A little OT, Jack Odell dies

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6282258.stm

I kid you not but even as we speak my two year old son is currently playing
with a ...

"Some Matchbox items have become highly collectable.

Its version of the Mercedes Benz 230S, bought for less than three shillings
(15 pence) in 1968, was sold at auction in 1999 for £4,100."

--
All the best,

Chris Wilson

email to cwilson at britwar dor co dot uk, reply address is spamtrapped.
http://www.the-dormouse.org The Dormouse Line model railway

Chris Wilson wrote:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6282258.stm
>
> I kid you not but even as we speak my two year old son is currently playing
> with a ...
>
> "Some Matchbox items have become highly collectable.
>
> Its version of the Mercedes Benz 230S, bought for less than three shillings
> (15 pence) in 1968, was sold at auction in 1999 for £4,100."
>

H'm I'll have to list my originals separately in my will, then. ;-)

--
Wolf
'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.'

When I worked in a model shop, in Leicester, in the early 60's the
standard matchbox models cost 1 and 9 pence. That was made up of 1
shilling to the manufacture, 6 pence to the retailer and 3 pence to the
government for sales tax. We used to sell plenty.
Graham Grant
Sydney Australia

Graham Grant wrote:
>
> When I worked in a model shop, in Leicester, in the early 60's the
> standard matchbox models cost 1 and 9 pence. That was made up of 1
> shilling to the manufacture, 6 pence to the retailer and 3 pence to the
> government for sales tax. We used to sell plenty.
> Graham Grant
> Sydney Australia

My Great-aunt in Bradford used to send me the first of the Matchbox
toys, along with "Eye-Spy" booklets every year - well, I got the first
three Matchbox toys before she decided I was too old.

kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30:

> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but outdoor
> toilet.

My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively recently.
As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in the middle
of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-)

--
Paul Boyd
http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
> kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30:
>
>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but
>> outdoor toilet.
>
> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively
> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in
> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-)

My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot running
water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, and later it
was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing was done in a
galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the laundry boiler.
My grandparents lived there all their married life, 1908 to 1962.

--
Martin S.

MartinS wrote:
> Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
>> kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30:
>>
>>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but
>>> outdoor toilet.
>> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively
>> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in
>> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-)
>
> My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot running
> water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, and later it
> was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing was done in a
> galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the laundry boiler.
> My grandparents lived there all their married life, 1908 to 1962.
>

My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen,
and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off the
landing upstairs.

'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-)

--
Wolf
'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.'

Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote:
> MartinS wrote:
>> Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
>>> kim said the following:
>>>
>>>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but
>>>> outdoor toilet.
>>> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively
>>> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in
>>> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-)
>>
>> My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot
>> running water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal,
>> and later it was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing
>> was done in a galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the
>> laundry boiler. My grandparents lived there all their married life,
>> 1908 to 1962.
>
> My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen,
> and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off
> the landing upstairs.
>
> 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-)

Luckshury!!

--
Martin S.

In message <Keyki.250541$dC2.124111@newsfe13.lga>
MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:

> Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote:
> > MartinS wrote:
> >> Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote:
> >>> kim said the following:
> >>>
> >>>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but
> >>>> outdoor toilet.
> >>> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively
> >>> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in
> >>> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-)
> >>
> >> My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot
> >> running water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal,
> >> and later it was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing
> >> was done in a galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the
> >> laundry boiler. My grandparents lived there all their married life,
> >> 1908 to 1962.
> >
> > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen,
> > and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off
> > the landing upstairs.
> >
> > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-)
>
> Luckshury!!
>

Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin.......

A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by
a brass band.... ;-)

The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built
in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered
wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail
being nailed *through* the cables. We had to have everything wired
directly into the distrubition board for the first month....

Richard

--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
I have become... comfortably numb

Richard wrote :-

Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin.......

A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by a
brass band.... ;-)

The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built
in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered
wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail
being nailed *through* the cables. We had to have everything wired
directly into the distrubition board for the first month....

But I bet you've got a new water meter !

A chap I met in Cheadle used to make the prototype models of the new
JCB's for the factory in wood

Chris

"beamendsltd" wrote

> Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
> them.

Didn't live in Blackburn, Lancashire then?

John.

beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:
> MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:
>> Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote:
>> >
>> > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the
>> > kitchen, and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside
>> > one just off the landing upstairs.
>> >
>> > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-)
>>
>> Luckshury!!
>
> Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
> them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin.......
>
> A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by
> a brass band.... ;-)
>
> The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built
> in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered
> wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail
> being nailed *through* the cables. We had to have everything wired
> directly into the distrubition board for the first month....

