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  #1
Tia
 
Default Which one for newbie

Hi all

Maybe this question has been asked many times - sorry if it has!
We live in an area which could produce some good Roman finds (Hadrian's
Wall). Would like to work on inland field sites and also on the foreshore
sometimes. I think I'm getting to grips with which models are regarded as
decent brands and would like some suggestions. I have looked at these
models - Bounty Hunter Tracker IV and White's Prizm II. I am prepared to
spend up to the price of the Prizm II if it will be a big improvement over
the Tracker IV for the purposes I'd like.
The detector will possibly also be used sometimes by an 11yr old if she can
wrench it away from me!

Input would be gratefully appreciated.

Cheers
Tia



 
  #2
Lee Davison
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Im not a great fan of the Tracker IV, too sensitive to wet sand you just get
an rearphone of rubbish if the ground condition changes. Ive never used a
prizm though.
"Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> Maybe this question has been asked many times - sorry if it has!
> We live in an area which could produce some good Roman finds (Hadrian's
> Wall). Would like to work on inland field sites and also on the foreshore
> sometimes. I think I'm getting to grips with which models are regarded as
> decent brands and would like some suggestions. I have looked at these
> models - Bounty Hunter Tracker IV and White's Prizm II. I am prepared to
> spend up to the price of the Prizm II if it will be a big improvement over
> the Tracker IV for the purposes I'd like.
> The detector will possibly also be used sometimes by an 11yr old if she

can
> wrench it away from me!
>
> Input would be gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Tia
>
>
>



 
  #3
Jim & Debbie
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Likewise, but I'd imagine the prizm to have better capabilities !
If the 11 year old is likely to be using it quite often, weight should play
a big part in your decision.

Regards

Jim


 
  #4
Tia
 
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"Lee Davison" <lee.j.davison@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Im not a great fan of the Tracker IV, too sensitive to wet sand you just

get
> an rearphone of rubbish if the ground condition changes. Ive never used a
> prizm though.


Many thanks for that information. It's invaluable to get info like this
from the horse's mouth. If it wasn't being used on the foreshore would it
still be worth considering for inland field-based detecting?

Cheers
Tia
PS "rearphone" - do I need an different jack for that location? :-))) <VBG>


> "Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:d1jqan$a1v$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Maybe this question has been asked many times - sorry if it has!
> > We live in an area which could produce some good Roman finds (Hadrian's
> > Wall). Would like to work on inland field sites and also on the

foreshore
> > sometimes. I think I'm getting to grips with which models are regarded

as
> > decent brands and would like some suggestions. I have looked at these
> > models - Bounty Hunter Tracker IV and White's Prizm II. I am prepared

to
> > spend up to the price of the Prizm II if it will be a big improvement

over
> > the Tracker IV for the purposes I'd like.
> > The detector will possibly also be used sometimes by an 11yr old if she

> can
> > wrench it away from me!
> >
> > Input would be gratefully appreciated.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Tia
> >
> >
> >

>
>



 
  #5
Tia
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie


"Jim & Debbie" <jim@sewell01.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Likewise, but I'd imagine the prizm to have better capabilities !
> If the 11 year old is likely to be using it quite often, weight should

play
> a big part in your decision.
>
> Regards
>
> Jim


Hi Jim

Thanks also for your input. Certainly the Prizm II seems to be the choice
at the moment.
The 11yr old will have limited access and be helped and supervised. At the
moment I don't think her attention span would mean she would spend any great
length of time using it. Does anybody attach their detectors to harnesses
like you do with a brushcutter?

Thanks again
Tia


 
  #6
Revvy
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie


"Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "Jim & Debbie" <jim@sewell01.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:d1kf6i$mtb$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
>> Likewise, but I'd imagine the prizm to have better capabilities !
>> If the 11 year old is likely to be using it quite often, weight should

> play
>> a big part in your decision.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Jim

>
> Hi Jim
>
> Thanks also for your input. Certainly the Prizm II seems to be the choice
> at the moment.
> The 11yr old will have limited access and be helped and supervised. At
> the
> moment I don't think her attention span would mean she would spend any
> great
> length of time using it. Does anybody attach their detectors to harnesses
> like you do with a brushcutter?
>
> Thanks again
> Tia
>
>


Hi Tia
Whites machines are generally not too heavy but I do not know about the
weight of the Prism. Even a light machine will feel heavier after a while of
swinging until your biceps get bigger. Mine are massive, Bingo Wings have
got nothing on me, I've got a Minelab.
I have used a harness and, although it took the weight off the machine, I
found it limited my swing and was awkward when getting down to get the find
out of the hole. I wouldn't worry about your daughter keeping it from you.
She will give it up pretty quickly when her arms are busting. I would say
that you probably will not need a harness for the White's.
Good luck
Rev


 
  #7
Tia
 
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"Revvy" <not@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> news:d1l3n4$k5l$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> >
> > "Jim & Debbie" <jim@sewell01.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:d1kf6i$mtb$1@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk...
> >> Likewise, but I'd imagine the prizm to have better capabilities !
> >> If the 11 year old is likely to be using it quite often, weight should

