Peter A Forbes

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We had the paid-for version of AVG on both our machines at home, but after some
serious problems with it over the past week we have deleted it completely.

Problems manifested themselves by the boot-up taking 20 minutes, AVG itself not
coming on-line and continuous HDD activity.

The other thing we noticed and didn't like was that it froze everything while
doing updates on start-up, sometimes with nothing to show that it was actually
running.

Having taken it out, everything is back to normal.

I have contacted Grisoft to see what they have to say.

Peter
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Nick H

Been using the freebie AVG for a couple of years now, since Symantec stopped
supporting the version of NAV with which PC was supplied. No problems so
far - touch wood!


Nick H.

Andrew Marshall

In message <5g60iqF3eodjeU1@mid.individual.net>, Nick H
<n_highfield@hotmail.com> writes
>Been using the freebie AVG for a couple of years now, since Symantec stopped
>supporting the version of NAV with which PC was supplied. No problems so
>far - touch wood!

I've been using paid-for AVG and firewall since January last year, on
two machines (one Win98 and one WinXP Pro) with no problems at all on
either box. I'll be renewing the licences when they run out, unless
anything better comes along. I'm happy with it.
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Prepair Ltd

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:16:38 +0100, Andrew Marshall <g8bur@g8bur.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In message <5g60iqF3eodjeU1@mid.individual.net>, Nick H
><n_highfield@hotmail.com> writes
>>Been using the freebie AVG for a couple of years now, since Symantec stopped
>>supporting the version of NAV with which PC was supplied. No problems so
>>far - touch wood!
>
>I've been using paid-for AVG and firewall since January last year, on
>two machines (one Win98 and one WinXP Pro) with no problems at all on
>either box. I'll be renewing the licences when they run out, unless
>anything better comes along. I'm happy with it.

We use Zonealarm for a software firewall, and our BT Modems have a built-in
hardware firewall, but I think it was Zone Alarm and AVG which had the battle
for control over the machine, and the problems manifested themselves in the
screw-up. Our other machine at home has the same software setup and has been OK
so far, but there have been occasional conflicts on that one as well.



Peter
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ChrisQuayle

Peter A Forbes wrote:
> Posted to uk.rec.engines.stationary & uk.rec.models.engineering
>
> We had the paid-for version of AVG on both our machines at home, but after some
> serious problems with it over the past week we have deleted it completely.
>
> Problems manifested themselves by the boot-up taking 20 minutes, AVG itself not
> coming on-line and continuous HDD activity.
>
> The other thing we noticed and didn't like was that it froze everything while
> doing updates on start-up, sometimes with nothing to show that it was actually
> running.
>
> Having taken it out, everything is back to normal.
>
> I have contacted Grisoft to see what they have to say.
>
> Peter
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> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> Web: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel

Peter - may be going against the grain here, but have never used any
antivirus software either for the home network or for the lab. If you
are using a stable set of software with only well known commercial
pakages added infrequently, you really don't need it if you follow a few
simple guidlines.

What we do have is a two level hardware firewall router (netgear router
etc) with nat to keep out external hackers and the family have strict
instructions never to open any email attachments without reference to me
first. Software install is also disabled on the family machine, as well
as drivers etc, to stop the kids running unchecked material. We also
don't use Microsoft email and ie applications but Thunderbird for email
and Firefox for browsing, both of which can keep out much of the
unwanted crap if properly setup.

We've been running the home / lab systems like this for 5 years or more,
"always on" cable modem, with no problems at all and my youngest lad
seems to spend half his life on the web. Gut feeling suggests that the
antivirus bandwagon has more to do with FUD that any real ongoing threat...

Chris

Nick H

Ah, I did have some trouble with Zonealarm - mostly hanging on shut-down.
removed it and now rely on hardware firewall in router.

rack2000

"Peter A Forbes" <diesel@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dlcr939qdkumu0mno1sekuttspnc8krjnf@4ax.com...
> Posted to uk.rec.engines.stationary & uk.rec.models.engineering
>
> We had the paid-for version of AVG on both our machines at home, but after
> some
> serious problems with it over the past week we have deleted it completely.
>
> Problems manifested themselves by the boot-up taking 20 minutes, AVG
> itself not
> coming on-line and continuous HDD activity.
>
Had a similar problem with my free version. Found it was due to a setting
in the shedule items that started a full HDD virus search when the computer
was booted up. I disabled in the scheduled items menu and everythings OK
now.

Chris.

