Barry Mung

Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the future.
My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should expect 40
channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero rather than a five
like the rest of the world.Where these will be is a mystery untill it is
decided.
(Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)

huLLy

Barry Mung wrote:
> Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
> Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the
> future. My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should
> expect 40 channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero
> rather than a five like the rest of the world.Where these will be is
> a mystery untill it is decided.
> (Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)

I seriously doubt this...
--
huLLy
VOIP SIP Phone Number 4823176 on Global Village
Or +44 8703 408916 to my VOIP line
email g4sdw@aol.com (Loon reports welcome)
http://www.giganews.com/customer/gn119503

tonester

Barry Mung wrote:
> Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
> Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the future.
> My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should expect 40
> channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero rather than a five
> like the rest of the world.Where these will be is a mystery untill it is
> decided.
> (Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)
>
>
April the 1st is not for a while yet..........

besides being illegal has never stopped most pirates and hams from using
26-27 megs SSB..!!!!

Paul Cummins

In article <cule7v$vb5$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>,
tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk (tonester) wrote:

> besides being illegal has never stopped most pirates and hams from
> using 26-27 megs SSB..!!!!

And I'll be monitoring 27.535 tomorrow with equipment I'm not allowed to
have...

--
Paul Cummins - Always a NetHead
Wasting Bandwidth since 1981

PK

Hello,

I have heard all this since the early 80's. You will NOT be allowed to use
the MODE of SSB. SSB is NOT a channel, it is a mode, so it shows how
knowledgable you and your friend are!
Name your source, otherwise no one will believe a word you say. If you can
really name someone then they can be corrected as the wrong information is
being given to people. It certainly isn't anything OFCOM are considering.

"Barry Mung" <wildlife_video@NOSPAMbreathe.com> wrote in message
news:420e34d9$1_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
> Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the future.
> My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should expect 40
> channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero rather than a
> five
> like the rest of the world.Where these will be is a mystery untill it is
> decided.
> (Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)
>

Liam

The powers that be where looking into the feasibility of having SSB with CB.

Do some countries allow it?

"Barry Mung" <wildlife_video@NOSPAMbreathe.com> wrote in message
news:420e34d9$1_1@mk-nntp-1.news.uk.worldonline.com...
> Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
> Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the future.
> My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should expect 40
> channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero rather than a
five
> like the rest of the world.Where these will be is a mystery untill it is
> decided.
> (Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)
>
>

ZZZPK

"Barry Mung" <wildlife_video@NOSPAMbreathe.com> wrote:

: Yes,its official,we are keeping the UK 40 channels.
: Also expect some extra SSB channels to be added,somewhen in the future.
: My source from ofcom has told me these facts,and that we should expect 40
: channels of SSB,20 of USB and 20 of LSB,ending in a zero rather than a five
: like the rest of the world.Where these will be is a mystery untill it is
: decided.
: (Eg 27.550 rather than 27.555)


hmmmmmmmmmm.... when i read this the callsign m3osn came into my head.

i wonder why

ZZZPK

agree2pay4uce@spam.vlaad.co.uk (Paul Cummins) wrote:

: And I'll be monitoring 27.535 tomorrow with equipment I'm not allowed to
: have...

excellent posting Paul.

i'm sure ofcom will be along in a few hours to hae alook for themselves !!

MW0GUV

"ZZZPK" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote
in message news:420f3851.137928619@news.iol.ie...

>
> hmmmmmmmmmm.... when i read this the callsign m3osn came into my head.
>
> i wonder why

It's because you are a small minded ar**hole who thinks it makes him one of
the superior gang to criticise M3's, instead of smirking at the post why not
explain to the poster what you think is inaccurate.

Andy MW0GUV

ZZZPK

"MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:

: "ZZZPK" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote
: in message news:420f3851.137928619@news.iol.ie...
:
: >
: > hmmmmmmmmmm.... when i read this the callsign m3osn came into my head.
: >
: > i wonder why
:
: It's because you are a xxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxxx who thinks it makes him one of
once again, your attitude is somewhat blunt.
i consider this to be an indication of your lack of experience...which of
course will come when with time (lots of it)

: the superior gang to criticise M3's,
i fear that again, your knowledge is lacking.
i believe one of the first to criticise the m3 system on the internet
was m3osn himself.

: instead of smirking at the post why not
: explain to the poster what you think is inaccurate.
why i think a posting about the future of cb is inaccurate ?

who cares if it is ?
i certainly dont.
the fact remains that many cb'ers took m3 licences out and proceeded to
pollute the amateur bands with behaviour as if they were still on 27mhz.
and the fact remains tat they were allowed to do it by a so-called society
that is supposed to be regarded with standards so high that many other
societies around the world are supposed to look at them as a standard to
achieve !!!!


