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They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. This is near Lake Superior in the USA. -- Jane British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html |
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"Jane Sullivan" <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ufLXQMfFw4hGFAeJ@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk... > > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. There was one at the original Trinity Street station in Bolton, in the goods yard. It was a perfect circle of track used to reverse the order of wagons. (kim) |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 12:12:05 +0100, Jane Sullivan
<spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > >I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > >This is near Lake Superior in the USA. They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn entire passenger trains. Grand Central in New York City has one on each level. Danbury CT has one. |
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"Jane Sullivan" <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:ufLXQMfFw4hGFAeJ@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk... > > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > > -- > Jane > British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden > http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html > Closer to home, there's one at the main marshalling yard in Lille (Deliverance)- it serves to bring trains arriving from the south around to the north end of the reception sidings. Even closer than that, of course, are the arrangements at Eurotunnel's two terminals, which effectively form a continuous run under normal operation. Brian |
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Jane Sullivan wrote:
> > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > There's something similar at Ely to allow trains to run direct from Peterborough to Norwich without having to reverse at Ely station. Chris |
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"Christopher A.Lee" wrote > They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn > entire passenger trains. They also used rather large Wyes for the same purpose. John. |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:01:05 +0100, Chris put finger to keyboard and
typed: >Jane Sullivan wrote: >> >> They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >> >> I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >> 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >> >> This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >> >There's something similar at Ely to allow trains to run direct from >Peterborough to Norwich without having to reverse at Ely station. Ely North junction is a modeller's dream, if you're looking for justification for intense track layouts. Three lines merging into one, three level crossings, a reversing loop and a large industrial complex (with river access as well) alongside the junction make it an ideal setting for a busy layout. Mark -- http://www.MotorwayServices.info - read and share comments and opinons "Look at the stars; look how they shine for you" |
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Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> >>They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >> >>I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >>47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >> >>This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > > They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn > entire passenger trains. > > Grand Central in New York City has one on each level. Danbury CT has > one. The former CN coach yard in Toronto (now occupied by the CN Tower and the Rogers Centre, aka Skydome) used to have one. Turning a passenger train saves having to go through the train and turn all the seats to face front (yes, they still do that). -- Martin S. |
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On Sun, 1 Jul 2007 15:39:22 +0100, "John Turner"
<nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >"Christopher A.Lee" wrote > >> They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn >> entire passenger trains. > >They also used rather large Wyes for the same purpose. Yes. But the discussion was about what they call balloon loops. >John. > |
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On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 11:22:00 -0400, MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:
>Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote: >> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >>> >>>I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >>>47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >>> >>>This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >> >> They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn >> entire passenger trains. >> >> Grand Central in New York City has one on each level. Danbury CT has >> one. > >The former CN coach yard in Toronto (now occupied by the CN Tower and the >Rogers Centre, aka Skydome) used to have one. Turning a passenger train >saves having to go through the train and turn all the seats to face front >(yes, they still do that). And then there was the observation car which would still have to be turned. |
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MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:
> Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote: >> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> >>>They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >>> >>>I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, >>>at 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >>> >>>This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >> >> They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn >> entire passenger trains. >> >> Grand Central in New York City has one on each level. Danbury CT has >> one. > > The former CN coach yard in Toronto (now occupied by the CN Tower and > the Rogers Centre, aka Skydome) used to have one. Turning a passenger > train saves having to go through the train and turn all the seats to > face front (yes, they still do that). Also, the Philadelphia heavy rail Subway-Elevated has two above-ground turning loops, at Market and 69th Streets and at Fern Rock on the Broad Street line. New York has an underground subway loop at South Ferry station at the southern tip of Manhattan. Because of the tight curvature and short platform, a new ADA-compliant terminal is under construction below it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_F...rk_City_Subway) -- Martin S. |
