Re: The Usenet Swarm of Naysayism

Is it any wonder that we're in the no-win fix we're in?

The usenet infinite black hole of all-knowing naysayism has an event
horizon, whereas everything good or bad goes in, but absolutely
nothing positive or even the least bit constructive ever comes out,
except more of the same old infomercial spewed crapolla that simply
doesn't rock their good ship LOLLIPOP.

Have any of you smart folks got a clue, as to why exactly is this
extensively Yiddish anti-think-tank of a naysay Usenet from hell so
gosh darn deathly afraid of its own shadow? Or, is it just a genetic
formulated fear of our moon and the planet Venus they're so deathly
afraid of?

What other than Yiddish religion is so absolutely paranoid about our
discovering or much less interacting with other intelligent or even
unintelligent life?

"Scientists ponder plant life on extrasolar planets"
http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...d820b126792d97

I can't but totally agree with the above SETI topic, in that depending
upon the spectrum of available energy that's given and perceived as
light (much of which remains outside the threshold of human vision),
the forms of plant/microbe/animal life should have adapted, as do our
terrestrial diatoms for having taken the fullest advantage of the
given energy spectrum that's in charge of illuminating a given duiatom
friendly environment, including everything from UV starshine to that
of a brown dwarf's nearly black IR/FIR radiating sunlight (aka 'hot
rock') should do just fine as long as their local, solar, moon and
cosmic dosage of gamma and hard-Xrays are within the scope of whatever
such ET DNA or whatever alternative to terrestrial DNA can manage to
cope with.

How about our best of science wizards pondering on behalf of other
intelligent life that's either evolved or having been one way or
another transported onto intrasolar planets or moons, meaning the
likes of Venus or a few of those interesting Saturn or Jupiter moons
seems every bit as worthy as for any little frozen to death Ceres
dwarf of a planet, and otherwise certainly a whole lot better off than
anything Mars could sustain without imported resources.

At most a planet that's hosting intelligent other life needs merely a
brown dwarf of a sun, or at least having a Saturn+ or Jupiter+ class
of a mother planet from which to draw energy from. In the case of
Venus being of such a newish worth of planetology, chances are that it
could have survived an extended interstellar trek pretty much all by
itself, perhaps bringing along its own icy moon and whatever
collection of complex life that's capable of having survived where
most terrestrial forms of life from Earth simply would never have
survived, much less having evolved into the sorts of life as we know
it.

Just because a given planet or moon is not 100% suited to our butt
naked and so often dumbfounded usage as is, doesn't exclude such other
viable orbs from having their own populations of weird or even
somewhat terrestrial forms of survival intelligent other life to
behold, much like there being complex life within terrestrial ice or
having been surviving within certain places similar to being as hot as
hell on Earth, as well as within testy environments under the depths
of an ocean that would just as easily crush your typical submarine
that's accommodating us wussy humans, along with terminating our
extremely frail DNA that hasn't hardly evolved for the better since
the last ice age this planet is ever going to see, that is as long as
we're going to keep putting up with that massive and fast moving moon
of ours that's cruising so close to our home world that's 98.5% fluid
and thus unavoidably affected by those horrific tidal forces at play.

As I'd said countless times before, a humanly visual spectrum of
sunlight alone doesn't insure life, but it certainly makes our lives a
whole lot more interesting being able to see, rather than limited by
braille or via other than our highly evolved and/or intelligently
designed sensory capability of sight. Just think of how freaking
difficult it would be to falsely accuse Muslims of having WMD, much
less of our going into Iraq as based upon a braille method of taking
control over all of that Muslim oil, as having been our primary
objective in the first place. If we're in the dark (sort of speak),
such as illuminated by only UV or IR photons, as for such a blind
species we'd be hard pressed to cultivate such arrogance, greed and
faith-based bigotry.

Even our moon's nearby L1 would become a rather pointless
accomplishment if we only had those pesky UV and IR photons to work
with, and hadn't evolved to being able to visualize anything via such
spectrums. However, in a typical terrestrial or even physically dark
moon like environment, whereas at least UV energy does cause a great
amount of secondary/recoil photons to form, thus such secondary black-
light having created near-blue illumination might be more than
sufficient for a nocturnal sensitive form of human vision (including
Kodak film), much like what the lower visual extremes could easily
exist on Venus that has more geothermal IR/FIR photons than it knows
what to do with (of course intelligence wise, you'd still have to be
smarter than a hot rock).

