If Shane Warne had stood on the ball..................

.......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire
series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for
a 4 - 1 ashes win?

I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players.

.... and England without Flintoff? you say potatoes i say potatoes

In article <43247478$0$17507$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>,
Tids <carroll@REMOVETOREPLYwaihi.co.uk> writes:
>......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire
>series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for
>a 4 - 1 ashes win?
>
>I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players.
>

I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that they would have missed Warne
even more than they have missed McGrath.
--
John Hall
"Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

Dave Turner wrote:
> ... and England without Flintoff? you say potatoes i say potatoes

Fair point.

Agree to a point.. think the Aussies in this series (Warne and to a lesser
extent Brett Lee apart) have performed well below their best. Without Warne,
we would have clinched the series by now for sure. and Tests 2-4 would have
been won comfortably. He has kept them in it, especially at Old Trafford. On
the other hand.. a fit Simon Jones made enough of a difference in tests 2
and 4 between victory and defeat.

Jim.

"John Hall" <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message
news:kfS4V7KhqHJDFwLk@jhall.demon.co.uk...
> In article <43247478$0$17507$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>,
> Tids <carroll@REMOVETOREPLYwaihi.co.uk> writes:
>>......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire
>>series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for
>>a 4 - 1 ashes win?
>>
>>I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players.
>>
>
> I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that they would have missed Warne
> even more than they have missed McGrath.
> --
> John Hall
> "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
> But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
> Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

"Dave Turner" <not@dave> wrote in message news:432477a3@quokka.wn.com.au...
> ... and England without Flintoff? you say potatoes i say potatoes
>
>

If Freddie had stood on that cricket ball, it would just have been 1 flatter
cricket ball.

Seriously, you know how bad England are without Freddie - you played them
that way last time.

Warney is THE best , he dont know when he's beaten , he is without doubt THE
GREATEST test match player of ALL time , and yep I'm English , its been an
unbelievable series and I think England will win it but with more drama to
come tomorrow

>>I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players.

And they're still the #1 team in the world in both forms of the game.

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Tids	If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. .......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for a 4 - 1 ashes win? I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players.

	#2
Dave Turner	Re: If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. .... and England without Flintoff? you say potatoes i say potatoes

	#3
John Hall	Re: If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. In article <43247478$0$17507$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, Tids <carroll@REMOVETOREPLYwaihi.co.uk> writes: >......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire >series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for >a 4 - 1 ashes win? > >I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players. > I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that they would have missed Warne even more than they have missed McGrath. -- John Hall "Home is heaven and orgies are vile, But you need an orgy, once in a while." Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

	#5
Jim Smith	Re: If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. Agree to a point.. think the Aussies in this series (Warne and to a lesser extent Brett Lee apart) have performed well below their best. Without Warne, we would have clinched the series by now for sure. and Tests 2-4 would have been won comfortably. He has kept them in it, especially at Old Trafford. On the other hand.. a fit Simon Jones made enough of a difference in tests 2 and 4 between victory and defeat. Jim. "John Hall" <nospam_nov03@jhall.co.uk> wrote in message news:kfS4V7KhqHJDFwLk@jhall.demon.co.uk... > In article <43247478$0$17507$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net>, > Tids <carroll@REMOVETOREPLYwaihi.co.uk> writes: >>......................instead of Glen McGrath and was out of the entire >>series, do you think we would be wrapping up this test match for >>a 4 - 1 ashes win? >> >>I think without Warne the Aussies are just average test players. >> > > I wouldn't go that far, but I agree that they would have missed Warne > even more than they have missed McGrath. > -- > John Hall > "Home is heaven and orgies are vile, > But you need an orgy, once in a while." > Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

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Graybags	Re: If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. "Dave Turner" <not@dave> wrote in message news:432477a3@quokka.wn.com.au... > ... and England without Flintoff? you say potatoes i say potatoes > > If Freddie had stood on that cricket ball, it would just have been 1 flatter cricket ball. Seriously, you know how bad England are without Freddie - you played them that way last time.

	#7
Hendy	Re: If Shane Warne had stood on the ball.................. Warney is THE best , he dont know when he's beaten , he is without doubt THE GREATEST test match player of ALL time , and yep I'm English , its been an unbelievable series and I think England will win it but with more drama to come tomorrow