> > play
> >> a big part in your decision.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Jim

> >
> > Hi Jim
> >
> > Thanks also for your input. Certainly the Prizm II seems to be the

choice
> > at the moment.
> > The 11yr old will have limited access and be helped and supervised. At
> > the
> > moment I don't think her attention span would mean she would spend any
> > great
> > length of time using it. Does anybody attach their detectors to

harnesses
> > like you do with a brushcutter?
> >
> > Thanks again
> > Tia
> >
> >

>
> Hi Tia
> Whites machines are generally not too heavy but I do not know about the
> weight of the Prism. Even a light machine will feel heavier after a while

of
> swinging until your biceps get bigger. Mine are massive, Bingo Wings have
> got nothing on me, I've got a Minelab.
> I have used a harness and, although it took the weight off the machine, I
> found it limited my swing and was awkward when getting down to get the

find
> out of the hole. I wouldn't worry about your daughter keeping it from you.
> She will give it up pretty quickly when her arms are busting. I would say
> that you probably will not need a harness for the White's.
> Good luck
> Rev


Hi Rev
Many thanks for the reply.
If I knew what Bingo Wings were, I'd probably be quite impressed :-)
I had thought about the limitations of a harness, and had come to the same
conclusion ie, that it would probably interfere a bit much.
Looks like the choice is the Prizm II, unless anyone has something horrid to
say about it!

Cheers
Tia


 
  #8
Lee Davison
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

lol sorry, Earphones, the ones that go on your head, not rearphones the ones
that go up your... anyway I dont feel as if I can recommend a Tracker IV for
anyone new. Ive been out with newb friends and theyve been baffled when it
makes noises and theres nothing there (frequent background chatter) We ended
up swapping and I ended up remembering why I bought a new machine.
I do have a £5 c Scope I got from a car boot, old, no frills but out
performs the T IV
Hope this is useful. maybe my bad experience is a one off, I have never had
the meachine checked for faults.
Regards
Lee


 
  #9
Tia
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

"Lee Davison" <lee.j.davison@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d1nijd$l5j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> lol sorry, Earphones, the ones that go on your head, not rearphones the

ones
> that go up your... anyway I dont feel as if I can recommend a Tracker IV

for
> anyone new. Ive been out with newb friends and theyve been baffled when it
> makes noises and theres nothing there (frequent background chatter) We

ended
> up swapping and I ended up remembering why I bought a new machine.
> I do have a £5 c Scope I got from a car boot, old, no frills but out
> performs the T IV
> Hope this is useful. maybe my bad experience is a one off, I have never

had
> the meachine checked for faults.
> Regards
> Lee


Hi Lee

Many thanks for your input. Looks like another nail in the coffin for the
Tracker.
White's Prizm II it will be then.

Cheers
Tia


 
  #10
John Cutler
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Hi Tia,

Have you looked at the Laser Hawkeye?

John.


"Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> "Lee Davison" <lee.j.davison@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d1nijd$l5j$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > lol sorry, Earphones, the ones that go on your head, not rearphones the

> ones
> > that go up your... anyway I dont feel as if I can recommend a Tracker IV

> for
> > anyone new. Ive been out with newb friends and theyve been baffled when

it
> > makes noises and theres nothing there (frequent background chatter) We

> ended
> > up swapping and I ended up remembering why I bought a new machine.
> > I do have a £5 c Scope I got from a car boot, old, no frills but out
> > performs the T IV
> > Hope this is useful. maybe my bad experience is a one off, I have never

> had
> > the meachine checked for faults.
> > Regards
> > Lee

>
> Hi Lee
>
> Many thanks for your input. Looks like another nail in the coffin for the
> Tracker.
> White's Prizm II it will be then.
>
> Cheers
> Tia
>
>



 
  #11
Tia
 
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"John Cutler" <jmc@phoenix-auto.fsnet.co.ukINVALID> wrote in message
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> Hi Tia,
>
> Have you looked at the Laser Hawkeye?
>
> John.


Hi John

Yes, I've looked at it and it looks good, I then looked at the price :-)
I really can't justify nearly 600 UKP on a first time machine. However, on
the other hand I want something that has some decent functionality and build
quality. It's finding the ideal halfway between what I'd like and what I
can have :-))

Cheers
Tia


 
  #12
John Cutler
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Hi Tia,

Afriend of mine has a Hawkeye, and he thinks it is the best thing since
sliced bread, and hes been tecting for 30 years. They are very light for
your daughter and you to use. He had a very good find with it the weekend
before last, a Richard 111 groat in V Fine condition! If you would like a
pic of it forward me your E Mail addy.

John.

"Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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>
> "John Cutler" <jmc@phoenix-auto.fsnet.co.ukINVALID> wrote in message
> news:d1p2qp$qio$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Hi Tia,
> >
> > Have you looked at the Laser Hawkeye?
> >
> > John.