Are you smarter than a hot rock?
-
Brad Guth

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BradGuth	Re: The Usenet Swarm of Naysayism Is it any wonder that we're in the no-win fix we're in? The usenet infinite black hole of all-knowing naysayism has an event horizon, whereas everything good or bad goes in, but absolutely nothing positive or even the least bit constructive ever comes out, except more of the same old infomercial spewed crapolla that simply doesn't rock their good ship LOLLIPOP. Have any of you smart folks got a clue, as to why exactly is this extensively Yiddish anti-think-tank of a naysay Usenet from hell so gosh darn deathly afraid of its own shadow? Or, is it just a genetic formulated fear of our moon and the planet Venus they're so deathly afraid of? What other than Yiddish religion is so absolutely paranoid about our discovering or much less interacting with other intelligent or even unintelligent life? "Scientists ponder plant life on extrasolar planets" http://groups.google.com/group/sci.a...d820b126792d97 I can't but totally agree with the above SETI topic, in that depending upon the spectrum of available energy that's given and perceived as light (much of which remains outside the threshold of human vision), the forms of plant/microbe/animal life should have adapted, as do our terrestrial diatoms for having taken the fullest advantage of the given energy spectrum that's in charge of illuminating a given duiatom friendly environment, including everything from UV starshine to that of a brown dwarf's nearly black IR/FIR radiating sunlight (aka 'hot rock') should do just fine as long as their local, solar, moon and cosmic dosage of gamma and hard-Xrays are within the scope of whatever such ET DNA or whatever alternative to terrestrial DNA can manage to cope with. How about our best of science wizards pondering on behalf of other intelligent life that's either evolved or having been one way or another transported onto intrasolar planets or moons, meaning the likes of Venus or a few of those interesting Saturn or Jupiter moons seems every bit as worthy as for any little frozen to death Ceres dwarf of a planet, and otherwise certainly a whole lot better off than anything Mars could sustain without imported resources. At most a planet that's hosting intelligent other life needs merely a brown dwarf of a sun, or at least having a Saturn+ or Jupiter+ class of a mother planet from which to draw energy from. In the case of Venus being of such a newish worth of planetology, chances are that it could have survived an extended interstellar trek pretty much all by itself, perhaps bringing along its own icy moon and whatever collection of complex life that's capable of having survived where most terrestrial forms of life from Earth simply would never have survived, much less having evolved into the sorts of life as we know it. Just because a given planet or moon is not 100% suited to our butt naked and so often dumbfounded usage as is, doesn't exclude such other viable orbs from having their own populations of weird or even somewhat terrestrial forms of survival intelligent other life to behold, much like there being complex life within terrestrial ice or having been surviving within certain places similar to being as hot as hell on Earth, as well as within testy environments under the depths of an ocean that would just as easily crush your typical submarine that's accommodating us wussy humans, along with terminating our extremely frail DNA that hasn't hardly evolved for the better since the last ice age this planet is ever going to see, that is as long as we're going to keep putting up with that massive and fast moving moon of ours that's cruising so close to our home world that's 98.5% fluid and thus unavoidably affected by those horrific tidal forces at play. As I'd said countless times before, a humanly visual spectrum of sunlight alone doesn't insure life, but it certainly makes our lives a whole lot more interesting being able to see, rather than limited by braille or via other than our highly evolved and/or intelligently designed sensory capability of sight. Just think of how freaking difficult it would be to falsely accuse Muslims of having WMD, much less of our going into Iraq as based upon a braille method of taking control over all of that Muslim oil, as having been our primary objective in the first place. If we're in the dark (sort of speak), such as illuminated by only UV or IR photons, as for such a blind species we'd be hard pressed to cultivate such arrogance, greed and faith-based bigotry. Even our moon's nearby L1 would become a rather pointless accomplishment if we only had those pesky UV and IR photons to work with, and hadn't evolved to being able to visualize anything via such spectrums. However, in a typical terrestrial or even physically dark moon like environment, whereas at least UV energy does cause a great amount of secondary/recoil photons to form, thus such secondary black- light having created near-blue illumination might be more than sufficient for a nocturnal sensitive form of human vision (including Kodak film), much like what the lower visual extremes could easily exist on Venus that has more geothermal IR/FIR photons than it knows what to do with (of course intelligence wise, you'd still have to be smarter than a hot rock). Are you smarter than a hot rock? - Brad Guth