: Andy MW0GUV
would you be a 'product of the new "progressive" licencing scheme' ?

MW0GUV

"ZZZPK" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote
in message news:420f434a.140737628@news.iol.ie...
> "MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> : "ZZZPK" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net>
wrote
> : in message news:420f3851.137928619@news.iol.ie...
> :
> : >
> : > hmmmmmmmmmm.... when i read this the callsign m3osn came into my head.
> : >
> : > i wonder why
> :
> : It's because you are a xxxxx xxxxxx xxxxxxxx who thinks it makes him one
of
> once again, your attitude is somewhat blunt.
> i consider this to be an indication of your lack of experience...which of
> course will come when with time (lots of it)
>
> : the superior gang to criticise M3's,
> i fear that again, your knowledge is lacking.
> i believe one of the first to criticise the m3 system on the internet
> was m3osn himself.
>
> : instead of smirking at the post why not
> : explain to the poster what you think is inaccurate.
> why i think a posting about the future of cb is inaccurate ?
>
> who cares if it is ?
> i certainly dont.
> the fact remains that many cb'ers took m3 licences out and proceeded to
> pollute the amateur bands with behaviour as if they were still on 27mhz.
> and the fact remains tat they were allowed to do it by a so-called society
> that is supposed to be regarded with standards so high that many other
> societies around the world are supposed to look at them as a standard to
> achieve !!!!
>
>
> : Andy MW0GUV
> would you be a 'product of the new "progressive" licencing scheme' ?
>

I would never condone any operator lowering the standards of the hobby and I
am active in helping new operators, as for your final question relating to
the status of my license, I think that sums you up. I am a full license
holder having passed the required exam to hold that license. As for my
experience, I don't have the insecurities you seem to have and I therefore
don't need to state how many years I have been licensed and I certainly
don't need or want advice from you on how to conduct myself. If I am blunt
then at least you know where you stand with me.

When I suggest that you might offer the poster an explanation as to why you
think his/her post is inaccurate you state

> who cares if it is ?
> i certainly dont.

Then the question is, why are you here? it would seem to me that you are
just here to pour scorn at every opportunity in an attempt to make yourself
feel superior.

and as for the new "progressive" licensing scheme' I would say that I fully
support it because it will mean that crusty old cardigan wearing idiots like
you will become the minority, and I for one will be actively encouraging new
operators to take up the hobby and progress with their studies to better
themselves technically.

Finally let me ask you this, if you were one of those fortunate enough to
perhaps have an electrical/electronics background like I was and perhaps the
exam wasn't as daunting as it is for those who don't have that background
what have you done to help others? For the hobby to retain it's standards
then older hams will have to pass on knowledge and advice to the newer hams
rather than just turning up on a NG and sniping.

We were all in a position at one time where we were the student (regardless
if you are a G?) so what makes you any better than the students coming
through now.

I know what CB was and still is in some places, and god forbid the Amateur
bands should drop to those levels but you are not helping the cause by
talking down your nose to people.

Andy MW0GUV

BlackKnight

"PK" <kig@mtns.net> wrote in message
news:cIBPd.127$Yb3.85@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
> Hello,
>
> I have heard all this since the early 80's. You will NOT be allowed to
> use the MODE of SSB. SSB is NOT a channel, it is a mode, so it shows how
> knowledgable you and your friend are!

I guess you don't understand as much as you think you do. He's trying to say
they're planning channels/frequencies specifically for SSB use. As opposed
to people wiping out the UK40 with their SSB when the rest of us are trying
to use FM!

Philip de Cadenet

Liam,

>The powers that be where looking into the feasibility of having SSB with CB.
>
>Do some countries allow it?

I thought the whole idea of CEPT was to bring in standard rules across
the EU.

In answer to your question, and within the EU, yes, Spain has SSB.

They've had it prior to CB being introduced in the UK!
--
Philip de Cadenet G4ZOW
Transmitters 'R' Us
http://www.transmittersrus.com

funny thing, seems a lot of these "radio hams" can't resist a look at the CB
Ng's. Why is that, dreaming of days gone by. when you also had a bit of
"fun" that's what you do with toys, play and have fun. radio unless used by
services or PMR is hobby = toys = playing!
Whatever fancy title some one gives them selves don't make it any more than
toys and games/hobby/pastime.
Join the fun or go home.

