oriel36

On May 24, 2:02 pm, rich...@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Tobin) wrote:
> In article <1180004128.242773.246...@h2g2000hsg.googlegroups. com>,
>
> oriel36 <kelleher.ger...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >Here is an image of Venus as it overtakes the slower orbitally moving
> >Earth with the central Sun in the background -
>
> >http://www.kwastronomy.com/images/Ve...sit-3-1-2c.jpg
>
> >The image above of Venus, in an inner orbital circuit,overtaking the
> >Earth is so rare that it will only happen once in a lifetime ,the
> >next time in 2012.
>
> Venus overtakes the earth every 584 days. Presumably you are
> referring to a transit of Venus, when it passes exactly between the
> earth and the Sun.

The only acceptablle,do you hear this,the only acceptable view of the
event is that the faster orbital motion of Venus overetakes the slower
orbital motion of the Earth with the central stationary Sun as the
backdrop.

The reason astronomy does not exist for the rest of humanity is that
very feebleminded people who treat astronomy solely as an exercise in
magnification cannot rise to the level of intutive intelligence which
was present in astronomers 500 years ago.The event where the faster
orbital motion of Mercury overtook the slower orbital motion of the
Earth last November barely was heard as a news item because the only
authority availible describes it as a planet passing against the Sun
with no mention of the Earth's orbital motion.


As you say, this will next happen in 2012, but it
> it's hardly a once-in-a-lifetime event since the photo you link to was
> taken in 2004. In fact, for most people it's either a
> never-in-a-lifetime or a twice-in-a-lifetime event.
>
> -- Richard
> --
> "Consideration shall be given to the need for as many as 32 characters
> in some alphabets" - X3.4, 1963.

It will be a once in a lifetime event for people insofar as that
orbital event in 2012 will be the first time it will be presented as
an affirmation of Copernican reasoning based on orbital
comparisons.The faster orbital motion of the Earth accounts for the
slower forward motion of the outer planets in our common heliocentric
orbits while the contemporary affirmation of a common heliocentric
orbit using the inner planets should have been these 'transit'
events.Neither Copernicus or Kepler would have telescopes to affirm
heliocentricity this way but modern imaging can.

The truly horrific destruction of Western astronomy is due to the
inability to correctly identify that the faster orbital motion of the
Earth overtaking the slower outer planets accounts for a common
heliocentric orbital motion -

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct," Newton

Looking to the outer planets Copernicus accounedt for heliocentricity
that way and using the faster orbital motion of the inner planets and
the transits the modern viewer can now account for heliocentric orbits
by this means.The dominant and useless contemporary view you
originating with and only with Newton,you can do nothing with -

" For to the earth planetary motions appear sometimes direct,
sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from the sun
they are always seen direct," Newton

Go ahead and try and defend the stupidity of Newton,it means that
another generation will be denied the appreciation of Copernican
reasoning.