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  #1
Robert Henderson
 
Default Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

No Warne, no McGrath....and 502-4 in a day. That's the near future
He-Sheilas.

Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
and plenty of time to play. RH
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  #2
max.it
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:09:03 +0100, Robert Henderson
<philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>No Warne, no McGrath....and 502-4 in a day. That's the near future
>He-Sheilas.
>
>Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
>and plenty of time to play. RH



AN Cook 100 in 185 mins off 107 balls, 16x4
AN Cook 200 in 325 mins off 232 balls, 30x4, 1x6

Bowling O M R W
Lee 13 0 69 0 (2nb)
Gillespie 22 3 80 0
Tait 15 1 72 2 (3nb)
MacGill 24 0 128 0
Kasprowicz 19 2 85 2 (3nb)
Hodge 12 1 59 0

ouch!!

max.it

 
  #3
maiet
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cDoocbCfuqGDFwkK@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> No Warne, no McGrath....and 502-4 in a day. That's the near future
> He-Sheilas.
>
> Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
> and plenty of time to play. RH


yes very hard to take, i havent seen us being embarrassed in warm up games
convincingly since 1998 in india. not a good sign for our future.


 
  #4
Larry de Silva
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cDoocbCfuqGDFwkK@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> No Warne, no McGrath....and 502-4 in a day. That's the near future
> He-Sheilas.
>
> Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
> and plenty of time to play. RH



What about Bopara who got 135 dude?? Any comment on his innings and his
future test prospects for England?

Laz




> --
> Robert Henderson
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  #5
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <txASe.823$up1.21224@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
<larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
>> Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
>> and plenty of time to play. RH

>
>
>What about Bopara who got 135 dude?? Any comment on his innings and his
>future test prospects for England?
>
>Laz


Mmm...now let me think of all the batsmen next in line for England by
merit : Key, Collingwood, Cook, Ed Smith, Hildrith, Blackwell, Gidman,
Jefferson, Loye, Brown, Ben Smith, Sales, Adams, Ward.... RH
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  #6
Larry de Silva
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qxKFwPWUdtGDFwwR@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> In message <txASe.823$up1.21224@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
> <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
> >> Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of

strokes
> >> and plenty of time to play. RH

> >
> >
> >What about Bopara who got 135 dude?? Any comment on his innings and his
> >future test prospects for England?
> >
> >Laz

>
> Mmm...now let me think of all the batsmen next in line for England by
> merit : Key, Collingwood, Cook, Ed Smith, Hildrith, Blackwell, Gidman,
> Jefferson, Loye, Brown, Ben Smith, Sales, Adams, Ward.... RH



OK. But what did you think of his 135 against Australia dude?
Is he good enough to at least make the England A team?

Laz


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  #7
Graybags
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Larry de Silva" <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:WHCSe.844$up1.22813@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>
> "Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:qxKFwPWUdtGDFwwR@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <txASe.823$up1.21224@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
>> <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
>> >> Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of

> strokes
>> >> and plenty of time to play. RH
>> >
>> >
>> >What about Bopara who got 135 dude?? Any comment on his innings and his
>> >future test prospects for England?
>> >
>> >Laz

>>
>> Mmm...now let me think of all the batsmen next in line for England by
>> merit : Key, Collingwood, Cook, Ed Smith, Hildrith, Blackwell, Gidman,
>> Jefferson, Loye, Brown, Ben Smith, Sales, Adams, Ward.... RH

>
>
> OK. But what did you think of his 135 against Australia dude?
> Is he good enough to at least make the England A team?


Assuming that your question refers to a non-Caucasian with less than 15
centuries of English history, I reckon Robert's answer will be no. Of
course, a white South African that moved here when he was, say, 9 or 10
would fit the bill perfectly - when can he start.

Graybags


 
  #8
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <WHCSe.844$up1.22813@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
<larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
>OK. But what did you think of his 135 against Australia dude? Is he
>good enough to at least make the England A team?
>
>Laz


Mmm....let me think of all those under 26 batsmen better qualified by
actual performance: Cook, Hildreth, M Wood (Som), Jefferson, Murchall,
Gidman, Sayers, Troughton, Yardy, Clarke... RH
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  #9
max.it
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 08:52:04 +0000 (UTC), max.it <max@teatime.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 4 Sep 2005 09:09:03 +0100, Robert Henderson
><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>No Warne, no McGrath....and 502-4 in a day. That's the near future
>>He-Sheilas.
>>
>>Cook is a tall left hander with an upright stance. Good range of strokes
>>and plenty of time to play. RH

>
>
>AN Cook 100 in 185 mins off 107 balls, 16x4
>AN Cook 200 in 325 mins off 232 balls, 30x4, 1x6
>
>Bowling O M R W
>Lee 13 0 69 0 (2nb)
>Gillespie 22 3 80 0
>Tait 15 1 72 2 (3nb)
>MacGill 24 0 128 0
>Kasprowicz 19 2 85 2 (3nb)
>Hodge 12 1 59 0
>
>ouch!!
>
>max.it


