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  #1
George
 
Default Denbigh C miller tools.

I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
getting a bit thin on the ground now.

It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.


Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.


Thanks for any info. Regards George.

 
  #2
George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
> in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
> to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
> Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
> they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
> been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
> getting a bit thin on the ground now.
>
> It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
> milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
> bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.
>
> Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
> be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
> double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
> 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.
>
> Thanks for any info. Regards George.


Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
started to find out how it might work.

It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
only used when a horizontal mill is used.

The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
description, with not much success.

Thanks for any comments, George.

 
  #3
George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
> > in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
> > to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
> > Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
> > they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
> > been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
> > getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>
> > It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
> > milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
> > bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>
> > Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
> > be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
> > double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
> > 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>
> > Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>
> Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
> trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
> stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
> started to find out how it might work.
>
> It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
> cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
> slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
> cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
> this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
> think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
> bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
> can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
> only used when a horizontal mill is used.
>
> The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
> knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
> much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
> description, with not much success.
>
> Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

 
  #4
John Stevenson
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:42:26 -0700, George <georgewbell@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
>> > in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
>> > to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
>> > Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
>> > they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
>> > been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
>> > getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>>
>> > It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
>> > milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
>> > bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>>
>> > Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
>> > be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
>> > double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
>> > 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>>
>> > Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>>
>> Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
>> trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
>> stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
>> started to find out how it might work.
>>
>> It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
>> cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
>> slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
>> cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
>> this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
>> think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
>> bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
>> can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
>> only used when a horizontal mill is used.
>>
>> The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
>> knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
>> much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
>> description, with not much success.
>>
>> Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html


George,
Used to have on of these many moons ago.
Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
would help.

 
  #5
George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 25 Jul, 19:30, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:42:26 -0700, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> >> > I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
> >> > in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
> >> > to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
> >> > Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
> >> > they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
> >> > been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
> >> > getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>
> >> > It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
> >> > milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
> >> > bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>
> >> > Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
> >> > be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
> >> > double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
> >> > 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>
> >> > Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>
> >> Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
> >> trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
> >> stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
> >> started to find out how it might work.

>
> >> It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
> >> cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
> >> slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
> >> cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
> >> this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
> >> think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
> >> bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
> >> can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
> >> only used when a horizontal mill is used.

>
> >> The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
> >> knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
> >> much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
> >> description, with not much success.

>
> >> Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>
> George,
> Used to have on of these many moons ago.
> Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.
>
> Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
> would help.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.

I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!

Regards George

 
  #6
George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 25 Jul, 21:55, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 25 Jul, 19:30, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:42:26 -0700, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:

>
> > >On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >> On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > >> > I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
> > >> > in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
> > >> > to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
> > >> > Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
> > >> > they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
> > >> > been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
> > >> > getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>
> > >> > It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
> > >> > milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
> > >> > bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>
> > >> > Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
> > >> > be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
> > >> > double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
> > >> > 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>
> > >> > Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>
> > >> Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
> > >> trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
> > >> stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
> > >> started to find out how it might work.

>
> > >> It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
> > >> cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
> > >> slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
> > >> cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
> > >> this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
> > >> think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
> > >> bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
> > >> can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
> > >> only used when a horizontal mill is used.

>
> > >> The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
> > >> knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
> > >> much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
> > >> description, with not much success.

>
> > >> Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > >There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>
> > George,
> > Used to have on of these many moons ago.
> > Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

>
> > Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
> > would help.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
> them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
> you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
> wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
> that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.
>
> I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
> first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
> place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!
>
> Regards George- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Hi John,

I have put some pictures of the Denbigh on the same page of my
website, these may jog your memory. I am going to lift the over arm
up with my front end loader. I've cleaned all the rust off it, so it
should go back OK.

Regards. George.

 
  #7
George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 26 Jul, 14:54, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On 25 Jul, 21:55, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Jul, 19:30, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk>
> > wrote:

>
> > > On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:42:26 -0700, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:

>
> > > >On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>
> > > >> > I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
> > > >> > in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
> > > >> > to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
> > > >> > Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
> > > >> > they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
> > > >> > been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
> > > >> > getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>
> > > >> > It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
> > > >> > milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
> > > >> > bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>
> > > >> > Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
> > > >> > be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
> > > >> > double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
> > > >> > 3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>
> > > >> > Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>
> > > >> Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
> > > >> trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
> > > >> stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
> > > >> started to find out how it might work.