FeGaN

>Liam wrote -

>The powers that be where looking into the feasibility of having SSB with
CB.

>Do some countries allow it?
-----------------
--------------

Yes Ireland allows its CB radio users SSB.

Fibber

ZZZPK

"BlackKnight" <terry_37@NO_SPAMemail.com> wrote:

:
: "PK" <kig@mtns.net> wrote in message
: news:cIBPd.127$Yb3.85@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
: > Hello,
: >
: > I have heard all this since the early 80's. You will NOT be allowed to
: > use the MODE of SSB. SSB is NOT a channel, it is a mode, so it shows how
: > knowledgable you and your friend are!
:
: I guess you don't understand as much as you think you do. He's trying to say
: they're planning channels/frequencies specifically for SSB use. As opposed
: to people wiping out the UK40 with their SSB when the rest of us are trying
: to use FM!

if you think....ofcom are interested in bandplanning cb freqs..i think
not.

cb will get a block and the permitted emmissions will be published.
what permitted mode is used on what channel is not going to worry them

ZZZPK

Philip de Cadenet <Philstheboss@thebbc.fslife.co.uk> wrote:

: I thought the whole idea of CEPT was to bring in standard rules across
: the EU.
yes!
thats why GB now FORCES ALL AMATEUR ADIO BEGINNERS TO SIT A MORSE CODE
(PASS/FAIL) COMPULOSRY ASSESSMENT (which the dog of m1byt<?> can do)


: In answer to your question, and within the EU, yes, Spain has SSB.
:
: They've had it prior to CB being introduced in the UK!
am i right in saying that the UK not only went FM only but stuck the
channels in between the ''usual'' channels ????

one way to keep the interference down and the qso count down too !!

ZZZPK

"FeGaN" <no.spam@this.address.com> wrote:

: Yes Ireland allows its CB radio users SSB.

allows or tolerates ?

ZZZPK

"MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:

: I would never condone any operator lowering the standards of the hobby and I
good...




: I know what CB was and still is in some places, and god forbid the Amateur
: bands should drop to those levels
good.

: but you are not helping the cause by
: talking down your nose to people.
helping?
who said anyhting about helping.
cb is for cb'ers.
the amateur bands are for amatuers.
its time that certain people reaslie that.

ZZZPK

<grasshouse@hotmail.com> wrote:

: funny thing, seems a lot of these "radio hams" can't resist a look at the CB

yes..

i know of one who admits to having an amstrad901 WITH LICENCE !

FeGaN

>FeGaN wrote -

>Yes Ireland allows its CB radio users SSB.
----------------------
>>ZZZPK wrote -

>>allows or tolerates ?
----------------------
Allows (as in legal to operate on SSB or DSB as ComReg refer to it)... check
the ComReg website for details.

73's
Fibber

BlackKnight

"ZZZPK" <zzzpk_pkearn_class_a@multi_band_cb_is_here.eircom .es.it.net> wrote
in message news:42104f44.209350805@news.iol.ie...
> "MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:
>
> : I would never condone any operator lowering the standards of the hobby
> and I
> good...
>
>
>
>
> : I know what CB was and still is in some places, and god forbid the
> Amateur
> : bands should drop to those levels
> good.
>
> : but you are not helping the cause by
> : talking down your nose to people.
> helping?
> who said anyhting about helping.
> cb is for cb'ers.
> the amateur bands are for amatuers.
> its time that certain people reaslie that.
>

CB may be for CB'ers but just remember how many of your amateurs were CB'ers
previously !!!

MW0GUV

"BlackKnight" <terry_37@NO_SPAMemail.com> wrote in message
news:cuq71q$tvd$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk...

> CB may be for CB'ers but just remember how many of your amateurs were
CB'ers
> previously !!!
>

Don't waste your time mate, people like him won't give you a sensible
response, they seem to think they are superior in some way. Radio is Radio
and many many Amateur's as you rightly say came through the ranks of CB
(whether legal or otherwise).

73

Andy MW0GUV

tonester

Philip de Cadenet wrote:

> Liam,
>
>> The powers that be where looking into the feasibility of having SSB
>> with CB.
>>
>> Do some countries allow it?
>
>
> I thought the whole idea of CEPT was to bring in standard rules across
> the EU.
>
> In answer to your question, and within the EU, yes, Spain has SSB.
>
> They've had it prior to CB being introduced in the UK!
Thinking the UK will ever be part of Europe is the problem....

those people have rights.....

tonester

FeGaN wrote:

>>Liam wrote -
>
>
>>The powers that be where looking into the feasibility of having SSB with
>
> CB.
>
>
>>Do some countries allow it?
>
> -----------------
> --------------
>
> Yes Ireland allows its CB radio users SSB.
>
> Fibber
>
>
and France and Belgium and Holland and Portugal......

er I tink there,s a few in Italy.... well there was in the early 80,s

Mmmmmm Russia may have a few radios too...