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Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote:
> MartinS <me@my.place> wrote: >>Christopher A.Lee <calee@optonline.net> wrote: >>> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> >>>>They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >>>> >>>>I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, >>>>at 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >>>> >>>>This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >>> >>> They're not that uncommon in the US. Remember, they used to turn >>> entire passenger trains. >>> >>> Grand Central in New York City has one on each level. Danbury CT has >>> one. >> >>The former CN coach yard in Toronto (now occupied by the CN Tower and >>the Rogers Centre, aka Skydome) used to have one. Turning a passenger >>train saves having to go through the train and turn all the seats to >>face front (yes, they still do that). > > And then there was the observation car which would still have to be > turned. Looking at the Google satellite photo, there is a turntable at the new Mimico coach yard that is probably used to turn individual cars. There is also a small wye which may be an industrial spur. -- Martin S. |
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<bhwilliams@letra.co.uk> wrote: > >"Jane Sullivan" <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:ufLXQMfFw4hGFAeJ@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk.. . >> >> They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >> >> I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >> 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >> >> This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >> >> -- >> Jane >> British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden >> http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html >> >Closer to home, there's one at the main marshalling yard in Lille >(Deliverance)- it serves to bring trains arriving from the south around to >the north end of the reception sidings. Even closer than that, of course, >are the arrangements at Eurotunnel's two terminals, which effectively form a >continuous run under normal operation. >Brian > Dijon also. |
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"Christopher A.Lee" wrote > Yes. But the discussion was about what they call balloon loops. So sorry, I didn't realise one had to stick so specifically to the subject under discussion on here. They must have changed the rules recently. John. |
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Jane Sullivan wrote:
> > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > Check out Roberts Bank terminal (near Vancouver, Canada.) -- Wolf 'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.' |
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"Jane Sullivan" <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:ufLXQMfFw4hGFAeJ@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk... > > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > > -- > Jane > British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden > http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html > Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power stations) have them. -- Regards John |
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"John Nuttall" <johnnuttall@optusnet.com.au> wrote in news:4688d9f6$0$6925
$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: .... > > Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power > stations) have them. 'Scuse me for stating the obvious, but surely they wouldn't (couldn't?) be merry-go-round terminals if they didn't? -- All the best, Chris Wilson email to cwilson at britwar dor co dot uk, reply address is spamtrapped. http://www.the-dormouse.org The Dormouse Line model railway |
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In message <Xns996187D26FDCAulmbritwarcouk@62.253.170.163>, Chris Wilson
<4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> writes >"John Nuttall" <johnnuttall@optusnet.com.au> wrote in news:4688d9f6$0$6925 >$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: > >... >> >> Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power >> stations) have them. > >'Scuse me for stating the obvious, but surely they wouldn't (couldn't?) be >merry-go-round terminals if they didn't? I thought merry-go-rounds went round in circles. Mind you, there's a prototype for that also: http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?p=5 You may find the whole site interesting! -- Jane British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html |
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Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in
news:3MRh0GPjrPiGFAUn@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk: > http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?p=5 Fantastic trackwork -- All the best, Chris Wilson email to cwilson at britwar dor co dot uk, reply address is spamtrapped. http://www.the-dormouse.org The Dormouse Line model railway |
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Chris Wilson wrote:
> Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in > news:3MRh0GPjrPiGFAUn@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk: > >> http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?p=5 > > Fantastic trackwork > In HO, this terminal will fit onto a 4'x8' table as is. -- Wolf 'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.' |
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"Chris Wilson" <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns9961A0B301D13ulmbritwarcouk@80.5.182.99... > Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in > news:3MRh0GPjrPiGFAUn@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk: > >> http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?p=5 > > Fantastic trackwork > > -- > All the best, > > Chris Wilson > > email to cwilson at britwar dor co dot uk, reply address is spamtrapped. > http://www.the-dormouse.org The Dormouse Line model railway A nightmare to build though :$ Ian J. |