>
> > > >> It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
> > > >> cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
> > > >> slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
> > > >> cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
> > > >> this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
> > > >> think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
> > > >> bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
> > > >> can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
> > > >> only used when a horizontal mill is used.

>
> > > >> The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
> > > >> knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
> > > >> much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
> > > >> description, with not much success.

>
> > > >> Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > >> - Show quoted text -

>
> > > >There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>
> > > George,
> > > Used to have on of these many moons ago.
> > > Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

>
> > > Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
> > > would help.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> > OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
> > them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
> > you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
> > wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
> > that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.

>
> > I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
> > first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
> > place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!

>
> > Regards George- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Hi John,
>
> I have put some pictures of the Denbigh on the same page of my
> website, these may jog your memory. I am going to lift the over arm
> up with my front end loader. I've cleaned all the rust off it, so it
> should go back OK.
>
> Regards. George.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


I feel a bit silly! There are 2 nuts on the outside of the gear box
which - when tightened, lock it at the appropriate angle to the bed.
I did not notice that they were not tight when I mounted the box. I
think I would prefer to have some sort of spring loaded detent to
locate the head at the zero angle position. There is a red knobbed
handle that appears to clamp something ( http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html
) and I can't see what, on the left hand side of the rear near the
motor lift handle for changing the belts to get different speeds. Any
ideas? Also the gear change knob on the LH side only seems to work in
the central - i.e. no gear selected position!

There is also a little brake or clamp under the LH side of the flat
table??? The mill has a fast motor braking box in the circuit to the
motor, I am not sure this is working. The 3 Phase is going through it,
but I have not seen it on any other pictures of other Denbighs. I may
dispense with this. I have not put the over arm back as it has been
piddling down with rain in Norfolk and I need to bring the tractor in
to lift it.

I think I shall have to buy the puller that holds tools in the No. 2
morse taper chuck. Where would be a good place to look for spares and
tools etc?

Regards George.

 
  #8
John Stevenson
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:16:00 -0700, George <georgewbell@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>> > > >There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>>
>> > > George,
>> > > Used to have on of these many moons ago.
>> > > Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

>>
>> > > Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
>> > > would help.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> > > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> > OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
>> > them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
>> > you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
>> > wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
>> > that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.

>>
>> > I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
>> > first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
>> > place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!

>>
>> > Regards George- Hide quoted text -

>>
>> > - Show quoted text -

>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> I have put some pictures of the Denbigh on the same page of my
>> website, these may jog your memory. I am going to lift the over arm
>> up with my front end loader. I've cleaned all the rust off it, so it
>> should go back OK.
>>
>> Regards. George.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -

>
>I feel a bit silly! There are 2 nuts on the outside of the gear box
>which - when tightened, lock it at the appropriate angle to the bed.
>I did not notice that they were not tight when I mounted the box. I
>think I would prefer to have some sort of spring loaded detent to
>locate the head at the zero angle position. There is a red knobbed
>handle that appears to clamp something ( http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html
>) and I can't see what, on the left hand side of the rear near the
>motor lift handle for changing the belts to get different speeds. Any
>ideas? Also the gear change knob on the LH side only seems to work in
>the central - i.e. no gear selected position!
>
>There is also a little brake or clamp under the LH side of the flat
>table??? The mill has a fast motor braking box in the circuit to the
>motor, I am not sure this is working. The 3 Phase is going through it,
>but I have not seen it on any other pictures of other Denbighs. I may
>dispense with this. I have not put the over arm back as it has been
>piddling down with rain in Norfolk and I need to bring the tractor in
>to lift it.
>
>I think I shall have to buy the puller that holds tools in the No. 2
>morse taper chuck. Where would be a good place to look for spares and
>tools etc?
>
>Regards George.


OK George, that's the same model we used to have at the last place I
worked.
Can't help with the red knobbed lever, can't recall one on ours.
The lever on the left operates the back gear, lift the lid to see what
happens.
From alcohol induced memory's the mains speeds are by belt and back
gear speeds are selected by the side lever and pulling or pushing a
peg in / out on the big cone pulley inside.
Failing to do this locks the drive [ handy for tightening the arbor].

Main horizontal spindle is whatever taper is in the head [ Morse 3 ? ]
parallel bit is 1" diameter [ most horizontal cutters are 1" bore and
1/4" key ] then reducing down to fit the over arm diameter.

