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Gregory Franklyn
 
Default Re: Bush's Speech to Undermine Constitution

I think the question is, "Should the christian theory of creation be taught
along side evolution, as science, in schools?" Evolution is a scientific
theory that does have scientific/biological evidence to support it.
Certainly not enough to be considered scientific fact, but some scientific
support, none-the-less. Creation is a religious theory derived from biblical
scriptures that do not have scientific/biological support. One is science
and the other is religion. Teaching creation in science classes, since
passing said class is legally mandated and Hindu and/or Budhist religious
theories are not also taught, it can be argued that such teachings respect
the establishment of a religion, specifically christianity, as opposed to
any other.
Gregory


"Foxinthewhole" <doug9498@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:nzCzc.4337$IF3.3623@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
> Jefferson's statement was only meant to keep a State from forming a State
> Religion.
> If a State Religion had been allowed to be formed it would have made it
> legal to
> discriminate against anyone of a different faith.
>
> We have misinterpreted Jefferson idea to protect religious people of a
> different faith and
> are now discriminating against those who to choose to believe in a

Creator.
> The
> only religion that is not discriminated against today by our government is
> evolution.
> Evolution is a religion , ( a belief system ) that believes there is no
> Creator.
> Evolution is now taught as a fact not a theory. Adolph Hitler once said
> that if you mix
> a little truth in with some lies and tell it long enough people will

believe
> the lie.
>
> There is just as much evidence to prove the possibility of Creation as
> there is Evolution and yet
> Creation is not taught in schools as a possibility. It is legal to teach
> Creation in schools
> but most public schools will not teach Creation because they are afraid of
> being sued
> by the ACLU or someone else who has misinterpreted Jefferson's statement.
>
> http://www.drdino.com for more information about evolution.
>
> The opinions expressed by Drdino.com do not necessarily reflect my onions,
> but he does have
> an interesting view.
>
> Have you ever seen a 9 to 12 foot skeleton of a human.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Cam Kirmser" <ckirmser@xxxkillspamxxxcharter.net> wrote in message
> news:10cm476kd66cnd5@corp.supernews.com...
> > The Founding Fathers intended this nation to be a religiously NEUTRAL
> > country, not religiously NEUTER.
> >
> > Since a single comment in a letter of Jefferson's has fueled the entire
> > "separation of church and state" faux pas, why does the following not

> carry
> > any weight?
> >
> > =======================
> > "Almighty God, Who has given us this good land for our heritage; We

humbly
> > beseech Thee that we may always prove ourselves a people mindful of Thy
> > favor and glad to do Thy will. Bless our land with honorable ministry,

> sound
> > learning, and pure manners. Save us from violence, discord, and

confusion,
> > from pride and arrogance, and from every evil way. Defend our

liberties,
> > and fashion into one united people the multitude brought hither out of

> many
> > kindreds and tongues. Endow with Thy spirit of wisdom those to whom in

Thy
> > Name we entrust the authority of government, that there may be justice

and
> > peace at home, and that through obedience to Thy law, we may show forth

> Thy
> > praise among the nations of the earth. In time of prosperity fill our

> hearts
> > with thankfulness, and in the day of trouble, suffer not our trust in

Thee
> > to fail; all of which we ask through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen."
> > =======================
> >
> > or, this;
> >
> > =======================
> > "Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God."
> > =======================
> >
> > or, this, the inscription on his Memorial;
> >
> > =======================
> > "The God Who gave us life gave us liberty -- can the liberties of a

nation
> > be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the
> > gift of God?"
> > =======================
> >
> > If Jefferson's "separation" comment was so defining of him, why is it

not
> > inscribed in stone on his Memorial?
> >
> >

>
>



 
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toto
 
Default Re: Bush's Speech to Undermine Constitution

On Mon, 5 Jul 2004 08:57:58 -0700, "Gregory Franklyn"
<gregoryf@zcloud.net> wrote:

>I think the question is, "Should the christian theory of creation be taught
>along side evolution, as science, in schools?" Evolution is a scientific
>theory that does have scientific/biological evidence to support it.
>Certainly not enough to be considered scientific fact, but some scientific
>support, none-the-less.


Evolution has an overwhelming amount of scientific evidence
to support that evolution happened despite the attempt by
Creationists to dispute it. Evolution has been observed for
various kinds of plants and animals.

Quoted from the talk.origins faq:

Biological evolution is a change in the genetic characteristics
of a population over time. That this happens is a fact. Biological
evolution also refers to the common descent of living organisms
from shared ancestors. The evidence for historical evolution --
genetic, fossil, anatomical, etc. -- is so overwhelming that it is
also considered a fact. The theory of evolution describes the
mechanisms that cause evolution. So evolution is both a fact
and a theory.

>Creation is a religious theory derived from biblical
>scriptures that do not have scientific/biological support.
>One is science and the other is religion. Teaching creation
>in science classes, since passing said class is legally
>mandated and Hindu and/or Budhist religious theories are
>not also taught, it can be argued that such teachings respect
>the establishment of a religion, specifically christianity, as
>opposed to any other.
>Gregory
>

Well, at least we agree on this.

<snip>


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