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"Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message news:kpef83dl24jjhip1ivoo87pdq8t6amnmkh@news.marks house.net... > On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:01:05 +0100, Chris put finger to keyboard and > typed: > > >Jane Sullivan wrote: > >> > >> They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > >> > >> I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > >> 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > >> > >> This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > >> > >There's something similar at Ely to allow trains to run direct from > >Peterborough to Norwich without having to reverse at Ely station. > > Ely North junction is a modeller's dream, if you're looking for > justification for intense track layouts. Three lines merging into one, > three level crossings, a reversing loop and a large industrial complex > (with river access as well) alongside the junction make it an ideal > setting for a busy layout. > > Mark > -- > http://www.MotorwayServices.info - read and share comments and opinons > "Look at the stars; look how they shine for you" There is still - just about - a "balloon loop" at Eastleigh. Some years ago the Network SouthEast Area Manager at Salisbury (I think it was he, apologies if I get this wrong) had the bright idea of a steam weekend on the old Southern Region. He borrowed the M7 tank (possibly from the Swanage Railway) and had that performing as station pilot; a main line train ran down to Exeter behind 777 Sir Lamiel, and ran back to Salisbury with 75069 in charge. Meanwhile, Taw Valley was running shuttles between Salisbury and Eastleigh, at the former the engine was turned on the Laverstock Triangle while at Eastleigh the whole train disappeared into the works in the direction of Fareham and ten minuteds later appeared from the works and joined the line from Southampton. The whole event was so popular they repeated it a couple of years later on a smaller scale, with 828 and Britannia doing the Salisbury - Easleigh bit, again using the Eastleigh works loop to turn the complete train. A bit long winded - apologies for that - but more came to mind as I was clicking the keys; just hope it helps the discussion. David Costigan |
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Great info , thanks
"David Costigan" <dcostigan@ic24.net> wrote in message news:TbadnUg0UJYyzBTbnZ2dnUVZ8tmhnZ2d@brightview.c o.uk... > > "Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message > news:kpef83dl24jjhip1ivoo87pdq8t6amnmkh@news.marks house.net... >> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:01:05 +0100, Chris put finger to keyboard and >> typed: >> >> >Jane Sullivan wrote: >> >> >> >> They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >> >> >> >> I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, >> >> at >> >> 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >> >> >> >> This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >> >> >> >There's something similar at Ely to allow trains to run direct from >> >Peterborough to Norwich without having to reverse at Ely station. >> >> Ely North junction is a modeller's dream, if you're looking for >> justification for intense track layouts. Three lines merging into one, >> three level crossings, a reversing loop and a large industrial complex >> (with river access as well) alongside the junction make it an ideal >> setting for a busy layout. >> >> Mark >> -- >> http://www.MotorwayServices.info - read and share comments and opinons >> "Look at the stars; look how they shine for you" > > There is still - just about - a "balloon loop" at Eastleigh. Some years > ago > the Network SouthEast Area Manager at Salisbury (I think it was he, > apologies if I get this wrong) had the bright idea of a steam weekend on > the > old Southern Region. He borrowed the M7 tank (possibly from the Swanage > Railway) and had that performing as station pilot; a main line train ran > down to Exeter behind 777 Sir Lamiel, and ran back to Salisbury with 75069 > in charge. Meanwhile, Taw Valley was running shuttles between Salisbury > and > Eastleigh, at the former the engine was turned on the Laverstock Triangle > while at Eastleigh the whole train disappeared into the works in the > direction of Fareham and ten minuteds later appeared from the works and > joined the line from Southampton. The whole event was so popular they > repeated it a couple of years later on a smaller scale, with 828 and > Britannia doing the Salisbury - Easleigh bit, again using the Eastleigh > works loop to turn the complete train. > > A bit long winded - apologies for that - but more came to mind as I was > clicking the keys; just hope it helps the discussion. > > David Costigan > > |
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"Jane Sullivan" <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:ufLXQMfFw4hGFAeJ@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk... > > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at > 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. > > This is near Lake Superior in the USA. > > -- > Jane > British OO, American and Australian HO, and DCC in the garden > http://www.yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk/railway/railway.html > also at the grain terminal at Rockingham, Western Australia. |
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David Costigan wrote:
> "Mark Goodge" <usenet@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote in message > news:kpef83dl24jjhip1ivoo87pdq8t6amnmkh@news.marks house.net... >> On Sun, 01 Jul 2007 15:01:05 +0100, Chris put finger to keyboard and >> typed: >> >>> Jane Sullivan wrote: >>>> They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. >>>> >>>> I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at >>>> 47° 33' 51" N, 92° 31' 18" W. >>>> >>>> This is near Lake Superior in the USA. >>>> >>> There's something similar at Ely to allow trains to run direct from >>> Peterborough to Norwich without having to reverse at Ely station. >> Ely North junction is a modeller's dream, if you're looking for >> justification for intense track layouts. Three lines merging into one, >> three level crossings, a reversing loop and a large industrial complex >> (with river access as well) alongside the junction make it an ideal >> setting for a busy layout. >> >> Mark >> -- >> http://www.MotorwayServices.info - read and share comments and opinons >> "Look at the stars; look how they shine for you" > > There is still - just about - a "balloon loop" at Eastleigh. Some years ago > the Network SouthEast Area Manager at Salisbury (I think it was he, > apologies if I get this wrong) had the bright idea of a steam weekend on the > old Southern Region. He borrowed the M7 tank (possibly from the Swanage > Railway) and had that performing as station pilot; a