The puller to hold the No 2 morse tooling in can be just a length of
studding on the right thread to suit the tooling. Usually 3/8" or 1/2"
Whit.
 
  #9
Tom
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

George wrote:

> On 26 Jul, 14:54, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On 25 Jul, 21:55, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>On 25 Jul, 19:30, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk>
>>>wrote:

>>
>>>>On Wed, 25 Jul 2007 10:42:26 -0700, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com>
>>>>wrote:

>>
>>>>>On 25 Jul, 18:22, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 20 Jul, 13:34, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>>
>>>>>>>I have just bought a large Denbigh C milling machine. It seems to be
>>>>>>>in good condition, but it comes with no tools at all and I must admit
>>>>>>>to being a beginner to milling. Does anyone in Norfolk, - N.E. of
>>>>>>>Norwich, have any large, suitable items, horizontal or vertical, that
>>>>>>>they might want to sell cheap - or donate to a good cause? I have
>>>>>>>been round a few car boot sales and these sort of things seem to be
>>>>>>>getting a bit thin on the ground now.

>>
>>>>>>>It would be very nice to get operators a manual as up to now my only
>>>>>>>milling experience is trying to do it on my old Herbert lathe. It's a
>>>>>>>bit different! I could scan and return anything you might have.

>>
>>>>>>>Oh yes, I have to collect it and I wonder how much it weighs. It must
>>>>>>>be over a ton. Does anyone know? It does not have the standard fit
>>>>>>>double slotted bracing bar, I can't imagine with the size of the 3
>>>>>>>3/8 inch over arm (pre- 1956) I will really need this.

>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for any info. Regards George.

>>
>>>>>>Well I got it home, about 15 miles going at most 25 mph with the
>>>>>>trailer creaking. Getting it off the trailer and onto a steel wheeled
>>>>>>stand was a game too, but now it is located properly and I have
>>>>>>started to find out how it might work.

>>
>>>>>>It has been dismantled a bit and the 3 3/4 top over arm is out. I
>>>>>>cannot lift it back on my own, but I got the horizontal to vertical
>>>>>>slotting head mounted but it just revolves through 360 degrees and I
>>>>>>cannot see what locks it in place. There is a graduated dial and when
>>>>>>this is zero it seems to be vertical, but what holds it? I don't
>>>>>>think it is the over arm and I don't think it is the double slotted
>>>>>>bracing bar, which is missing, as there does not seem to be any way it
>>>>>>can be located by either of these. The over arm looks as if it is
>>>>>>only used when a horizontal mill is used.

>>
>>>>>>The motor operates and the table has a drive to it, but if anyone
>>>>>>knows this mill and can throw any light on the above, I would be very
>>>>>>much obliged. I have spent hours Googling site for a manual and or
>>>>>>description, with not much success.

>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any comments, George.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>>>>>>- Show quoted text -

>>
>>>>>There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>>
>>>>George,
>>>>Used to have on of these many moons ago.
>>>>Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

>>
>>>>Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
>>>>would help.- Hide quoted text -

>>
>>>>- Show quoted text -

>>
>>>OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
>>>them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
>>>you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
>>>wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
>>>that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.

>>
>>>I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
>>>first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
>>>place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!

>>
>>>Regards George- Hide quoted text -

>>
>>>- Show quoted text -

>>
>>Hi John,
>>
>>I have put some pictures of the Denbigh on the same page of my
>>website, these may jog your memory. I am going to lift the over arm
>>up with my front end loader. I've cleaned all the rust off it, so it
>>should go back OK.
>>
>>Regards. George.- Hide quoted text -
>>
>>- Show quoted text -

>
>
> I feel a bit silly! There are 2 nuts on the outside of the gear box
> which - when tightened, lock it at the appropriate angle to the bed.
> I did not notice that they were not tight when I mounted the box. I
> think I would prefer to have some sort of spring loaded detent to
> locate the head at the zero angle position. There is a red knobbed
> handle that appears to clamp something ( http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html
> ) and I can't see what, on the left hand side of the rear near the
> motor lift handle for changing the belts to get different speeds. Any
> ideas? Also the gear change knob on the LH side only seems to work in
> the central - i.e. no gear selected position!
>
> There is also a little brake or clamp under the LH side of the flat
> table??? The mill has a fast motor braking box in the circuit to the
> motor, I am not sure this is working. The 3 Phase is going through it,
> but I have not seen it on any other pictures of other Denbighs. I may
> dispense with this. I have not put the over arm back as it has been
> piddling down with rain in Norfolk and I need to bring the tractor in
> to lift it.
>
> I think I shall have to buy the puller that holds tools in the No. 2
> morse taper chuck. Where would be a good place to look for spares and
> tools etc?
>
> Regards George.
>

Did you get my message, George?

