WiFi on CB...?

Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...

shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...?

would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting
we could transmit on "radio"

I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth...

simply replies only thx.... :>0

Tony

In article <cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>,
tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk (tonester) wrote:

> would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting
> we could transmit on "radio"

Not egally - the transmission mode is wrong.

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

Hello,

You can transmit any mode on any frequency you like but need to be licenced
to do so, have access to equipment that is capable, or be able to design
your own and build it.
Packet has all been done before on CB going back to 1988 when I had a go
with a Ham International Multimode 2 and a PK-88. Due to the limitation of
the radios bandwidth it would only operate at 300baud on SSB and 1200baud on
FM. A few friends modified a couple of standard UK40 CBs and got them to
work at speeds of 9600baud but it was unreliable. Just hook up a beam to a
WiFi card and away you go, much easier than messing about with CBs that use
outdated technology and have little following now.

"tonester" <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
> the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...
>
> shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...?
>
> would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting we
> could transmit on "radio"
>
> I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth...
>
> simply replies only thx.... :>0
>
> Tony

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:51:26 +0000, tonester wrote:

> Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4
> ghz??? the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster
> Packet"...

Not practical on 27 MHz. A Wi-Fi (802.11b) transmission has a bandwidth
of about 22 MHz so your theoretical Wi-Fi CB would be transmitting
everywhere between 16 MHz and 38 MHz simultaneously (and that's only for
one channel).

> shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...?

Not exactly the same - you're allowed slightly more bandwidth on 2 meters
due to the wider channel spacing.

> would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting
> we could transmit on "radio"

The most the hams could squeeze into 12.5 kHz channel spacing was 9600
baud. CB channel spacing is less than that at 10 kHz so unless you want to
make transmissions that spread over multiple conventional channels and
replace the filters in your radios with wider bandwidth filters to receive
such transmissions, forget it.

tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

: Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
: the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...

oh oh....

where do i start...

"RT4T" <rt4t@ptls.org> wrote in message
news:gYNRd.939$_R6.392@newsfe5-win.ntli.net...
.. Just hook up a beam to a
> WiFi card and away you go, much easier than messing about with CBs that
use
> outdated technology and have little following now.

CB wasnt designed for all these extra bits..... CB was intended for plain
speech for local communications... you might also notice your bread wont
toast properly in the dish washer..... it wasnt designed for it.... If you
intended using packet etc you really should go M3 and use the proper
equipment.... simple !!

If you just want to chat to locals then CB's your baby... also simple..

As far as outdated technology you could have fascinating convo's on amateur
bands with ZZZPK about the morse code

)
Graham

ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com wrote:
> tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> : Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
> : the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...
>
> oh oh....
>
> where do i start...
>
>

I'll take that as a "don't know" then.

"tonester" <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
> the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...
>

Yes, but you would need to pick a baseband frequency that could cope with
the WiFi bandwidth (about 20MHz, if memory serves).

So, 27MHz isn't the place to do this!

> shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...?
>
> would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting
> we could transmit on "radio"

The bandwidth and data rate go hand in hand, reduce the data rate and down
goes the bandwidth.

> I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth...
>

Yep.

--
Brian Reay
www.g8osn.org.uk
www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
FP#898

ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com wrote:
> tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> : Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz???
> : the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"...
>
> oh oh....
>
> where do i start...
>
>
Yes thx for the answers....

It was only a (interesting) question I didn,t want to start an argument
or anything....it was just something of interest to talk about....

Packet was used (and still is on FM ...CB in fact up to 60,000 stations
in Germany Holland Belgium Denmark used packet Legal since 1992 ish in
varing countries....
In Germany about 65% of Secondry shools had a CB packet sation providing
a national network!!
It was used to teach basic computing data comms and such like in the
sciences...
if you check it out (27.235 and 245 ) more frequencies for Germany...
You will find out it was quite popular but has faded as the internet has
become cheaper... as most hobbies have!!!

all the best again and thx
TONY

"Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote:

:
: --
: Brian Reay
: www.g8osn.org.uk
: www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
: FP#898

isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ?

"ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com"
<zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie...
> "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote:
>
> :
> : --
> : Brian Reay
> : www.g8osn.org.uk
> : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
> : FP#898
>
> isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ?
>

My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o)

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

:
: "ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com"
: <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
: message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie...
: > "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote:
: >
: > :
: > : --
: > : Brian Reay
: > : www.g8osn.org.uk
: > : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
: > : FP#898
: >
: > isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ?
: >
:
: My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o)

i'm afraid not ...not this time.

you see Brian is/was the owner of an amstrad901 +licence.

i think he may be 'fishing for recruits'

"The Magnum" wrote...
>
> you might also notice your bread wont
> toast properly in the dish washer.....