Dave Croft

"Prepair Ltd" <prepair@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message news:g3pr93latigkhuuhcu5lji4ofrpl9oqcjm@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 10:16:38 +0100, Andrew Marshall <g8bur@g8bur.demon.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>In message <5g60iqF3eodjeU1@mid.individual.net>, Nick H
>><n_highfield@hotmail.com> writes
>>>Been using the freebie AVG for a couple of years now, since Symantec stopped
>>>supporting the version of NAV with which PC was supplied. No problems so
>>>far - touch wood!
>>
>>I've been using paid-for AVG and firewall since January last year, on
>>two machines (one Win98 and one WinXP Pro) with no problems at all on
>>either box. I'll be renewing the licences when they run out, unless
>>anything better comes along. I'm happy with it.
>
> We use Zonealarm for a software firewall, and our BT Modems have a built-in
> hardware firewall, but I think it was Zone Alarm and AVG which had the battle
> for control over the machine, and the problems manifested themselves in the
> screw-up. Our other machine at home has the same software setup and has been OK
> so far, but there have been occasional conflicts on that one as well.
> Peter
> Peter A Forbes

Hi Peter, I use E-Trust AV (Paid for) & Zone Alarm (Free) for the Firewall.
I have recently started getting ZoneAlarm trying to upgrade but when I try
to do it it says it cannot work with E-Trust
(Even though it has been working with it fine for years).
At the moment I have told it to remind me in 60 days so I can look for a remedy.

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Peter A Forbes

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 20:03:23 +0100, Brian Dominic <nbrumpus@lineone.net> wrote:

>I think Zonealarm's more likely to be the culprit!
>
>Brian L Dominic

I have removed both programmes now, and it is stable once more.

AVG and Zonealarm both have reported problems on the Net, and we have decided to
run without both for a period to see what effect it has.

Looks like the earlier Zonealarm versions were better....

Peter
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Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
Web: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel

DCreed

About 12 months ago my computer was at near melt down, i was running
telewest anti virus and it was crap, i could switch the comp on and go
away, make a full English, eat it while watching daytime tv and it had
just about warmed up. I was told to use the free versions of
AVG-Adaware and Zone alarm, what a difference, no conflicts and the
comp runs at a good speed, i also bought (shock horror) system mechanic
for £1-59 of e bay, a great tool for cleaning up any probs on the
system. I have also tried Norton but found it slowed the machine, its
like a spiders web, it gets into everything, try deleting it and you
will see what i mean, Dave


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Steve R.

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>
> About 12 months ago my computer was at near melt down, i was running
> telewest anti virus and it was crap, i could switch the comp on and go
> away, make a full English, eat it while watching daytime tv and it had
> just about warmed up. I was told to use the free versions of
> AVG-Adaware and Zone alarm, what a difference, no conflicts and the
> comp runs at a good speed, i also bought (shock horror) system mechanic
> for £1-59 of e bay, a great tool for cleaning up any probs on the
> system. I have also tried Norton but found it slowed the machine, its
> like a spiders web, it gets into everything, try deleting it and you
> will see what i mean, Dave
>
>
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I have been using Free AVG for many years now. If there is a problem, it is
often due to corrupted Windows system files. A fresh install of the
operating system is the best cure. No need for a software firewall here, as
my network is hiding behind a hardware router. Note, if you have a router,
do not use a software firewall. The two will often conflict!

Steve R.

Steve R.

"rack2000" <rack2000@rack2000.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Peter A Forbes" <diesel@easynet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dlcr939qdkumu0mno1sekuttspnc8krjnf@4ax.com...
>> Posted to uk.rec.engines.stationary & uk.rec.models.engineering
>>
>> We had the paid-for version of AVG on both our machines at home, but
>> after some
>> serious problems with it over the past week we have deleted it
>> completely.
>>
>> Problems manifested themselves by the boot-up taking 20 minutes, AVG
>> itself not
>> coming on-line and continuous HDD activity.
>>
> Had a similar problem with my free version. Found it was due to a setting
> in the shedule items that started a full HDD virus search when the
> computer was booted up. I disabled in the scheduled items menu and
> everythings OK now.
>
> Chris.
>

I disable all scheduled scanning, and do a manual one weekly. Adaware is
used for spyware scanning, and Spybot Search and Destroy for spyware
blocking, and additional scanning.

Steve R.

Chris Edwards

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 02:32:22 GMT, "Steve R." <ud233@shaw.ca> wrote:

>
>"DCreed" <DCreed.2txrwn@rcgroups.com> wrote in message
>newsCreed.2txrwn@rcgroups.com...
>>
>> About 12 months ago my computer was at near melt down, i was running
>> telewest anti virus and it was crap, i could switch the comp on and go
>> away, make a full English, eat it while watching daytime tv and it had
>> just about warmed up. I was told to use the free versions of
>> AVG-Adaware and Zone alarm, what a difference, no conflicts and the
>> comp runs at a good speed, i also bought (shock horror) system mechanic
>> for £1-59 of e bay, a great tool for cleaning up any probs on the
>> system. I have also tried Norton but found it slowed the machine, its
>> like a spiders web, it gets into everything, try deleting it and you
>> will see what i mean, Dave
>>
>>
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>
>I have been using Free AVG for many years now. If there is a problem, it is
>often due to corrupted Windows system files. A fresh install of the
>operating system is the best cure. No need for a software firewall here, as
>my network is hiding behind a hardware router. Note, if you have a router,
>do not use a software firewall. The two will often conflict!
>
>Steve R.
>
........and another two penn'eth. The wife and I have both used 'paid for'
ZoneAlarm for three years, on different machines, completely without
problems. Our only regret is that they don't yet have a product that's
compatible with Vista.
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Steve