>
> Hi John
>
> Yes, I've looked at it and it looks good, I then looked at the price :-)
> I really can't justify nearly 600 UKP on a first time machine. However,

on
> the other hand I want something that has some decent functionality and

build
> quality. It's finding the ideal halfway between what I'd like and what I
> can have :-))
>
> Cheers
> Tia
>
>



 
  #13
tinsmith
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie


Hi, ive only had a tracker for afew weeks and have had some great fun
,it does take abit of getting use to and is certainly light better than
my c 660
However, a friend has a garret 250 and this performs just as well if
not better , so perhaps thats another one to consider

 
  #14
Lee Davison
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Tia,
If theres one to go for, its the Minelab Sovereign. A few different types
available nowadays, some cheaper than others but an all around excellent
machine on both wet /dry sand and soil. Got one myself and I would never
sell, even though I have an Explorer as the main.
Lee

"tinsmith" <stevejspr@aol.com> wrote in message
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>
> Hi, ive only had a tracker for afew weeks and have had some great fun
> ,it does take abit of getting use to and is certainly light better than
> my c 660
> However, a friend has a garret 250 and this performs just as well if
> not better , so perhaps thats another one to consider
>



 
  #15
Revvy
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

I use Minelab Sov. and is one I would never part with but it would be far
too heavy for your daughter.
Even you would struggle with the weight to start with. I do hip mount the
control box which makes a big difference. Doing this with a small coil, your
daughter would manage. Because of the required slow swing and a small coil,
you would not cover much ground compared with other machines.
Rev.

"Lee Davison" <lee.j.davison@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Tia,
> If theres one to go for, its the Minelab Sovereign. A few different types
> available nowadays, some cheaper than others but an all around excellent
> machine on both wet /dry sand and soil. Got one myself and I would never
> sell, even though I have an Explorer as the main.
> Lee
>
> "tinsmith" <stevejspr@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1111513372.651748.176690@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>
>> Hi, ive only had a tracker for afew weeks and have had some great fun
>> ,it does take abit of getting use to and is certainly light better than
>> my c 660
>> However, a friend has a garret 250 and this performs just as well if
>> not better , so perhaps thats another one to consider
>>

>
>



 
  #16
Steve Wright
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Hiya,

I would seriously consider a Laser Rapier if you've got access to Roman
sites, Very very light and user friendly, Tried and tested machines with
excellent switch on go capabilities. I have a Rapier as a back up to my
Explorer II and love using it. Take mine on my hols too, so light and well
built that it breaks down small enough to get it in hand luggage. Very very
good machine overall and cost £425 in the magazine ads but could be bought a
lot cheaper if you walked into a detector shop with ten pound notes and no
trade in.
Incidentally I have absolutely nothing to do with the detector trade just
offering my four penny worth ;o)

Hope this helps


Steve

"Tia" <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:d1jqan$a1v$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
> Hi all
>
> Maybe this question has been asked many times - sorry if it has!
> We live in an area which could produce some good Roman finds (Hadrian's
> Wall). Would like to work on inland field sites and also on the foreshore
> sometimes. I think I'm getting to grips with which models are regarded as
> decent brands and would like some suggestions. I have looked at these
> models - Bounty Hunter Tracker IV and White's Prizm II. I am prepared to
> spend up to the price of the Prizm II if it will be a big improvement over
> the Tracker IV for the purposes I'd like.
> The detector will possibly also be used sometimes by an 11yr old if she
> can
> wrench it away from me!
>
> Input would be gratefully appreciated.
>
> Cheers
> Tia
>
>
>



 
  #17
Lee Davison
 
Default Re: Which one for newbie

Yup, Sorry I forgot the original point of the post, it is a heavy bugger, I
get tired after a few hours swinging and im peak of life at 25 YO.

"Revvy" <not@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4241a2ab$0$65064$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
> I use Minelab Sov. and is one I would never part with but it would be far
> too heavy for your daughter.
> Even you would struggle with the weight to start with. I do hip mount the
> control box which makes a big difference. Doing this with a small coil,

your
> daughter would manage. Because of the required slow swing and a small

coil,
> you would not cover much ground compared with other machines.
> Rev.
>
> "Lee Davison" <lee.j.davison@NOSPAMbtinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:d1pues$q0n$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
> > Tia,
> > If theres one to go for, its the Minelab Sovereign. A few different

types
> > available nowadays, some cheaper than others but an all around excellent
> > machine on both wet /dry sand and soil. Got one myself and I would never
> > sell, even though I have an Explorer as the main.
> > Lee
> >
> > "tinsmith" <stevejspr@aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:1111513372.651748.176690@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> >>
> >> Hi, ive only had a tracker for afew weeks and have had some great fun
> >> ,it does take abit of getting use to and is certainly light better than
> >> my c 660
> >> However, a friend has a garret 250 and this performs just as well if
> >> not better , so perhaps thats another one to consider
> >>

> >
> >

>
>



 
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