#

Day 2
# ML Hayden 100 in 120 mins off 90 balls, 16x4, 2x6
# BJ Hodge 100 in 158 mins off 119 balls, 17x4, 1x6

Bowling O M R W
Nel 10 1 41 0
Palladino 11 1 73 0 (3nb)
Napier 12 1 77 1 (1w)
JS Ahmed 15 0 95 0 (2nb, 1w)
Middlebrook 23 3 110 2
Phillips 18 0 124 0

double ouch !!

max.it
 
  #10
Larry de Silva
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uvKk3XkV$vGDFwRt@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> In message <WHCSe.844$up1.22813@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
> <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
> >OK. But what did you think of his 135 against Australia dude? Is he
> >good enough to at least make the England A team?
> >
> >Laz

>
> Mmm....let me think of all those under 26 batsmen better qualified by
> actual performance: Cook, Hildreth, M Wood (Som), Jefferson, Murchall,
> Gidman, Sayers, Troughton, Yardy, Clarke... RH



Tell me dude, is it a bad habit of you not answering direct questions, is it
a lack of comprehension or something else? I'm NOT asking you about better
qualified players RH. I just want to know of what you thought of Bopara's
135 against Australia, as you only mentioned the great innings of his
partner, Cook. Also, in your opinion, is Bopara good enough to at least make
the England A team? Either way, WHY?

I cant make it any simpler than that.




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  #11
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <R7WSe.181$dv4.5320@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
<larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
>>
>> Mmm....let me think of all those under 26 batsmen better qualified by
>> actual performance: Cook, Hildreth, M Wood (Som), Jefferson, Murchall,
>> Gidman, Sayers, Troughton, Yardy, Clarke... RH

>
>
>Tell me dude, is it a bad habit of you not answering direct questions,
>is it a lack of comprehension or something else? I'm NOT asking you
>about better qualified players RH. I just want to know of what you
>thought of Bopara's 135 against Australia, as you only mentioned the
>great innings of his partner, Cook. Also, in your opinion, is Bopara
>good enough to at least make the England A team? Either way, WHY?
>
>I cant make it any simpler than that.


You have already had your reply. RH
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  #12
Simon Pleasants
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
<philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>You have already had your reply. RH


Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....
 
  #13
Toby Briggs
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

Simon Pleasants wrote:
> On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
> <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>You have already had your reply. RH

>
>
> Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
> his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....


Don't worry Simon - RH only answers what he wants to, and quite often
not what the OP actually asked for!

Have a look at some of the attempts he made to push around the subject
of (not) naming "Who in [his] view should not play for England then due
to them
being 'white mercenaries' or 'immigrants' to the country?"


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  #14
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <o4kqh11p4obbcc32iu9m1u2dc0oqs829jt@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
<plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>You have already had your reply. RH

>
>Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
>his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....


My list of those before him showed what I think. RH
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  #15
Simon Pleasants
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:07 +0100, Robert Henderson
<philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <o4kqh11p4obbcc32iu9m1u2dc0oqs829jt@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
><plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
>><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>You have already had your reply. RH

>>
>>Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
>>his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....

>
>My list of those before him showed what I think. RH


You call that an answer? The question was what did you think of his
innings against Australia and your answer was to list a number players
you think better qualified for England A duty. That's not an answer,
or at the very least, it's the answer to a different question.

Why are you being so dis-courteous to Larry?
 
  #16
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <clsqh15kmthd541d07dk3fl036rmes96so@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
<plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:07 +0100, Robert Henderson
><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In message <o4kqh11p4obbcc32iu9m1u2dc0oqs829jt@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
>><plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>>>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
>>><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>>You have already had your reply. RH
>>>
>>>Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
>>>his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....

>>
>>My list of those before him showed what I think. RH

>
>You call that an answer? The question was what did you think of his
>innings against Australia and your answer was to list a number players
>you think better qualified for England A duty. That's not an answer,
>or at the very least, it's the answer to a different question.
>

My list showed how far he was from rational consideration. RH

>Why are you being so dis-courteous to Larry?


Really? How? RH
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  #17
Larry de Silva
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:fqd4G+TO0XHDFw$f@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> In message <clsqh15kmthd541d07dk3fl036rmes96so@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
> <plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
> >On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:07 +0100, Robert Henderson
> ><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >
> >>In message <o4kqh11p4obbcc32iu9m1u2dc0oqs829jt@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
> >><plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
> >>>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
> >>><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>You have already had your reply. RH
> >>>
> >>>Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
> >>>his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....
> >>
> >>My list of those before him showed what I think. RH

> >
> >You call that an answer? The question was what did you think of his
> >innings against Australia and your answer was to list a number players
> >you think better qualified for England A duty. That's not an answer,
> >or at the very least, it's the answer to a different question.
> >

> My list showed how far he was from rational consideration. RH
>
> >Why are you being so dis-courteous to Larry?

>
> Really? How? RH



By not answering my simple question dude! You are a worse dodger than
Rodger!

