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Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me!
I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly medium pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). What does everyone else think? Richard |
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"Richard Dixon" <richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote in message news:3o7t86F4j82oU1@individual.net... > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly > medium > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > > This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least > 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > > What does everyone else think? > > Richard Personally I think a lot depends on the toss, if we can bat first and score 400 plus, we won't lose. That's all I'm saying. :-) Dave |
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Richard Dixon wrote: > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! Yes, I expect much better from Australia, the series will finish 2-2, barring rain. -- Jan |
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"Jan Buxton" <janbuxton@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1126093483.736068.11380@g14g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com... > > Richard Dixon wrote: > > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > Yes, I expect much better from Australia, the series will finish 2-2, > barring rain. > I think I also go with the 2-2 final result. England seem to me to have had the balance of the luck so far in the series, except for the rain in the drawn match (a big 'except' I know). I don't think that Warne will allow his final Ashes series to end in a series loss, and if one man can win a match it's him. Jim |
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I reckon a draw seems likely what with the bad weather hanging around,
but I think the Aussies will have the better of the match for the reasons you lot have already said. So England will take the Ashes 2-1, which I don't think would be too unfair a result... |
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Bloody pessimistic you lot are !!!
Me an England win , therefore a 3 - 1 triumph |
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On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 13:30:12 +0100, "jim brant"
<jim@brantj.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >"Jan Buxton" <janbuxton@gmail.com> wrote in message >news:1126093483.736068.11380@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com... >> >> Richard Dixon wrote: >> > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! >> >> Yes, I expect much better from Australia, the series will finish 2-2, >> barring rain. >> >I think I also go with the 2-2 final result. England seem to me to have had >the balance of the luck so far in the series, except for the rain in the >drawn match (a big 'except' I know). I don't think that Warne will allow his >final Ashes series to end in a series loss, and if one man can win a match >it's him. > >Jim > Anything could happen. Australia must win, and England want to win. Must do is a stronger master than want to, but twenty wickets is a hard enough task at the rump of a high energy series, and long season. Harold Bird called 2-1 on the radio yesterday morning. I'm just going to watch the match, and hope I get to see Warne and old Glen McGrath getting tonked around the oval for a while. max.it |
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On 7 Sep 2005 10:20:54 GMT, Richard Dixon
<richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote: >Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > >I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going >walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly medium >pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and >Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > >This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least >3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > >What does everyone else think? > >Richard Another pessimist here, I'm afraid. I think it'll be 2-2 as well. I just don't quite think we've got what it takes to go the whole way (this time, at least), particularly with a weakened bowling attack. I just hope we don't end up beating ourselves with the pressure. |
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"Richard Dixon" <richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote in message news:3o7t86F4j82oU1@individual.net... > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly > medium > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > > This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least > 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > > What does everyone else think? > > Richard A thumping win for England.No one seems to be prepared to believe what they've seen with their own eyes these last few weeks. United Road |
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Richard Dixon wrote:
> Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly medium > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least > 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > What does everyone else think? *IF* the forecasts are right, the weather may well be the most significant factor. However, given the nature of this series it's pretty much impossible to predict the final test, expect more drama. McGrath is not fully fit, that much is obvious. -- |
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In uk.sport.cricket on Wed, 7 Sep 2005 at 10:20:54, Richard Dixon wrote
: > >What does everyone else think? Rain-affected draw. -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham |
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In uk.sport.cricket on Wed, 7 Sep 2005 at 16:21:45, Luke Curtis wrote :
> >The big difference is that our best bowler is out and their best >bowler is back. Their best bowler, Warne, has been in every match. -- Paul Hyett, Cheltenham |
