Steven Trudgill

My father works on a farm that is owned by Hertfordshire County
Council. I had an agreement with the farm manager (my father's boss)
regarding metal detecting on the farmland - he would advise which
fields I could and couldn't use.

I have now been told that as the farm is actually owned by the
council, the farm manager isn't in a position to grant permission to
detect on the land. I sent an email to the council - here is the
reply:

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The County Council has a policy of not permitting metal detecting on
any of its land or property. This policy was agreed at a meeting of
the Finance and Resources Committee on 26 April 1979, partly to
protect the Council owned archaeological heritage from damage and
theft and partly to save the considerable amount of officer time that
was being spent, at that time, on dealing with requests for permission
to detect on Council land.

This policy is still in force and is not likely to be relaxed.

Charles Franklin,
Principal Land Agent.
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Has anyone else had any success with Hertfordshire County Council, or
should I just give up and put our 2 IDX Pro's up for sale on Ebay?

Where does the DEFRA ELS scheme fit into all this (if anywhere) ?
- as mentioned in the NCMD News Bulletin No. 37
Will any of the councils be entering their farms into this scheme?

According to this bulletin, Hertfordshire County Council have signed
up to the PAS Data Transfer Agreement - does this have any relevance?

Any suggestions/comments welcomed...

Thanks in advance (and apologies for the long post...)

Steven

Lee Davison

Sounds like a question for the F.I.D and N.C.M.D directly. Theyve done a lot
of work on the DEFRA scheme and might be able to dig deeper.
An interesting read, thanks for posting it.

Lee


"Steven Trudgill" <steven@nospamtrudgill.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:vuscr11lgkoth8v8gc3tllr0qhhm8r8068@4ax.com...
> My father works on a farm that is owned by Hertfordshire County
> Council. I had an agreement with the farm manager (my father's boss)
> regarding metal detecting on the farmland - he would advise which
> fields I could and couldn't use.
>
> I have now been told that as the farm is actually owned by the
> council, the farm manager isn't in a position to grant permission to
> detect on the land. I sent an email to the council - here is the
> reply:
>
> ================================================== ====
> The County Council has a policy of not permitting metal detecting on
> any of its land or property. This policy was agreed at a meeting of
> the Finance and Resources Committee on 26 April 1979, partly to
> protect the Council owned archaeological heritage from damage and
> theft and partly to save the considerable amount of officer time that
> was being spent, at that time, on dealing with requests for permission
> to detect on Council land.
>
> This policy is still in force and is not likely to be relaxed.
>
> Charles Franklin,
> Principal Land Agent.
> ================================================== ====
>
> Has anyone else had any success with Hertfordshire County Council, or
> should I just give up and put our 2 IDX Pro's up for sale on Ebay?
>
> Where does the DEFRA ELS scheme fit into all this (if anywhere) ?
> - as mentioned in the NCMD News Bulletin No. 37
> Will any of the councils be entering their farms into this scheme?
>
> According to this bulletin, Hertfordshire County Council have signed
> up to the PAS Data Transfer Agreement - does this have any relevance?
>
> Any suggestions/comments welcomed...
>
> Thanks in advance (and apologies for the long post...)
>
> Steven

Jim & Debbie

>> My father works on a farm that is owned by Hertfordshire County
>> Council. I had an agreement with the farm manager (my father's boss)
>> regarding metal detecting on the farmland - he would advise which
>> fields I could and couldn't use.
>>
>> I have now been told that as the farm is actually owned by the
>> council, the farm manager isn't in a position to grant permission to
>> detect on the land. I sent an email to the council - here is the
>> reply:


Hi Steven,
I did a mail drop to a lot of local council's whilst
running the Smartgroup a year or so back...
If any of the responses from other councils offer you any ammunition to
argue the point, please feel free to copy them...
http://www.smartgroups.com/database/...SC&showNum=100

You might need to sign in to view this, but it's worth it !
Some councils are all to keen for us to pursue our hobby, others worry about
broken ankles in holes...

Good luck...

Jim

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Jim & Debbie

Following on from my last post Steven, send them details of what "Caterbury"
and "Cambridge" say with regards their archaeological status....

That should get them.

Jim

Steven Trudgill

Thanks for this - I will follow up and post the results (if any)
here...


On Tue, 3 Jan 2006 12:16:32 -0000, "Jim & Debbie"
<jim@sewell01.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

>Following on from my last post Steven, send them details of what "Caterbury"
>and "Cambridge" say with regards their archaeological status....
>
>That should get them.
>
>Jim
>

STEVEN BANCROFT

Thats why there are nighthawks, Who can blame them?

Jim & Debbie

> Thats why there are nighthawks, Who can blame them?


Although I'd never agree with nighthawking, you can see why some will be
pushed over the edge.
It is though, nothing but theft as the sites that are hawked are those with
archae interest (usually scheduled) not just the average bit of common land
owned by the council. There is a big difference !!!


Jim