Tom
 
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George
 
Default Re: Denbigh C miller tools.

On 26 Jul, 21:36, John Stevenson <j...@stevenson-engineers.co.uk>
wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:16:00 -0700, George <georgewb...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > > >There is a picture of it at http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html

>
> >> > > George,
> >> > > Used to have on of these many moons ago.
> >> > > Any chance of a couple of either side pic's to job my memory.

>
> >> > > Didn't have the vertical head for it though so better pic's of that
> >> > > would help.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> > > - Show quoted text -

>
> >> > OK John, thanks for replying. I shall take a few tomorrow and post
> >> > them on my website at lunchtime. If you did not use the vertical box
> >> > you must have had a shaft on which to mount slitting saws or milling
> >> > wheels, etc. so was this shaft supported by the over arm? I notice
> >> > that there does seem to be a bearing in the end projection of this.

>
> >> > I might be able to make a shaft if it is that simple. I think the
> >> > first thing to do is to lift the overarm up and slide it back into
> >> > place. I wish I knew the names for all these bits!

>
> >> > Regards George- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> > - Show quoted text -

>
> >> Hi John,

>
> >> I have put some pictures of the Denbigh on the same page of my
> >> website, these may jog your memory. I am going to lift the over arm
> >> up with my front end loader. I've cleaned all the rust off it, so it
> >> should go back OK.

>
> >> Regards. George.- Hide quoted text -

>
> >> - Show quoted text -

>
> >I feel a bit silly! There are 2 nuts on the outside of the gear box
> >which - when tightened, lock it at the appropriate angle to the bed.
> >I did not notice that they were not tight when I mounted the box. I
> >think I would prefer to have some sort of spring loaded detent to
> >locate the head at the zero angle position. There is a red knobbed
> >handle that appears to clamp something (http://maribelecosystems.com/OldEngines.html
> >) and I can't see what, on the left hand side of the rear near the
> >motor lift handle for changing the belts to get different speeds. Any
> >ideas? Also the gear change knob on the LH side only seems to work in
> >the central - i.e. no gear selected position!

>
> >There is also a little brake or clamp under the LH side of the flat
> >table??? The mill has a fast motor braking box in the circuit to the
> >motor, I am not sure this is working. The 3 Phase is going through it,
> >but I have not seen it on any other pictures of other Denbighs. I may
> >dispense with this. I have not put the over arm back as it has been
> >piddling down with rain in Norfolk and I need to bring the tractor in
> >to lift it.

>
> >I think I shall have to buy the puller that holds tools in the No. 2
> >morse taper chuck. Where would be a good place to look for spares and
> >tools etc?

>
> >Regards George.

>
> OK George, that's the same model we used to have at the last place I
> worked.
> Can't help with the red knobbed lever, can't recall one on ours.
> The lever on the left operates the back gear, lift the lid to see what
> happens.
> From alcohol induced memory's the mains speeds are by belt and back
> gear speeds are selected by the side lever and pulling or pushing a
> peg in / out on the big cone pulley inside.
> Failing to do this locks the drive [ handy for tightening the arbor].
>
> Main horizontal spindle is whatever taper is in the head [ Morse 3 ? ]
> parallel bit is 1" diameter [ most horizontal cutters are 1" bore and
> 1/4" key ] then reducing down to fit the over arm diameter.
>
> The puller to hold the No 2 morse tooling in can be just a length of
> studding on the right thread to suit the tooling. Usually 3/8" or 1/2"
> Whit.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Just what I need John, you will have guessed that I am not a
mechanical Engineer by trade! Does the main horizontal spindle need
to be bought or do you think I could fabricate one? What length does
it usually have and what holds the cutters on - is it threaded? Where
might I get one? (And some appropriate tools). If I searched on
EBay, What would I be looking for, i.e. would they be called Denbigh
or any other 1/2" milling tools for example

Thanks very much. George.

 
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