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Hello everyone
Im a newbie and want a good detector , so I've heard about the new ML Quattro, should be easy to use and understand. So is it the right choice? |
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Hmmm... thats like asking "Whats the best tasting dessert in the
world?" For everyone that says the Quattro is the bomb, you'll find someone who says it sucks. Everyone pushed their own detector. The Whites fans will tell you "No". Garrett fans will tell you "No" Quattro owners will tell you "Yes". However... probably the most interesting debate takes place between owners of the Minelab Explorer and the Minelab Quattro. That said, heres a "cut and paste" from one of the best Quattro threads I've found, by Andy Sabsich. Andy is the author of several books including: "Mastering the Minelab Quattro". _______ Begin Cut and Paste_______ In Response To: How many people that have a Quattro would rather have an Explorer II ? Nor sure why this seems to be a tired topic but once again . . . THE QUATTRO IS NOT AN EXPLORER! It was never developed to fill the role of being an Explorer III and has never been promoted as such by Minelab. Many seasoned Explorer users know that the Explorer is about as simple as any top-end detector to operate but many new users do NOT feel that way. The advice so often given to newbies of "Use Iron Mask -16 and learn what the detector is telling you" sounds great but often confuses users who move on to some other detector. This is a good way to hunt for some applications and is not the recommended hunt technique in all situations, especially trashy sites. The Quattro has many of the options that were set and forgot on the Explorer hard coded into the software to eliminate the "confusion". There were some other changes to the software that allow the Quattro to provide faster and more consistent target lock-on instead of the "bouncing cursor" or changing dual-digital indications on the Explorer II. Should you get rid of an Explorer to get a Quattro? Well, if simplicity is more of a factor than squeezing every possible inch of detection depth, then the Quattro may be the detector of choice. I've talked with several hunters that had tried the Explorer and for one of several reasons, had decided it was not for them. Well, after a time or two with the Quattro, they are once again swinging a Minelab. In many areas, the Quattro will offer performance other detectors can not meet and even if it does not go deeper than the EXII, it offers performance without any adjustments. Both the EXII and Quattro are excellent detectors albeit for different segments of the market. Define what is most important to you . . . . ability to tweak settings, target lock-on, etc. . . . and then learn the detector you select. Just another viewpoint . . . Andy Sabsich In Response To: I have an Exp & bought a Quattro for a back up machine If you are strictly talking about "adjustability" or raw detection depth, then yes, the Explorer II is a better detector than the Quattro. However, for many that want a true "turn-on-and-go" detector with a much shorter learning curve that gives detection depth close to that of the Explorer, then the QUattro is not a lesser detector. Again, why do you think Minelab came out with the Quattro? To convert existing satisifed Explorer users or reach the segment of the market that wanted FBS technology without the perceived difficulty of the Explorer? Lesser is in the eye of the beholder . . . . . . I have had a few seasoned Explorer users tell me that they had bought a Quattro as a backup or for their child / spouse and then after trying it a bit, have relegated their Explorer to a backup role or for use in specific challenging sites. The ease-of-use and enhanced target id lock-on and pinpointing circuitry was better in their eyes. My son - who has been hunting since he was 4 and can have any detector he wants (thanks to a dad that is too easy when it comes to detectors) - can set the Explorer and Quattro but would not use one in the field. His detectors of choice are the Minelab Musketeer Advantage (anyone seen his picture in the Minelab catalog?) and the Tesoro Tejon or Silver uMax with the Clean Sweep coil (for hunts). Are these "lesser" detectors than the Explorer? For him, most assuredly not . . . . . he finds things in areas others have long since given up on and for those that have met him at organized hunts, you know that he has competed in adult hunts since he was 10 and almost always places in the top 10 hunters. I know this is not a Bounty Hunter or Garrett forum but my daughter at 10 is extremely proficient with her Bounty Hunter 2200 and new Garrett Ace 250. Again, are they lesser detectors? For her, the Explorer is not even an option! So, when you define "LESSER", you need to determine what is important in a detector for YOU and what will enable you to be successful. If you are someone that wants to hunt but is either a technophobe or someone that simply wants to turn it on and dig targets, then the Explorer may be a lesser detector in your eyes. On the other hand, if you want to squeeze every last inch out of what today's detector technology can provide and are willing to put in the time to learn the detector, then you are right in saying "anything less than an Explorer II is a lesser detector". Have a great day, Andy Sabisch _______ End Cut and Paste _______ Need more information? You might be better off directing your questions to one of the detecting groups below. Go to any one of them and use the search bar to search on "Quattro". http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/foru...bs/explorer.pl http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.p... 64&board=4.0 This group which is Quattro specific: (its a brand new group so posts are at a minimum) http://www.findmall.com/forums/index.php?showforum=47 Elton |
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Thanks for the info , I found it very useful .