main line train ran > down to Exeter behind 777 Sir Lamiel, and ran back to Salisbury with 75069 > in charge. Meanwhile, Taw Valley was running shuttles between Salisbury and > Eastleigh, at the former the engine was turned on the Laverstock Triangle > while at Eastleigh the whole train disappeared into the works in the > direction of Fareham and ten minuteds later appeared from the works and > joined the line from Southampton. The whole event was so popular they > repeated it a couple of years later on a smaller scale, with 828 and > Britannia doing the Salisbury - Easleigh bit, again using the Eastleigh > works loop to turn the complete train. > > A bit long winded - apologies for that - but more came to mind as I was > clicking the keys; just hope it helps the discussion. > > David Costigan > > That would be Eastleigh depot, loops around the works though, not the works known locally as the DEMU as thats where the DEMUs (Hampshire units) were looked after when they first arrived in Hampshire. Chris |
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Jane Sullivan wrote:
> In message <Xns996187D26FDCAulmbritwarcouk@62.253.170.163>, Chris Wilson > <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> writes >> "John Nuttall" <johnnuttall@optusnet.com.au> wrote in >> news:4688d9f6$0$6925 >> $afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: >> >> ... >>> >>> Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power >>> stations) have them. >> >> 'Scuse me for stating the obvious, but surely they wouldn't >> (couldn't?) be >> merry-go-round terminals if they didn't? > > I thought merry-go-rounds went round in circles. > > Mind you, there's a prototype for that also: > http://www.bronx-terminal.com/?p=5 > > You may find the whole site interesting! Not many colleries had loops though even if most of the power stations did. Chris |
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"Chris Wilson" <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns996187D26FDCAulmbritwarcouk@62.253.170.163 ... > "John Nuttall" <johnnuttall@optusnet.com.au> wrote in news:4688d9f6$0$6925 > $afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: > > ... >> >> Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power >> stations) have them. > > 'Scuse me for stating the obvious, but surely they wouldn't (couldn't?) be > merry-go-round terminals if they didn't? > > > -- > All the best, > > Chris Wilson > Chris When I sent the post I felt sure that there were some collieries that do/did not have balloon loops, but where trains ran through, approaching and leaving by different routes, but I couldn't think of any last night. Maybe Gascoigne Wood if my memory serves correctly? -- Regards John |
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John Nuttall wrote:
> "Chris Wilson" <4rubbish@britwar.co.uk> wrote in message > news:Xns996187D26FDCAulmbritwarcouk@62.253.170.163 ... >> "John Nuttall" <johnnuttall@optusnet.com.au> wrote in news:4688d9f6$0$6925 >> $afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au: >> >> ... >>> Most (if not all?) merry-go-round terminals (coal loading plants/power >>> stations) have them. >> 'Scuse me for stating the obvious, but surely they wouldn't (couldn't?) be >> merry-go-round terminals if they didn't? >> >> >> -- >> All the best, >> >> Chris Wilson >> > > > > Chris > > > When I sent the post I felt sure that there were some collieries that do/did > not have balloon loops, but where trains ran through, approaching and > leaving by different routes, but I couldn't think of any last night. Maybe > Gascoigne Wood if my memory serves correctly? > Selby probably did as it opened as a super pit in the 1980's. Chris |
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"John Nuttall" wrote > When I sent the post I felt sure that there were some collieries that > do/did not have balloon loops, but where trains ran through, approaching > and leaving by different routes, but I couldn't think of any last night. > Maybe Gascoigne Wood if my memory serves correctly? Gas Wood didn't really and I never saw it operate that way. Trains generally accessed from Milford Junction and reversed after loading. In theory it could have been accessed from the Selby direction, loaded and then exited through Milford Junction, but it mainly supplied the Aire Valley power stations (Eggborough and Drax) and it would have been a complicated procedure for the emptied MGRs to run via Selby. John. |
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Balloons are found in southern Africa, eg Pyramid South (Pretoria,
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"John Turner" wrote > In theory it could have been accessed from the Selby direction, View of Gascoigne Wood colliery from the 'Selby end' here: http://www.53a-pix.co.uk/picture/Colliery-GW-100805.jpg never once saw a loaded train access from this point. John. |
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"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:138qu9ics1ha24f@news.supernews.com... > > "John Nuttall" wrote > >> When I sent the post I felt sure that there were some collieries that >> do/did not have balloon loops, but where trains ran through, approaching >> and leaving by different routes, but I couldn't think of any last night. >> Maybe Gascoigne Wood if my memory serves correctly? > > Gas Wood didn't really and I never saw it operate that way. Trains > generally accessed from Milford Junction and reversed after loading. > > In theory it could have been accessed from the Selby direction, loaded and > then exited through Milford Junction, but it mainly supplied the Aire > Valley power stations (Eggborough and Drax) and it would have been a > complicated procedure for the emptied MGRs to run via Selby. > > John. > Thanks John, it's over 20 years since I lived in the area. -- Regards John |
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On Jul 1, 9:12 pm, Jane Sullivan <spamt...@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk>
wrote: > They say there is a prototype for everything, and so there is. > > I've found a reversing loop, near the Minorca Taconite Pellet plant, at There was a balloon loop just beyond the terminus of the Colac-Beech Forest line in SW Victoria, Australia. Passengers were not allowed to travel around the loop, but had to disembark onto the Beech Forest platform until the train ground its way round. This 2' 6" gauge line was built to serve the timber industry, and was the stamping-ground of some rather neat 2-6-2+2-6-2 Beyer Garratts. Andrew Clarke Canberra |