But it will be easier for the elderly, with no teeth, to chew. Just remember to use
butter in place of detergent.

Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

"ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
<zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
message news:421d054d.8347596@news.iol.ie...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :
> : "ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com"
> : <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
> : message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie...
> : > "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote:
> : >
> : > :
> : > : --
> : > : Brian Reay
> : > : www.g8osn.org.uk
> : > : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk
> : > : FP#898
> : >
> : > isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ?
> : >
> :
> : My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o)
>
> i'm afraid not ...not this time.
>
> you see Brian is/was the owner of an amstrad901 +licence.
>
> i think he may be 'fishing for recruits'

You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on Ebay
recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts) a while
back you could buy them new for £19.99. Likewise the jokeable midland 77-099
basic CB (hasnt even got a meter) regularly go on Ebay for £40 + ....
I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other Amateurs
of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup
related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already.

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cvl1a4$tkm$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
>
> You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on
> Ebay
> recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts) a while
> back you could buy them new for £19.99. Likewise the jokeable midland
> 77-099
> basic CB (hasnt even got a meter) regularly go on Ebay for £40 + ....
> I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other
> Amateurs
> of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup
> related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already.
>

My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand (nearley
new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay last
year, wish I'd bought it now.

They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the time
that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties.

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

: I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other Amateurs
: of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup
: related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already.

sorry to disappoint you.

i can safely say that i have been blessed to have learnt most of my
radio knowledge off professional radio+radar fixers.
the next best slice came from ex-fixers who were/are instructors.
and the rest came from books.

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

: I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other Amateurs

b-licensees still come here because they feel a better bond with cb'ers
than they do with the superior class-a licensee.

Road_Hog® wrote:

> My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand (nearley
> new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay last
> year, wish I'd bought it now.
>
> They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the time
> that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties.
>
>

It was a shame about the useless "action man" mike on the early ones,
where you needed to have the muscles of an action man to get the thing
to key-up.

"Silk" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:386u97F5gl3u7U2@individual.net...
> Road_Hog® wrote:
>
> > My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand
(nearley
> > new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay
last
> > year, wish I'd bought it now.
> >
> > They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the
time
> > that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties.
> >
> >
>
> It was a shame about the useless "action man" mike on the early ones,
> where you needed to have the muscles of an action man to get the thing
> to key-up.

Yes thats true, i never really liked the improved mic any better. It looked
and felt cheap although others will say it was a good improvement. The one i
sold last year had the commando style mic with it and i think thats one of
the reasons why it went for what it did as they are rare now, especially in
good condition.
A lot mock the Amstrad 900/901 but in all honesty they were middle of the
road. There were a lot more lesser rigs than them. Like the York 869 (murphy
mobile) or the sapphire x2000/fidelity1000, plannet 2000/communicators and
so on.
As for the sixties type styling your absolutely right. Look at a lot of the
earlier 23 channel AM type cb's from the late 60's early 70's and theres a
close resemblance to rigs produced in the 80's.
Graham

"ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
<zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
message news:421e3aee.1470823@news.iol.ie...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> : I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other
Amateurs
> : of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup
> : related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already.
>
> sorry to disappoint you.
>
> i can safely say that i have been blessed to have learnt most of my
> radio knowledge off professional radio+radar fixers.
> the next best slice came from ex-fixers who were/are instructors.
> and the rest came from books.
>
>
Are you purposely mis reading posts or are you so UP yourself you cant work
out the statement. When i said its the best newsgroup i meant for friendly
chat not trying to be smart arse's. Thats why you are in here for the
"community" welcomeness not your snobby holier than thou attitude.
Loosen up and enjoy..

"ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
<zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
message news:421e3b66.1590941@news.iol.ie...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> : I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other
Amateurs
>
> b-licensees still come here because they feel a better bond with cb'ers
> than they do with the superior class-a licensee.
>
SO why are you here??? are you just here to FLAME or do you also prefer to
be in here? or have you been banished from the amateur rooms? If you havnt
then why "lower" yourself to this newsgroup?? I would be interested to know,
likewise im sure would many readers in here.
Graham

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

:
: "ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
: <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
: message news:421e3b66.1590941@news.iol.ie...
: > "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
: >
: > : I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other
: Amateurs
: >
: > b-licensees still come here because they feel a better bond with cb'ers
: > than they do with the superior class-a licensee.
: >
: SO why are you here??? are you just here to FLAME or do you also prefer to
simple.
the b-licesees who continue to lower their standards come here too.

and the amateur bands are worse off for it.

"ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
<zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
message news:4220c245.70832300@news.iol.ie...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> :
> : "ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar"
> : <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in
> : message news:421e3b66.1590941@news.iol.ie...
> : > "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> : >
> : > : I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other
> : Amateurs
> : >
> : > b-licensees still come here because they feel a better bond with
cb'ers
> : > than they do with the superior class-a licensee.
> : >
> : SO why are you here??? are you just here to FLAME or do you also prefer
to
> simple.
> the b-licesees who continue to lower their standards come here too.
>
> and the amateur bands are worse off for it.
>

This guy is completely potty.......look up... ITS A CB NEWSGROUP..get it
CB... not AMATEUR... CB... The reason the B-licencees like to come in here
is probably because they are sick of some of the pompous Amateurs and tired
of the S__T people like you dribble.... The Amateur bands are worse off
because of people like you dissing anyone with a radio interest and not
accepting them into the fold just because they arent interested in morse....
thats basically it isnt it. You ridiculing people because of morse....Anyhow
dribble on.....Mr Superior.... (laughs) Im ignoring you from now because
your OBVIOUSLY MENTAL.

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
>
> This guy is completely potty.......look up... ITS A CB NEWSGROUP..get it
> CB... not AMATEUR... CB... The reason the B-licencees like to come in here
> is probably because they are sick of some of the pompous Amateurs and tired
> of the S__T people like you dribble.... The Amateur bands are worse off
> because of people like you dissing anyone with a radio interest and not
> accepting them into the fold just because they arent interested in morse....
> thats basically it isnt it.

No...

As a child, he was dominated by his mother. He couldn't take a p!ss without having to
ask her permission first. Forget kicking a ball about with his friends, he wasn't allowed
to mix with those "nasty kids" on the estate.
Girls, they were just dirty sluts, "you're better off without them, Son".

He is on a mission to find someone he can consider as being below him, someone
he can take all his frustration out on, in the hope that he will feel better about himself.
I think he should accept that he is in the wrong group and try one of the following:
alt.idiots
alt.stupid.idiots
alt.local.village.idiot
alt.total-loser

Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
>
> You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on Ebay
> recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts)

That don't mean much... people have been known to sell half eaten bananas
and half eaten slices of toast on E-Bay.
Difference is, I believe they fetched a higher price than that Amstrad.

You could probably sell a turd on E-Bay, I wouldn't be surprised if someone
already has.

Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote:

: No...

said someone who posts on a CB newsgroup with the HANDLE THEMAGNUM !!

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:4225625a.0@entanet...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
> >
> > This guy is completely potty.......look up... ITS A CB NEWSGROUP..get it
> > CB... not AMATEUR... CB... The reason the B-licencees like to come in
here
> > is probably because they are sick of some of the pompous Amateurs and
tired
> > of the S__T people like you dribble.... The Amateur bands are worse off
> > because of people like you dissing anyone with a radio interest and not
> > accepting them into the fold just because they arent interested in
morse....
> > thats basically it isnt it.
>
> No...
>
> As a child, he was dominated by his mother. He couldn't take a p!ss
without having to
> ask her permission first. Forget kicking a ball about with his friends,
he wasn't allowed
> to mix with those "nasty kids" on the estate.
> Girls, they were just dirty sluts, "you're better off without them, Son".
>
> He is on a mission to find someone he can consider as being below him,
someone
> he can take all his frustration out on, in the hope that he will feel
better about himself.
> I think he should accept that he is in the wrong group and try one of the
following:
> alt.idiots
> alt.stupid.idiots
> alt.local.village.idiot
> alt.total-loser
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/
>
>

Rock on Pete..... ;o)
Graham

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:4225625e.0@entanet...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
> >
> > You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on
Ebay
> > recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts)
>
> That don't mean much... people have been known to sell half eaten bananas
> and half eaten slices of toast on E-Bay.
> Difference is, I believe they fetched a higher price than that Amstrad.
>
> You could probably sell a turd on E-Bay, I wouldn't be surprised if
someone
> already has.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/
>
>
Lol, quite true .. but a lot of them are charity related.... not sure about
the turd though, mind you i suppose its a fettish thing.... I was told of
someome who has a website dedicated to the supply of such stuff in any
consistancy or colour... we dont need that in here though, we have ZZZPK

)

"ZZZPK powilliams600" wrote...
> "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote:
>
> : No...
>
> said someone who posts on a CB newsgroup with the
> HANDLE THEMAGNUM !!

I posted the message you quoted above, but I am NOT "The Magnum"
(Graham). If you look at your quoted text, you will see that my name is
Peter.
With just the slightest effort, you could also see that we used different
ISPs and live in different parts of the UK.

Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

"The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
>
> I was told of someome who has a website dedicated
> to the supply of such stuff in any consistancy or colour...

Or in any shape...
http://www.turdtwister.com/

Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:42426d6c.0@entanet...
> "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
> >
> > I was told of someome who has a website dedicated
> > to the supply of such stuff in any consistancy or colour...
>
>
> Or in any shape...
> http://www.turdtwister.com/
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
> http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/
>
>
I wont look Pete, ill take your word on it ....LOL
Have a good Easter....

www.open-channel.co.uk

	#1
tonester	WiFi on CB...? Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz??? the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"... shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...? would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting we could transmit on "radio" I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth... simply replies only thx.... :>0 Tony

	#2
Paul Cummins	Re: WiFi on CB...? In article <cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk (tonester) wrote: > would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting > we could transmit on "radio" Not egally - the transmission mode is wrong. -- Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

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RT4T	Re: WiFi on CB...? Hello, You can transmit any mode on any frequency you like but need to be licenced to do so, have access to equipment that is capable, or be able to design your own and build it. Packet has all been done before on CB going back to 1988 when I had a go with a Ham International Multimode 2 and a PK-88. Due to the limitation of the radios bandwidth it would only operate at 300baud on SSB and 1200baud on FM. A few friends modified a couple of standard UK40 CBs and got them to work at speeds of 9600baud but it was unreliable. Just hook up a beam to a WiFi card and away you go, much easier than messing about with CBs that use outdated technology and have little following now. "tonester" <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk... > Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz??? > the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"... > > shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...? > > would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting we > could transmit on "radio" > > I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth... > > simply replies only thx.... :>0 > > Tony

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Snowbat	Re: WiFi on CB...? On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 17:51:26 +0000, tonester wrote: > Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 > ghz??? the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster > Packet"... Not practical on 27 MHz. A Wi-Fi (802.11b) transmission has a bandwidth of about 22 MHz so your theoretical Wi-Fi CB would be transmitting everywhere between 16 MHz and 38 MHz simultaneously (and that's only for one channel). > shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...? Not exactly the same - you're allowed slightly more bandwidth on 2 meters due to the wider channel spacing. > would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting > we could transmit on "radio" The most the hams could squeeze into 12.5 kHz channel spacing was 9600 baud. CB channel spacing is less than that at 10 kHz so unless you want to make transmissions that spread over multiple conventional channels and replace the filters in your radios with wider bandwidth filters to receive such transmissions, forget it.

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ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com	Re: WiFi on CB...? tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: : Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz??? : the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"... oh oh.... where do i start...

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The Magnum	Re: WiFi on CB...? "RT4T" <rt4t@ptls.org> wrote in message news:gYNRd.939$_R6.392@newsfe5-win.ntli.net... .. Just hook up a beam to a > WiFi card and away you go, much easier than messing about with CBs that use > outdated technology and have little following now. CB wasnt designed for all these extra bits..... CB was intended for plain speech for local communications... you might also notice your bread wont toast properly in the dish washer..... it wasnt designed for it.... If you intended using packet etc you really should go M3 and use the proper equipment.... simple !! If you just want to chat to locals then CB's your baby... also simple.. As far as outdated technology you could have fascinating convo's on amateur bands with ZZZPK about the morse code ) Graham

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Silk	Re: WiFi on CB...? ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com wrote: > tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > > : Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz??? > : the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"... > > oh oh.... > > where do i start... > > I'll take that as a "don't know" then.

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Brian Reay	Re: WiFi on CB...? "tonester" <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cv7ub0$rjm$1@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk... > Could you TX the Wi-Fi Protocol on another freqency other than 2.4 ghz??? > the IEEE 801.1 (I think) protocol just seemd to be "faster Packet"... > Yes, but you would need to pick a baseband frequency that could cope with the WiFi bandwidth (about 20MHz, if memory serves). So, 27MHz isn't the place to do this! > shurley like a voice on 2 mtrs or 10 mtrs its the same...? > > would it be possible to convert this or even half the speed to someting > we could transmit on "radio" The bandwidth and data rate go hand in hand, reduce the data rate and down goes the bandwidth. > I,m thinking you probably need a big bandwidth... > Yep. -- Brian Reay www.g8osn.org.uk www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk FP#898

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ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com	Re: WiFi on CB...? "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote: : : -- : Brian Reay : www.g8osn.org.uk : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk : FP#898 isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ?