What, no ring circuits?

My grandparents' house was originally lit by gas, so all the subsequent
electrical wiring was on the surface. A house lit by coal gas must have
stunk something awful!

--
Martin S.

In message <1184087212.305249.322580@57g2000hsv.googlegroups. com>
Dragon Heart <chris_brett@tesco.net> wrote:

> Richard wrote :-
>
> Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
> them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin.......
>
> A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by a
> brass band.... ;-)
>
> The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built
> in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered
> wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail
> being nailed *through* the cables. We had to have everything wired
> directly into the distrubition board for the first month....
>
> But I bet you've got a new water meter !

Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
them again!

>
> A chap I met in Cheadle used to make the prototype models of the new
> JCB's for the factory in wood

Don't tell Sir Anthony, or he'll start using wood on the real ones....
JCB ain't what they were since the old man died (ref: The Glass Door
Fiasco).

>
> Chris
>

Richard

--
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I have become... comfortably numb

In message <1397gc71mpa2071@news.supernews.com>
"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>
> "beamendsltd" wrote
>
> > Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
> > them.
>
> Didn't live in Blackburn, Lancashire then?
>

Manchester - but I did overhear some "self-made men" discssing
the issue in a bar - something and tonic they were drinking.

> John.
>
>

Richard

--
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I have become... comfortably numb

In message <BDRki.71443$tL1.43362@newsfe22.lga>
MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:

> beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote:
> > MartinS <me@my.place> wrote:
> >> Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the
> >> > kitchen, and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside
> >> > one just off the landing upstairs.
> >> >
> >> > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-)
> >>
> >> Luckshury!!
> >
> > Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o'
> > them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin.......
> >
> > A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by
> > a brass band.... ;-)
> >
> > The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built
> > in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered
> > wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail
> > being nailed *through* the cables. We had to have everything wired
> > directly into the distrubition board for the first month....
>
> What, no ring circuits?

None until I'd re-wired. Letting socket boxes into 4.5 in walls - now
that's *fun*, especially when the local brick had enough iron content
to conduct (well, ok a slight exaggeration, but a quality masonry bit
would last for about 4 holes)!

>
> My grandparents' house was originally lit by gas, so all the subsequent
> electrical wiring was on the surface. A house lit by coal gas must have
> stunk something awful!
>

Richard

--
www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk
I have become... comfortably numb

"beamendsltd" wrote

> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
> them again!

I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of
charge? Having said that when I asked Yorkshire Water for one for the
(empty) flat above my shop they said would rather not charge any water rates
than install one in an unoccupied property. They also said they'd no
objection to occasional free use of water in said flat.

John.

"John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:1399i69qgu2u63@news.supernews.com...
>
> "beamendsltd" wrote
>
>> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
>> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
>> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
>> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
>> them again!
>
> I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of
> charge?

A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he was
entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please note you
have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered the discount.

(kim)

"kim" <ntscuser@aol.com> wrote:
> "John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote...
>> "beamendsltd" wrote
>>
>>> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
>>> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
>>> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
>>> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
>>> them again!
>>
>> I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free
>> of charge?
>
> A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he
> was entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please
> note you have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered
> the discount.

Where I live, it costs you considerably more not to have a meter.

--
Martin S.

John Turner wrote:
> "beamendsltd" wrote
>
>> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
>> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
>> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
>> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
>> them again!
>
> I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of
> charge? Having said that when I asked Yorkshire Water for one for the
> (empty) flat above my shop they said would rather not charge any water rates
> than install one in an unoccupied property. They also said they'd no
> objection to occasional free use of water in said flat.

My family a couple of miles from you have got more than enough free
water at home :-)

--
Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

"Arthur Figgis" wrote

> My family a couple of miles from you have got more than enough free water
> at home :-)

No doubt complete with free samples of sewerage included? ;-)

John.

" Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
them again! "

Severn Trent's idea was to fit all of Cheadle with new pipework then
meter everyone by radio read meters. The theory was to see if it were
possible to get a 'leak free' system.

I understand it did not go as planned !

" A chap I met in Cheadle used to make the prototype models of the new
JCB's for the factory in wood "

Don't tell Sir Anthony, or he'll start using wood on the real ones....
JCB ain't what they were since the old man died (ref: The Glass Door
Fiasco).

" The Glass Door Fiasco " what was that about ?

Jack Odell, in my opinion, typifies what the British are good
at .... ideas. I just wonder if the latest band of 'whiz kids' can
also have original ideas ....... from my experience I doubt it !

