sagar

http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogcat...spx?catid=4856

Festival celebrated since ages in Indian sub continent is benchmak of
its age old and historic mark which reflects the pernnial flow of
importance of festivals in our daily life.Most of Ihe Indian festivals
are having touch of purity,togetherenss,unity in celebrationalong with
children,young,old peoples,exchanging gifts,prayers,community
Lunch,lastly the TRUTH is the reality,rest is momentarily,bubble.The
purpose is to understand the whole circle of life in ones- happiness .
Happy Diwali to all Readers.

Paul

sagar wrote:
> http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogcat...spx?catid=4856
>
> Festival celebrated since ages in Indian sub continent is benchmak of
> its age old and historic mark which reflects the pernnial flow of
> importance of festivals in our daily life.Most of Ihe Indian festivals
> are having touch of purity,togetherenss,unity in celebrationalong with
> children,young,old peoples,exchanging gifts,prayers,community
> Lunch,lastly the TRUTH is the reality,rest is momentarily,bubble.The
> purpose is to understand the whole circle of life in ones- happiness .
> Happy Diwali to all Readers.

Why does it have to be so noisy? You are not adapting to UK culture in
the way you pursue this festival. native Brits don't like noise, and a
lot of fuss used
to be made if fireworks were set off any time but Nov 5th. Now you come

along with diwali and scare us and our poor pets for weeks on end...
and then comes Nov 5th!
-------------------
Labour MPs seem to be making a lot of fuss about Muslim veils at the
moment. Can't say they've ever bothered me. What DOES bother me is the
Hindu festival of Diwali - which is just starting as I write this. I
know this because there is an awful racket of fireworks going off in
surrounding gardens. If it goes like last year I know I'm in for three
weeks of painful bangs going off each night as the Hindu festival runs
into the protestant Christian festival against Roman Catholics around
Nov. 5th. This peace loving atheist would just like a bit of peace! If
it was me setting off fireworks in praise of Dawkins I bet I'd have the
police knocking on my door within the hour. Note, I'm not saying Hindus
shouldn't have this festival - just have it quietly! It's meant to be a
festival of light, not of noise. More responsioble Hindus are against
the noise it generates:

http://www.hindujagruti.org/diwali/

As this site says: "Those who burst firecrackers are Anti-Social,
Anti-national and Anti-religion! ... Noise from crackers, full of
'tama' component, attract distressing energies."

sagar

Paul wrote:
> sagar wrote:
> > http://www.sulekha.com/blogs/blogcat...spx?catid=4856
> >
> > Festival celebrated since ages in Indian sub continent is benchmak of
> > its age old and historic mark which reflects the pernnial flow of
> > importance of festivals in our daily life.Most of Ihe Indian festivals
> > are having touch of purity,togetherenss,unity in celebrationalong with
> > children,young,old peoples,exchanging gifts,prayers,community
> > Lunch,lastly the TRUTH is the reality,rest is momentarily,bubble.The
> > purpose is to understand the whole circle of life in ones- happiness .
> > Happy Diwali to all Readers.
>
> Why does it have to be so noisy? You are not adapting to UK culture in
> the way you pursue this festival. native Brits don't like noise, and a
> lot of fuss used
> to be made if fireworks were set off any time but Nov 5th. Now you come
>
> along with diwali and scare us and our poor pets for weeks on end...
> and then comes Nov 5th!
> -------------------
> Labour MPs seem to be making a lot of fuss about Muslim veils at the
> moment. Can't say they've ever bothered me. What DOES bother me is the
> Hindu festival of Diwali - which is just starting as I write this. I
> know this because there is an awful racket of fireworks going off in
> surrounding gardens. If it goes like last year I know I'm in for three
> weeks of painful bangs going off each night as the Hindu festival runs
> into the protestant Christian festival against Roman Catholics around
> Nov. 5th. This peace loving atheist would just like a bit of peace! If
> it was me setting off fireworks in praise of Dawkins I bet I'd have the
> police knocking on my door within the hour. Note, I'm not saying Hindus
> shouldn't have this festival - just have it quietly! It's meant to be a
> festival of light, not of noise. More responsioble Hindus are against
> the noise it generates:
>
> http://www.hindujagruti.org/diwali/
>
> As this site says: "Those who burst firecrackers are Anti-Social,
> Anti-national and Anti-religion! ... Noise from crackers, full of
> 'tama' component, attract distressing energies."

Noise of crackers is bad-its salute only-as on national event.
Just limit the timing... two hours ...ok

Paul

> Noise of crackers is bad-its salute only-as on national event.
> Just limit the timing... two hours ...ok

The problem is that in a multi-cultural society too many nights
become 'make a noise' night. Incoming cultures need to be
very careful or even supporters of multi-culturalism (like me) will
turn
against them. For instance, I have written letters of support
(in the past) for Hindus wanting to build a temple in the locality.
But because of unthinking Hindu families setting off crackers every
night for three weeks lasyt year no way would I do the same again!