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Simon Pleasants wrote:
> > I just hope we don't end up beating ourselves with the pressure. We're bound to....its the one thing we excel at. |
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"Richard Dixon" <richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote in message news:3o7t86F4j82oU1@individual.net... > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly > medium > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > > This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least > 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > > What does everyone else think? > with the match beautifully balanced, the fuel protestors will dig the pitch up overnight. |
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"JP" <noone@noone.com> wrote in message news:431f3f2b$0$17468$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net... > > "Richard Dixon" <richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote in message > news:3o7t86F4j82oU1@individual.net... > > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > > > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly > > medium > > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. > > > > This is of course weather-permitting (and it still looks okay for at least > > 3 uninterrupted days' cricket from where I'm standing). > > > > What does everyone else think? > > > with the match beautifully balanced, > > > > > > > > the fuel protestors will dig the pitch up overnight. > > .....and then blame the government for losing the Ashes. In which they will of course be wrong, as in most things. Jim |
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Richard Dixon wrote:
> What does everyone else think? I don't see how you can make a prediction. In case no one's noticed, the side batting first has won or had a strong upper hand in *every* Test. That happens to have been England three times to Australia's one, even if one of those three was a crazy gift from Ponting. So the crucial factor is the toss, and that is in the lap of luck. If Vaughan wins the toss, England are odds on to get the Ashes, even with a draw. If Ponting wins the toss and bats, hold onto your seats and fingernails. Whatever happens, the Aussies will fight. |
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"Richard Dixon" <richard.dixon1975@blueyonder^spam^.co.uk> wrote in message news:3o7t86F4j82oU1@individual.net... > Just wondering what everyone thinks and if they're as pessimistic as me! > > I personally think with S Jones out and Harmison's form distinctly going > walkabout and the prospect of the replacement being a "dibbly dobbly > medium > pacer" (copyright G Boycott, sometime in the 1990s) - and also McGrath and > Warne playing for Australia, I reckon Australia should win. You're picking against form. England have been on fire through the last four tests. Their self confidence seems a bit shakey sometimes but the fickle weather will help them. Sadly, the greatest series I've seen will be a rain interupted draw and England will take the Ashes from the Aussies. (even without their best bowler Jones) cheers. |
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lab wrote:
> You're picking against form. England have been on fire through the last four > tests. Their self confidence seems a bit shakey sometimes but the fickle > weather will help them. They were on fire in the first test? The one question mark over England is their second innings performances, none of which have been good, a couple of which have been pretty appalling. That's why winning the toss will determine the outcome of not only the test, but the Ashes itself. |
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> 2nd innings at Old Trafford? 6-280 Not that great when you consider Australia made 9-371 batting last to force the draw. Others: Test 1, Lords, all out 180 Test 2, Edgbaston, all out 182 Test 4, Trent Bridge, 7-125 Out for less than 200 75% of the time. England had better hope Australia doesn't get a good first innings lead .... or it rains. |
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On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 08:36:17 +0100, "Someone else"
<Whatistoyou@here.co.uk> wrote: >But at Old Trafford there was some large slogging going on towards the end >of the innings and wickets started to fall. There was some large slogging going on yesterday and wickets started to fall. Vaughan and Pietersen's for example. -- Alison |
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In article <1G7Ue.27268$FA3.5740@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
no@nospam.com says... > united74 wrote: > > > 2nd innings at Old Trafford? > > 6-280 > > Not that great when you consider Australia made 9-371 batting last to > force the draw. > > Others: > > Test 1, Lords, all out 180 > Test 2, Edgbaston, all out 182 > Test 4, Trent Bridge, 7-125 > > Out for less than 200 75% of the time. > Perhaps you can explain how you think England could possibly have scored more than 200 in the second innings of the 4th test. -- Pete Gray |
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"Pete Gray" <news@redbadge.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8b9a69e823455c9896eb@news.zen.co.uk... > In article <1G7Ue.27268$FA3.5740@news-server.bigpond.net.au>, > no@nospam.com says... >> united74 wrote: >> >> > 2nd innings at Old Trafford? >> >> 6-280 >> >> Not that great when you consider Australia made 9-371 batting last to >> force the draw. >> >> Others: >> >> Test 1, Lords, all out 180 >> Test 2, Edgbaston, all out 182 >> Test 4, Trent Bridge, 7-125 >> >> Out for less than 200 75% of the time. >> > > Perhaps you can explain how you think England could possibly have scored > more than 200 in the second innings of the 4th test. I assume that he meant that they wouldn't have made 200 given the chance, which is a reasonable assumption. -- David North Email to this address will be deleted as spam Use usenetATlaneHYPHENfarm.fsnet.co.uk |