Chris B

On 11 Jul, 13:53, "kim" <ntscu...@aol.com> wrote:
> "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>
> news:1399i69qgu2u63@news.supernews.com...
>
>
>
> > "beamendsltd" wrote
>
> >> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water
> >> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a
> >> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and
> >> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from
> >> them again!
>
> > I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of
> > charge?
>
> A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he was
> entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please note you
> have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered the discount.

Only about 26% of households in the UK have a meter but many others
have what are called " Assessed charge bills " based on size and type
of property.

	#1
Chris Wilson	A little OT, Jack Odell dies http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6282258.stm I kid you not but even as we speak my two year old son is currently playing with a ... "Some Matchbox items have become highly collectable. Its version of the Mercedes Benz 230S, bought for less than three shillings (15 pence) in 1968, was sold at auction in 1999 for £4,100." -- All the best, Chris Wilson email to cwilson at britwar dor co dot uk, reply address is spamtrapped. http://www.the-dormouse.org The Dormouse Line model railway

	#2
Wolf	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Chris Wilson wrote: > http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/6282258.stm > > I kid you not but even as we speak my two year old son is currently playing > with a ... > > "Some Matchbox items have become highly collectable. > > Its version of the Mercedes Benz 230S, bought for less than three shillings > (15 pence) in 1968, was sold at auction in 1999 for £4,100." > H'm I'll have to list my originals separately in my will, then. ;-) -- Wolf 'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.'

	#3
Graham Grant	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies When I worked in a model shop, in Leicester, in the early 60's the standard matchbox models cost 1 and 9 pence. That was made up of 1 shilling to the manufacture, 6 pence to the retailer and 3 pence to the government for sales tax. We used to sell plenty. Graham Grant Sydney Australia

	#4
Greg Procter	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Graham Grant wrote: > > When I worked in a model shop, in Leicester, in the early 60's the > standard matchbox models cost 1 and 9 pence. That was made up of 1 > shilling to the manufacture, 6 pence to the retailer and 3 pence to the > government for sales tax. We used to sell plenty. > Graham Grant > Sydney Australia My Great-aunt in Bradford used to send me the first of the Matchbox toys, along with "Eye-Spy" booklets every year - well, I got the first three Matchbox toys before she decided I was too old.

	#5
Paul Boyd	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30: > The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but outdoor > toilet. My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-) -- Paul Boyd http://www.paul-boyd.co.uk/

	#6
MartinS	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote: > kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30: > >> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but >> outdoor toilet. > > My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively > recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in > the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-) My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot running water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, and later it was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing was done in a galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the laundry boiler. My grandparents lived there all their married life, 1908 to 1962. -- Martin S.

	#7
Wolf	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies MartinS wrote: > Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote: >> kim said the following on 09/07/2007 02:30: >> >>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but >>> outdoor toilet. >> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively >> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in >> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-) > > My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot running > water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, and later it > was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing was done in a > galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the laundry boiler. > My grandparents lived there all their married life, 1908 to 1962. > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen, and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off the landing upstairs. 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-) -- Wolf 'Just because it's true doesn't mean it's the right answer.'

	#8
MartinS	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote: > MartinS wrote: >> Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote: >>> kim said the following: >>> >>>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but >>>> outdoor toilet. >>> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively >>> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in >>> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-) >> >> My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot >> running water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, >> and later it was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing >> was done in a galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the >> laundry boiler. My grandparents lived there all their married life, >> 1908 to 1962. > > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen, > and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off > the landing upstairs. > > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-) Luckshury!! -- Martin S.

	#9
beamendsltd	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies In message <Keyki.250541$dC2.124111@newsfe13.lga> MartinS <me@my.place> wrote: > Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote: > > MartinS wrote: > >> Paul Boyd <usenet.dont.work@plusnet> wrote: > >>> kim said the following: > >>> > >>>> The first house I ever lived in England had an indoor bathroom but > >>>> outdoor toilet. > >>> My Gran's house had that until about 30 years ago - relatively > >>> recently. As a kid, why was it I always needed to use the toilet in > >>> the middle of the night during a massive thunderstorm? :-) > >> > >> My Gran's house was like that too, but the bathroom had no hot > >> running water. During the War, the bathtub was used to store coal, > >> and later it was converted to a spare bed for when I visited. Bathing > >> was done in a galvanised tub in the kitchen, with water heated in the > >> laundry boiler. My grandparents lived there all their married life, > >> 1908 to 1962. > > > > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the kitchen, > > and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside one just off > > the landing upstairs. > > > > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-) > > Luckshury!! > Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o' them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin....... A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by a brass band.... ;-) The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail being nailed through the cables. We had to have everything wired directly into the distrubition board for the first month.... Richard -- www.beamends-lrspares.co.uk sales@beamends-lrspares.co.uk I have become... comfortably numb

	#10
Dragon Heart	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Richard wrote :- Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o' them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin....... A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by a brass band.... ;-) The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail being nailed through the cables. We had to have everything wired directly into the distrubition board for the first month.... But I bet you've got a new water meter ! A chap I met in Cheadle used to make the prototype models of the new JCB's for the factory in wood Chris

	#11
John Turner	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies "beamendsltd" wrote > Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o' > them. Didn't live in Blackburn, Lancashire then? John.

