to see how good this fav is & how much luck he gets in running on the day & if we can mop up any pieces. Good luck all. Cheers ears Aid. "The Weary Wizard" <mark_holliday12@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:1180534375.437639.16340@m36g2000hse.googlegro ups.com... > On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote: >> >> >> Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding, >> but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the >> weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late >> opinions from the thinking posters before the event again, >> like the old days? >> >> Good luck, >> >> Les > > I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had > more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone > will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina > merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type. > Possible place bet on the day I'd say. >

	#5
aid	Re: Derby memories. Forgot to mention, it's worth noting, Aqaleem finished a short head in front of Authorized at Newbury last September. Cheers ears Aid. "aid" <aidan.delaney1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:R6w7i.3320$VS.1749@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... > I'm with you on Aqaleem Wiz, the trial run was very impressive, his > profile is perfect, with Sinndar being his old man & and dam sire is SW. > For a bigger price place bet then Solder of fortune is guaranteed to stay. > Both e/w, so it's just a matter of waiting to see how good this fav is & > how much luck he gets in running on the day & if we can mop up any pieces. > Good luck all. > Cheers ears > Aid. > > > "The Weary Wizard" <mark_holliday12@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1180534375.437639.16340@m36g2000hse.googlegro ups.com... >> On May 30, 9:49 am, lescor <lescorb...@btinternet.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Still undecided about a bet this time. Fav looks outstanding, >>> but not at this price, and plenty of rain around before the >>> weekend. I will wait. Be nice if we could get some late >>> opinions from the thinking posters before the event again, >>> like the old days? >>> >>> Good luck, >>> >>> Les >> >> I'm liking Aqaleem very much indeed. He did look as though he had >> more to come with his Lingfield win - very classy animal. Yellowstone >> will not mind the soft ground, appearing to be a bit of a stamina >> merchant to me. Though not bred for it, he looks a St. Leger type. >> Possible place bet on the day I'd say. >> > >

	#6
IAN	Re: Derby memories. "Mike Muppet" <mike@muppet.com.com> wrote in message news:f3jgdt$trl$2@aioe.org... > aid wrote: > > Hi Chaps. > > When it comes to the Derby, we all have our own personal favourites or hard > > luck stories etc, etc. It shows my age that Santa Claus won in 1964 was probably most important in my life. At the age of 5 I drew the horse in a sweepstake run in our street (by the local copper, strangely enough). I was promised an Ice Cream if it won. Of course, it won (odds on I believe) and I was hooked. I have basically been paying for that Ice Cream ever since! Ian P

	#7
Gareth Owen	Re: Derby memories. From a punting point of view it had to be Secreto having taken 20/1. Shegar's for the manner of victory. Before my time (not by that much) but this Richard Baerlein report of the 1970 Derby seems to be appropriate to this thread: http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/20..._greatest.html Gareth

	#8
Mike Muppet	Re: Derby memories. aid wrote: > Forgot to mention, it's worth noting, Aqaleem finished a short head in front > of Authorized at Newbury last September. > Cheers ears > Aid. That's an excellent point! I'm on lumpy! Mike