And I will get the Quattro soon , I think I will learn faster with it even if its advanced, you have all the automatic programs and it should do the job for me, searching for coins and relics in parks and beaches. balo <eltonnoway@mail.com> wrote in message news:1115189048.117652.10100@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com... > Hmmm... thats like asking "Whats the best tasting dessert in the > world?" For everyone that says the Quattro is the bomb, you'll find > someone who says it sucks. Everyone pushed their own detector. The > Whites fans will tell you "No". Garrett fans will tell you "No" > Quattro owners will tell you "Yes". However... probably the most > interesting debate takes place between owners of the Minelab Explorer > and the Minelab Quattro. > > That said, heres a "cut and paste" from one of the best Quattro threads > I've found, by Andy Sabsich. Andy is the author of several books > including: "Mastering the Minelab Quattro". > > _______ Begin Cut and Paste_______ > > In Response To: How many people that have a Quattro would rather have > an Explorer II ? > > Nor sure why this seems to be a tired topic but once again . . . THE > QUATTRO IS NOT AN EXPLORER! It was never developed to fill the role of > being an Explorer III and has never been promoted as such by Minelab. > > Many seasoned Explorer users know that the Explorer is about as simple > as any top-end detector to operate but many new users do NOT feel that > way. The advice so often given to newbies of "Use Iron Mask -16 and > learn what the detector is telling you" sounds great but often confuses > users who move on to some other detector. This is a good way to hunt > for some applications and is not the recommended hunt technique in all > situations, especially trashy sites. > > The Quattro has many of the options that were set and forgot on the > Explorer hard coded into the software to eliminate the "confusion". > There were some other changes to the software that allow the Quattro to > provide faster and more consistent target lock-on instead of the > "bouncing cursor" or changing dual-digital indications on the Explorer > II. > > Should you get rid of an Explorer to get a Quattro? Well, if simplicity > is more of a factor than squeezing every possible inch of detection > depth, then the Quattro may be the detector of choice. I've talked with > several hunters that had tried the Explorer and for one of several > reasons, had decided it was not for them. Well, after a time or two > with the Quattro, they are once again swinging a Minelab. > > In many areas, the Quattro will offer performance other detectors can > not meet and even if it does not go deeper than the EXII, it offers > performance without any adjustments. > > Both the EXII and Quattro are excellent detectors albeit for different > segments of the market. Define what is most important to you . . . . > ability to tweak settings, target lock-on, etc. . . . and then learn > the detector you select. > > Just another viewpoint . . . > > Andy Sabsich > > In Response To: I have an Exp & bought a Quattro for a back up machine > > If you are strictly talking about "adjustability" or raw detection > depth, then yes, the Explorer II is a better detector than the Quattro. > However, for many that want a true "turn-on-and-go" detector with a > much shorter learning curve that gives detection depth close to that of > the Explorer, then the QUattro is not a lesser detector. > > Again, why do you think Minelab came out with the Quattro? To convert > existing satisifed Explorer users or reach the segment of the market > that wanted FBS technology without the perceived difficulty of the > Explorer? > > Lesser is in the eye of the beholder . . . . . . I have had a few > seasoned Explorer users tell me that they had bought a Quattro as a > backup or for their child / spouse and then after trying it a bit, have > relegated their Explorer to a backup role or for use in specific > challenging sites. The ease-of-use and enhanced target id lock-on and > pinpointing circuitry was better in their eyes. > > My son - who has been hunting since he was 4 and can have any detector > he wants (thanks to a dad that is too easy when it comes to detectors) > - can set the Explorer and Quattro but would not use one in the field. > His detectors of choice are the Minelab Musketeer Advantage (anyone > seen his picture in the Minelab catalog?) and the Tesoro Tejon or > Silver uMax with the Clean Sweep coil (for hunts). Are these "lesser" > detectors than the Explorer? For him, most assuredly not . . . . . he > finds things in areas others have long since given up on and for those > that have met him at organized hunts, you know that he has competed in > adult hunts since he was 10 and almost always places in the top 10 > hunters. I know this is not a Bounty Hunter or Garrett forum but my > daughter at 10 is extremely proficient with her Bounty Hunter 2200 and > new Garrett Ace 250. Again, are they lesser detectors? For her, the > Explorer is not even an option! > > So, when you define "LESSER", you need to determine what is important > in a detector for YOU and what will enable you to be successful. If you > are someone that wants to hunt but is either a technophobe or someone > that simply wants to turn it on and dig targets, then the Explorer may > be a lesser detector in your eyes. On the other hand, if you want to > squeeze every last inch out of what today's detector technology can > provide and are willing to put in the time to learn the detector, then > you are right in saying "anything less than an Explorer II is a lesser > detector". > > Have a great day, > > Andy Sabisch > > _______ End Cut and Paste _______ > > Need more information? You might be better off directing your questions > to one of the detecting groups below. Go to any one of them and use the > search bar to search on "Quattro". > > http://www.findmall.com/cgi-bin/foru...bs/explorer.pl > > http://www.treasurenet.com/f/index.p... 64&board=4.0 > > This group which is Quattro specific: (its a brand new group so posts > are at a minimum) > http://www.findmall.com/forums/index.php?showforum=47 > > Elton > |