Hi All
After using Zonealarm for many years it did start to slow my system
down but was recommended `Comodo` for a firewall and I can say its
excellent,free and uses much less system resources than ZA.
Steve
Ps never had a problem with the free version of AVG either.

Odie Ferrous

Peter A Forbes wrote:
>
> Posted to uk.rec.engines.stationary & uk.rec.models.engineering
>
> We had the paid-for version of AVG on both our machines at home, but after some
> serious problems with it over the past week we have deleted it completely.
>
> Problems manifested themselves by the boot-up taking 20 minutes, AVG itself not
> coming on-line and continuous HDD activity.
>
> The other thing we noticed and didn't like was that it froze everything while
> doing updates on start-up, sometimes with nothing to show that it was actually
> running.
>
> Having taken it out, everything is back to normal.
>
> I have contacted Grisoft to see what they have to say.
>
> Peter
> --
> Peter & Rita Forbes
> Email: diesel@easynet.co.uk
> Web: http://www.oldengine.org/members/diesel

Peter,


I've only just completed a horribly complex logical recovery of a hard
disk that was totally and utterly trashed.

Grisoft appears to have been the culprit in this case. I could be
totally wrong, but I doubt it.

My vote is for AVG, despite PC Pro (if you can believe a word they say)
coming up with a more effective alternative, the name of which escapes
me at present.

I have both paid-for and free versions of AVG and tend to use only the
free version, as I cannot determine any difference in virus detection
ability between the two.


Odie
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www.retrodata.co.uk
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Peter A Forbes

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 17:07:48 +0100, Odie Ferrous <odie_ferrous@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Peter,
>
>I've only just completed a horribly complex logical recovery of a hard
>disk that was totally and utterly trashed.
>
>Grisoft appears to have been the culprit in this case. I could be
>totally wrong, but I doubt it.
>
>My vote is for AVG, despite PC Pro (if you can believe a word they say)
>coming up with a more effective alternative, the name of which escapes
>me at present.
>
>I have both paid-for and free versions of AVG and tend to use only the
>free version, as I cannot determine any difference in virus detection
>ability between the two.
>
>
>Odie

Thanks for that, the extra info has convinced me that it was AVG and Zone Alarm
fighting over who got to play with the system first that has caused the
problems.

Having disabled zlclient.exe in the (run) registry, lo and behold, vsmon.exe
popped up again today and starting causing problems, so I have removed both Zone
Labs and AVG altogether, and things are a lot better now.

The firewall in our BT business modem is very good, and I used the Leak Tester
on the Spinrite site to make sure it was up to what BT claimed for it, so don't
feel to naked with no software firewall!

Suggest we close the issue now, many thanks to all who contributed.

Peter
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Rob Skinner

Hi Peter,
Sorry to hear of your Windows problems. One solution is to buy a Mac,
which doesn't get viruses.

> Having disabled zlclient.exe in the (run) registry

Registry? What's that?

> feel to naked with no software firewall!

Naked isn't necessarily bad.

Have a good weekend, amigo!
Rob

Peter A Forbes

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 06:52:48 -0700, Rob Skinner <rskinner@rustyiron.com> wrote:

>Hi Peter,
>Sorry to hear of your Windows problems. One solution is to buy a Mac,
>which doesn't get viruses.

Sorry, I can both recognise written language and use a keyboard...... Macs are
great for those folks who can do neither of these things, and need to have
pictures to follow :-))

>> Having disabled zlclient.exe in the (run) registry
>
>Registry? What's that?

Where you go to get married?

>> feel to naked with no software firewall!
>
>Naked isn't necessarily bad.

Depends who you are naked with....

>Have a good weekend, amigo!
>Rob
>

Going to fix some engines into steelwork for shipping if the weather stays a
little less damp than today.

Are you two going to Portland next month?

Peter
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Rob Skinner

On 2007-07-20 10:08:51 -0700, Peter A Forbes <diesel@easynet.co.uk> said:
> Sorry, I can both recognise written language and use a keyboard......
> Macs are great for those folks who can do neither of these things, and
> need to have pictures to follow :-))

Touche!

> Where you go to get married?

Gulp!

> Going to fix some engines into steelwork for shipping if the weather stays a
> little less damp than today.
>
> Are you two going to Portland next month?

No Portland for us this year.

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