Note, I was reading Bryan Magee's Confessions of a Philiosopher
on Friday night which has pages praising the Upanishads -- so
the noisy Hindus were actually interfering with my exploration
of Hindu philosophy! Leaders in your community should stress
that crackers are anti-social, anti-religion, anti-peace.

Note, I am just as much against the 'festivities' on Nov 5th. Why
can't we all have meditation nights on such evenings instead
of disturbing the common peace.

P.S. Two hours would be bearable - but I've already had fours hours of
noise
on both Friday and Saturday night! Time to pull out my books on Stoic
philosophy
'cause the next three weeks are likely to be tough...

sagar

Paul wrote:
> > Noise of crackers is bad-its salute only-as on national event.
> > Just limit the timing... two hours ...ok
>
> The problem is that in a multi-cultural society too many nights
> become 'make a noise' night. Incoming cultures need to be
> very careful or even supporters of multi-culturalism (like me) will
> turn
> against them. For instance, I have written letters of support
> (in the past) for Hindus wanting to build a temple in the locality.
> But because of unthinking Hindu families setting off crackers every
> night for three weeks lasyt year no way would I do the same again!
>
> Note, I was reading Bryan Magee's Confessions of a Philiosopher
> on Friday night which has pages praising the Upanishads -- so
> the noisy Hindus were actually interfering with my exploration
> of Hindu philosophy! Leaders in your community should stress
> that crackers are anti-social, anti-religion, anti-peace.
>
> Note, I am just as much against the 'festivities' on Nov 5th. Why
> can't we all have meditation nights on such evenings instead
> of disturbing the common peace.
>
> P.S. Two hours would be bearable - but I've already had fours hours of
> noise
> on both Friday and Saturday night! Time to pull out my books on Stoic
> philosophy
> 'cause the next three weeks are likely to be tough...
In India crackers are only on diwali day,rest days are casesof isolated
ones.
But In UK they want to prove themselves hindus by firing crackers for
week.

sagar

sagar wrote:
> Paul wrote:
> > > Noise of crackers is bad-its salute only-as on national event.
> > > Just limit the timing... two hours ...ok
> >
> > The problem is that in a multi-cultural society too many nights
> > become 'make a noise' night. Incoming cultures need to be
> > very careful or even supporters of multi-culturalism (like me) will
> > turn
> > against them. For instance, I have written letters of support
> > (in the past) for Hindus wanting to build a temple in the locality.
> > But because of unthinking Hindu families setting off crackers every
> > night for three weeks lasyt year no way would I do the same again!
> >
> > Note, I was reading Bryan Magee's Confessions of a Philiosopher
> > on Friday night which has pages praising the Upanishads -- so
> > the noisy Hindus were actually interfering with my exploration
> > of Hindu philosophy! Leaders in your community should stress
> > that crackers are anti-social, anti-religion, anti-peace.
> >
> > Note, I am just as much against the 'festivities' on Nov 5th. Why
> > can't we all have meditation nights on such evenings instead
> > of disturbing the common peace.
> >
> > P.S. Two hours would be bearable - but I've already had fours hours of
> > noise
> > on both Friday and Saturday night! Time to pull out my books on Stoic
> > philosophy
> > 'cause the next three weeks are likely to be tough...
> In India crackers are only on diwali day,rest days are casesof isolated
> ones.
> But In UK they want to prove themselves hindus by firing crackers for
> week.

Guys craking crackers must be told, each day is not diwali,limit your
crackers for a day or two,as this is unbearable for old and patients in
the locality.
www.Nksagar.com

Paul

> In India crackers are only on diwali day,rest days are casesof isolated
> ones.
> But In UK they want to prove themselves hindus by firing crackers for
> week.

The message it proves is "we are hindus and we don't care about our
neighbours, espeically small animals, children and sick people!" Why do
they want to do this? Can't your holy men put a stop to it? It reduces
the hindu religion to the equivalent of the chanting, noise, and
confusion of British football hooligans.

sagar

Paul wrote:
> > In India crackers are only on diwali day,rest days are casesof isolated
> > ones.
> > But In UK they want to prove themselves hindus by firing crackers for
> > week.
>
> The message it proves is "we are hindus and we don't care about our
> neighbours, espeically small animals, children and sick people!" Why do
> they want to do this? Can't your holy men put a stop to it? It reduces
> the hindu religion to the equivalent of the chanting, noise, and
> confusion of British football hooligans.

Ok I will tell holy -hindus to pray for peace.