OK, forget about consideration for any future England team. I was very
confused as to why you highlighted Cook's innings of 200 odd against the
Aussies but did not ever mention his partner Bopara's innings in the very
same game of 135 or so. Any comment on his innings? Does he show great
potential to go on to greater things in higher levels in the future?

Laz



> --
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> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk



 
  #18
Larry de Silva
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas


"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:isCX3lFzvEHDFwoz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> In message <R7WSe.181$dv4.5320@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
> <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
> >>
> >> Mmm....let me think of all those under 26 batsmen better qualified by
> >> actual performance: Cook, Hildreth, M Wood (Som), Jefferson, Murchall,
> >> Gidman, Sayers, Troughton, Yardy, Clarke... RH

> >
> >
> >Tell me dude, is it a bad habit of you not answering direct questions,
> >is it a lack of comprehension or something else? I'm NOT asking you
> >about better qualified players RH. I just want to know of what you
> >thought of Bopara's 135 against Australia, as you only mentioned the
> >great innings of his partner, Cook. Also, in your opinion, is Bopara
> >good enough to at least make the England A team? Either way, WHY?
> >
> >I cant make it any simpler than that.

>
> You have already had your reply. RH



No all you have done is to pathetically avoid answering a simple question. I
think you pretend to know more about English cricket than you do if you cant
even answer a simple question about an innings of 135 or so from a young
English player. At least with Sri Lankan players and issues, I answer all
questions and give it my best shot instead of avoiding it like a sissy.

Laz





> --
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> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk



 
  #19
Simon Pleasants
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:27:10 +0100, Robert Henderson
<philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In message <clsqh15kmthd541d07dk3fl036rmes96so@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
><plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>>On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 09:43:07 +0100, Robert Henderson
>><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>In message <o4kqh11p4obbcc32iu9m1u2dc0oqs829jt@4ax.com>, Simon Pleasants
>>><plesbit@hotmail.com> writes
>>>>On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 14:45:23 +0100, Robert Henderson
>>>><philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You have already had your reply. RH
>>>>
>>>>Then please point me to the bit where you answered what you thought of
>>>>his innings against Australia. I seem to have misplaced it....
>>>
>>>My list of those before him showed what I think. RH

>>
>>You call that an answer? The question was what did you think of his
>>innings against Australia and your answer was to list a number players
>>you think better qualified for England A duty. That's not an answer,
>>or at the very least, it's the answer to a different question.

>
>My list showed how far he was from rational consideration. RH


Yes - the answer to a different question. Your answer to the original
question of what did you think of *that* innings remains unanswered.

>>Why are you being so dis-courteous to Larry?

>
>Really? How? RH


By not answering the question properly.
 
  #20
Robert Henderson
 
Default Re: Essex 502-4 - here's the future He-Sheilas

In message <HzgTe.427$Qy5.6080@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
<larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
>
>By not answering my simple question dude! You are a worse dodger than
>Rodger!
>
>OK, forget about consideration for any future England team. I was very
>confused as to why you highlighted Cook's innings of 200 odd against
>the Aussies but did not ever mention his partner Bopara's innings in
>the very same game of 135 or so. Any comment on his innings? Does he
>show great potential to go on to greater things in higher levels in the
>future?


He has done very little so far in FC cricket. RH
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  #21
BAC
 
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"Larry de Silva" <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:qDgTe.429$Qy5.6317@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>
> "Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:isCX3lFzvEHDFwoz@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> > In message <R7WSe.181$dv4.5320@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au>, Larry de Silva
> > <larrydesilva@ozemail.com.au> writes
> > >>
> > >> Mmm....let me think of all those under 26 batsmen better qualified

by
> > >> actual performance: Cook, Hildreth, M Wood (Som), Jefferson,

Murchall,
> > >> Gidman, Sayers, Troughton, Yardy, Clarke... RH
> > >
> > >
> > >Tell me dude, is it a bad habit of you not answering direct questions,
> > >is it a lack of comprehension or something else? I'm NOT asking you
> > >about better qualified players RH. I just want to know of what you
> > >thought of Bopara's 135 against Australia, as you only mentioned the
> > >great innings of his partner, Cook. Also, in your opinion, is Bopara
> > >good enough to at least make the England A team? Either way, WHY?
> > >
> > >I cant make it any simpler than that.

> >
> > You have already had your reply. RH

>
>
> No all you have done is to pathetically avoid answering a simple question.

I
> think you pretend to know more about English cricket than you do if you

cant
> even answer a simple question about an innings of 135 or so from a young
> English player. At least with Sri Lankan players and issues, I answer all
> questions and give it my best shot instead of avoiding it like a sissy.
>


Take no notice of RH. Bopara is a classy looking batsman, and I don't think
many impartial and objective judges would dispute that he is amongst the
current crop of younger players with the potential to do very well in the
game. Whether he will fully realise that potential remains to be seen. I
didn't see his innings against the Australians, so can't comment, but it
sounds like most batsmen would like to take that wicket around with them, if
they could :-)


 
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