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  #1
Robert Henderson
 
Default Benaud as a player

Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will not
remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
outstanding cricketer.

His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23
centuries and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.

His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three centuries
and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.

He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he
was originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman
anywhere - his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational
- and a leg spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken
100 or more Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower
average and Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to
bowl at. ).
RH


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  #2
Malcolm Singh
 
Default Re: Benaud as a player

You forgot to mention that he was a fantastic captain as well.

Malcolm.

"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:KFLNt3ZUDaHDFwPl@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will not
> remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
> outstanding cricketer.
>
> His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23 centuries
> and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.
>
> His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three centuries
> and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.
>
> He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he was
> originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman anywhere -
> his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational - and a leg
> spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken 100 or more
> Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower average and
> Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to bowl at. ).
> RH
>
>
> --
> Robert Henderson
> Blair Scandal website: http://www.geocities.com/blairscandal/
> Personal website: http://www.anywhere.demon.co.uk



 
  #3
Jan Buxton
 
Default Re: Benaud as a player


Robert Henderson wrote:
> was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he
> was originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman
> anywhere - his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational
> - and a leg spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken
> 100 or more Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower
> average and Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to
> bowl at. ).
> RH


Er...neither has Warne. He hasn't played Bangladesh, and 1 game vs
Zimbabwe, taking 6 wickets @ 22.83.

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  #4
JP
 
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"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:KFLNt3ZUDaHDFwPl@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will not
> remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
> outstanding cricketer.
>
> His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23 centuries
> and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.
>
> His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three centuries
> and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.
>
> He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he was
> originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman anywhere -
> his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational - and a leg
> spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken 100 or more
> Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower average and
> Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to bowl at. ).
> RH


A good point, badly made.
Warne has never bowled in a test against Bangladesh and only once against
Zimbabwe,taking 6 for 137 which impoved his test average by the staggeringly
massive margin of 0.017


 
  #5
carlos
 
Default Re: Benaud as a player

Why would that twat state the truth when a lie gives him a reason to state
that 'things were better in my day, when racism ruled through the UK'.


 
  #6
declan_murphy@hotmail.com
 
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JP wrote:
> "Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:KFLNt3ZUDaHDFwPl@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> > Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will not
> > remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
> > outstanding cricketer.
> >
> > His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23 centuries
> > and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.
> >
> > His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three centuries
> > and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.
> >
> > He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he was
> > originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman anywhere -
> > his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational - and a leg
> > spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken 100 or more
> > Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower average and
> > Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to bowl at. ).
> > RH

>
> A good point, badly made.
> Warne has never bowled in a test against Bangladesh and only once against
> Zimbabwe,taking 6 for 137 which impoved his test average by the staggeringly
> massive margin of 0.017


Robert is (how unusual) being unfair. It is true that Warne only played
the Zimbos once and never had the opportunity to play Bangladesh, but
Benaud got to play England 27 times out of 63 tests at an average
against England of 31.81, whereas Warne has had only had the
opportunity of 30 tests against England out of a career of 127 for an
average against England of 22.44. Problem for Robert is that if we look
at Benaud's figures (sans Bangladesh/Zimbabwe) and Warne's figures
(sans England), Warne is still the better bowler - both at home and
away. To some extent it helps explains why Benaud loves Warne's arse
(metaphorically speaking).

Benaud was always the better batsman though, and we haven't had the
opportunity to see if Warne could produce the goods in test cricket if
he was also Captain.

Regards Declan,
Okazaki, Japan

 
  #7
BAC
 
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<declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126106828.491370.231050@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> JP wrote:
> > "Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:KFLNt3ZUDaHDFwPl@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> > > Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will

not
> > > remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
> > > outstanding cricketer.
> > >
> > > His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23

centuries
> > > and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.
> > >
> > > His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three

centuries
> > > and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.
> > >
> > > He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he

was
> > > originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman

anywhere -
> > > his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational - and a

leg
> > > spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken 100 or more
> > > Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower average and
> > > Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to bowl

at. ).
> > > RH

> >
> > A good point, badly made.
> > Warne has never bowled in a test against Bangladesh and only once

against
> > Zimbabwe,taking 6 for 137 which impoved his test average by the

staggeringly
> > massive margin of 0.017

>
> Robert is (how unusual) being unfair. It is true that Warne only played
> the Zimbos once and never had the opportunity to play Bangladesh, but
> Benaud got to play England 27 times out of 63 tests at an average
> against England of 31.81, whereas Warne has had only had the
> opportunity of 30 tests against England out of a career of 127 for an
> average against England of 22.44. Problem for Robert is that if we look
> at Benaud's figures (sans Bangladesh/Zimbabwe) and Warne's figures
> (sans England), Warne is still the better bowler - both at home and
> away. To some extent it helps explains why Benaud loves Warne's arse
> (metaphorically speaking).