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The Magnum	Re: WiFi on CB...? "ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie... > "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote: > > : > : -- > : Brian Reay > : www.g8osn.org.uk > : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk > : FP#898 > > isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ? > My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o)

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ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar	Re: WiFi on CB...? "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: : : "ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com" : <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in : message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie... : > "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote: : > : > : : > : -- : > : Brian Reay : > : www.g8osn.org.uk : > : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk : > : FP#898 : > : > isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ? : > : : My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o) i'm afraid not ...not this time. you see Brian is/was the owner of an amstrad901 +licence. i think he may be 'fishing for recruits'

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Peter	Re: WiFi on CB...? "The Magnum" wrote... > > you might also notice your bread wont > toast properly in the dish washer..... But it will be easier for the elderly, with no teeth, to chew. Just remember to use butter in place of detergent. Regards, Peter http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

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The Magnum	Re: WiFi on CB...? "ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in message news:421d054d.8347596@news.iol.ie... > "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > > : > : "ZZZPK ptl_amangbo@kaixo.com" > : <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote in > : message news:421b8ad7.2913079@news.iol.ie... > : > "Brian Reay" <brian.reay@(spamstopper)bigfoot.com> wrote: > : > > : > : > : > : -- > : > : Brian Reay > : > : www.g8osn.org.uk > : > : www.amateurradiotraining.org.uk > : > : FP#898 > : > > : > isnt it amazing how many b-licensees you can find on a cb newsgroup ? > : > > : > : My Dear ZZZPK, they , like you, know where the actions at ;o) > > i'm afraid not ...not this time. > > you see Brian is/was the owner of an amstrad901 +licence. > > i think he may be 'fishing for recruits' You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on Ebay recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts) a while back you could buy them new for £19.99. Likewise the jokeable midland 77-099 basic CB (hasnt even got a meter) regularly go on Ebay for £40 + .... I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other Amateurs of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already.

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Road_Hog®	Re: WiFi on CB...? "The Magnum" <magnum@NOSPAMmag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cvl1a4$tkm$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... > > You would be amazed how popular the Amstrad 901 still is. I sold one on > Ebay > recently, nothing special, in a tatty box for £52 (or threabouts) a while > back you could buy them new for £19.99. Likewise the jokeable midland > 77-099 > basic CB (hasnt even got a meter) regularly go on Ebay for £40 + .... > I still say though that you, like a lot of the B-licences and other > Amateurs > of varying licences come in here because you know its the best newsgroup > related to radio.... go on... admit it.... you know we know it already. > My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand (nearley new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay last year, wish I'd bought it now. They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the time that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties.

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Silk	Re: WiFi on CB...? Road_Hog® wrote: > My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand (nearley > new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay last > year, wish I'd bought it now. > > They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the time > that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties. > > It was a shame about the useless "action man" mike on the early ones, where you needed to have the muscles of an action man to get the thing to key-up.

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The Magnum	Re: WiFi on CB...? "Silk" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:386u97F5gl3u7U2@individual.net... > Road_Hog® wrote: > > > My first legal rig, absolutely wonderful, cost me £30 secondhand (nearley > > new) almost 25 years ago. There was a brand new one in a box on Ebay last > > year, wish I'd bought it now. > > > > They had style and looked modern compared to most of the rigs at the time > > that looked like they had been styled in the Sixties. > > > > > > It was a shame about the useless "action man" mike on the early ones, > where you needed to have the muscles of an action man to get the thing > to key-up. Yes thats true, i never really liked the improved mic any better. It looked and felt cheap although others will say it was a good improvement. The one i sold last year had the commando style mic with it and i think thats one of the reasons why it went for what it did as they are rare now, especially in good condition. A lot mock the Amstrad 900/901 but in all honesty they were middle of the road. There were a lot more lesser rigs than them. Like the York 869 (murphy mobile) or the sapphire x2000/fidelity1000, plannet 2000/communicators and so on. As for the sixties type styling your absolutely right. Look at a lot of the earlier 23 channel AM type cb's from the late 60's early 70's and theres a close resemblance to rigs produced in the 80's. Graham

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ZZZPK omenwilliams@web-mail.com.ar pacificlottery2004@yahoo.com powilliams600	Re: WiFi on CB...? "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote: : No... said someone who posts on a CB newsgroup with the HANDLE THEMAGNUM !!

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Peter	Re: WiFi on CB...? "ZZZPK powilliams600" wrote... > "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote: > > : No... > > said someone who posts on a CB newsgroup with the > HANDLE THEMAGNUM !! I posted the message you quoted above, but I am NOT "The Magnum" (Graham). If you look at your quoted text, you will see that my name is Peter. With just the slightest effort, you could also see that we used different ISPs and live in different parts of the UK. Regards, Peter http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/