	#12
MartinS	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies beamendsltd <beamendsltd@btconnect.com> wrote: > MartinS <me@my.place> wrote: >> Wolf <ElLoboViejo@ruddy.moss> wrote: >> > >> > My Granny's house had _two_ outside toilets, one just off the >> > kitchen, and one at t'other end of the coal shed. Plus an inside >> > one just off the landing upstairs. >> > >> > 'Course, my Grampa was an alderman.... ;-) >> >> Luckshury!! > > Indeed - my grand parents lived in hole in middle o' t' road, 42 o' > them. Used t' pay t' mill owner fur privilage o' workin....... > > A lad on a bike with a loaf of Hovis has just gone by followed by > a brass band.... ;-) > > The house I bought in Cheadle hadn't been touched since it was built > in 1949 - lead pipes, outside bog, and the speciality rubber covered > wiring, the ligting cables being behind the picture rail - said rail > being nailed through the cables. We had to have everything wired > directly into the distrubition board for the first month.... What, no ring circuits? My grandparents' house was originally lit by gas, so all the subsequent electrical wiring was on the surface. A house lit by coal gas must have stunk something awful! -- Martin S.

	#17
kim	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies "John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote in message news:1399i69qgu2u63@news.supernews.com... > > "beamendsltd" wrote > >> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water >> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a >> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and >> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from >> them again! > > I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of > charge? A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he was entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please note you have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered the discount. (kim)

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MartinS	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies "kim" <ntscuser@aol.com> wrote: > "John Turner" <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote... >> "beamendsltd" wrote >> >>> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water >>> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a >>> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and >>> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from >>> them again! >> >> I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free >> of charge? > > A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he > was entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please > note you have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered > the discount. Where I live, it costs you considerably more not to have a meter. -- Martin S.

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Arthur Figgis	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies John Turner wrote: > "beamendsltd" wrote > >> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water >> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a >> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and >> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from >> them again! > > I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of > charge? Having said that when I asked Yorkshire Water for one for the > (empty) flat above my shop they said would rather not charge any water rates > than install one in an unoccupied property. They also said they'd no > objection to occasional free use of water in said flat. My family a couple of miles from you have got more than enough free water at home :-) -- Arthur Figgis Surrey, UK

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John Turner	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies "Arthur Figgis" wrote > My family a couple of miles from you have got more than enough free water > at home :-) No doubt complete with free samples of sewerage included? ;-) John.

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Dragon Heart	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies " Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from them again! " Severn Trent's idea was to fit all of Cheadle with new pipework then meter everyone by radio read meters. The theory was to see if it were possible to get a 'leak free' system. I understand it did not go as planned ! " A chap I met in Cheadle used to make the prototype models of the new JCB's for the factory in wood " Don't tell Sir Anthony, or he'll start using wood on the real ones.... JCB ain't what they were since the old man died (ref: The Glass Door Fiasco). " The Glass Door Fiasco " what was that about ?

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Dragon Heart	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies Jack Odell, in my opinion, typifies what the British are good at .... ideas. I just wonder if the latest band of 'whiz kids' can also have original ideas ....... from my experience I doubt it ! Chris B

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Dragon Heart	Re: A little OT, Jack Odell dies On 11 Jul, 13:53, "kim" <ntscu...@aol.com> wrote: > "John Turner" <nos...@nospam.invalid> wrote in message > > news:1399i69qgu2u63@news.supernews.com... > > > > > "beamendsltd" wrote > > >> Actually we never did! When Severn Trent took over Cheadle Water > >> Company they surveryed every house telling us we would all have a > >> meter. When they worked out they would have to dig the drive up and > >> install 2 meters for our installation we never saw or heard from > >> them again! > > > I thought everyone had a right to have a water meter installed free of > > charge? > > A friend was told he couldn't have a meter but as a single occupant he was > entitled to a fixed discount of 25% off his bill instead. Please note you > have to apply to have a meter fitted before you are offered the discount. Only about 26% of households in the UK have a meter but many others have what are called " Assessed charge bills " based on size and type of property.