Benaud rates Warne as the greatest leggie of all time, and who are we to
dispute that judgement? His great experience of the game in general and the
art of leg spin in particular, makes him perhaps uniquely qualified in that
respect. It's difficult comparing cricketers of different eras merely by
reference to career statistics, though, because things do change, e.g. the
calibre of the opposition, rules on covering pitches, pitch maintenance,
construction of cricket balls, equipment, lbw laws, etc.

But some stats are simply outstanding, and I doubt many leg spin bowlers
will eclipse Warne's test wicket taking record.
>



 
  #8
Robert Henderson
 
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In message <1126106828.491370.231050@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
declan_murphy@hotmail.com writes
>
>Robert is (how unusual) being unfair. It is true that Warne only played
>the Zimbos once and never had the opportunity to play Bangladesh, but
>Benaud got to play England 27 times out of 63 tests at an average
>against England of 31.81, whereas Warne has had only had the
>opportunity of 30 tests against England out of a career of 127 for an
>average against England of 22.44.


Benaud had to bowl against Hutton, Compton, Hutton, Edrick (W),
Washbrook, Simpson, Watson, Bailey, Richardson, May, Cowdrey, Dexter,
Barrington, Subba Row, Pullar, MJK Smith. Care to produce an equivalent
galaxy for Warne in Ashes Tests? RH ,
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  #9
David North
 
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"Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In message <1126106828.491370.231050@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>,
> declan_murphy@hotmail.com writes
>>
>>Robert is (how unusual) being unfair. It is true that Warne only played the
>>Zimbos once and never had the opportunity to play Bangladesh, but Benaud got
>>to play England 27 times out of 63 tests at an average against England of
>>31.81, whereas Warne has had only had the opportunity of 30 tests against
>>England out of a career of 127 for an average against England of 22.44.

>
> Benaud had to bowl against Hutton, Compton, Hutton,


Only one Hutton!

> Edrick (W), Washbrook, Simpson, Watson, Bailey, Richardson, May, Cowdrey,
> Dexter, Barrington, Subba Row, Pullar,


.... Sheppard, Graveney, Parfitt.

> MJK Smith.


Not that it matters, but I reckon Benaud probably never bowled to Smith in a
Test. They only met once, at Edgbaston in 1961. Smith was out second ball to
Mackay in the first innings and in the second, Simpson took the wicket that
brought Smith in, and the match ended one run later.
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  #10
David North
 
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<declan_murphy@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1126106828.491370.231050@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> JP wrote:
>> "Robert Henderson" <philip@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:KFLNt3ZUDaHDFwPl@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> > Richie Benaud has been on our TV screens for so long that most will not
>> > remember him as a player. This is a great shame because he was an
>> > outstanding cricketer.
>> >
>> > His career figures are 259 matches 11719 runs at 36.50 with 23 centuries
>> > and 254 catches and 945 wickets at 24.73.
>> >
>> > His Test figures are 63 matches 2101 runs at 24.45 with three centuries
>> > and 65 catches plus 248 wickets at 27.03.
>> >
>> > He was a most dashing middle order batsmanwith an upright style - he was
>> > originally selected by NSW as a batsman - a superb fieldsman anywhere -
>> > his catch to dismiss Cowdrey in 1956 at Lords was sensational - and a leg
>> > spinner out of the top drawer ( of leggies who have taken 100 or more
>> > Test wickets only O'Reilly, Grimmett and Warne have lower average and
>> > Benaud unlike Warne did not have Bangladesh and Zimbabwe to bowl at. ).
>> > RH

>>
>> A good point, badly made.
>> Warne has never bowled in a test against Bangladesh and only once against
>> Zimbabwe,taking 6 for 137 which impoved his test average by the staggeringly
>> massive margin of 0.017

>
> Robert is (how unusual) being unfair. It is true that Warne only played
> the Zimbos once and never had the opportunity to play Bangladesh, but
> Benaud got to play England 27 times out of 63 tests at an average
> against England of 31.81, whereas Warne has had only had the
> opportunity of 30 tests against England out of a career of 127 for an
> average against England of 22.44. Problem for Robert is that if we look
> at Benaud's figures (sans Bangladesh/Zimbabwe) and Warne's figures
> (sans England),


Now try that again.

>Warne is still the better bowler - both at home and
> away. To some extent it helps explains why Benaud loves Warne's arse
> (metaphorically speaking).


Very funny </sarcasm>. Of course, Benaud's average was higher against England
than against anyone else. His best average was against India, which is, of
course, the country against which Warne has had the most difficulty by far.
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