Ned

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:54:15 -0000, "BlackKnight"
<terry_37@NO_SPAMemail.com> wrote:


>
>CB may be for CB'ers but just remember how many of your amateurs were CB'ers
>previously !!!
>

None! They are still CBrs.

Ned

On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 13:02:11 -0000, "MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:


>
>Don't waste your time mate, people like him won't give you a sensible
>response, they seem to think they are superior in some way. Radio is Radio
>and many many Amateur's as you rightly say came through the ranks of CB
>(whether legal or otherwise).
>
>73
>
>Andy MW0GUV
>

Yes it shows too.

Peter

"Philip de Cadenet" <Philstheboss@thebbc.fslife.co.uk> wrote...
>
> I thought the whole idea of CEPT was to bring in standard
> rules across the EU.

That will be the day :~)
Some people still seem to think that they can make everybody
the same. It will never happen, there are too many different ways
of life and ways of thinking across Europe.


Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

ZZZPK

tonester <tonester1@cbuk.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

: > They've had it prior to CB being introduced in the UK!
: Thinking the UK will ever be part of Europe is the problem....
:
: those people have rights.....

suggest you look up the

''treaty of rome''

''maastricht treaty''

and another i cant remember that went through
either a few years before or a few years after
the ''maastricht treaty''

in short: the UK *_IS_* in the EU and not only that
but EU LEGILSATION takes priority over UK legislation.

PART OF EUROPE ?

You have been since 1973(plus a few months)

DONT BE FOOLED BY THESE POLITICIANS WHO SAY THEY WILL SHOW EUROPE WHO IS
BOSS. ASK THEM HOW THEY VOTED IN 1971 (IF THEYRE WERE OLD ENOUGH)

ASK THEM WHAT THE TREATY OF ROME SAYS ABOUT PRIORITY OF LEGISLATION.

ZZZPK

"FeGaN" <no.spam@this.address.com> wrote:

: >>allows or tolerates ?
: ----------------------
: Allows (as in legal to operate on SSB or DSB as ComReg refer to it)... check
: the ComReg website for details.


interesting ?

thought the answer was tolerates...

ZZZPK

"BlackKnight" <terry_37@NO_SPAMemail.com> wrote:

: CB may be for CB'ers but just remember how many of your amateurs were CB'ers
: previously !!!


exactly WERE

not STILL ARE and continually import the ways of 27mhz onto 7mhz.

ZZZPK

"MW0GUV" <me@nospam.net> wrote:

: Don't waste your time mate, people like him won't give you a sensible
: response, they seem to think they are superior in some way. Radio is Radio
: and many many Amateur's as you rightly say came through the ranks of CB
: (whether legal or otherwise).

ZZZPK

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote:

: http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

nice website.

original explanations too !!

so nice to see original work nowadays.

Peter

"ZZZPK" wrote...
>
> cb is for cb'ers.
> the amateur bands are for amatuers.
> its time that certain people reaslie that.

Amateur groups are for Amateurs, CB newsgroups are for CBers and spell checkers are for anyone.
It's time certain Amateurs reaslied that.


Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

Peter

"ZZZPK" wrote...
>
> am i right in saying that the UK not only went FM only but
> stuck the channels in between the ''usual'' channels ????

It depends upon what you call usual, when the old band was never used
for CB in any other country.

However, they did select some strange frequencies:
27.60125 to 27.99125 MHz.
As for the European channels, we have exactly the same 40 channels as
the EU standard, the same as America use.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/...ech/ukfreq.php


Regards,

Peter
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

ZZZPK

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote:

: "ZZZPK" wrote...
: >
: > am i right in saying that the UK not only went FM only but
: > stuck the channels in between the ''usual'' channels ????
:
: It depends upon what you call usual, when the old band was never used
: for CB in any other country.
the band the cb'ers use here seems to be 26.96x to 27.40x
with several found down under that having intelligent conversations while
their buddies between 27.000 and 274000 play music and listen to church
mass being broadcast around the place.

ZZZPK

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote:

: It's time certain Amateurs reaslied that.
yes i agree 100%

its time that certain ''amateurs with amstrad901's" had spellcheckers.


indeed one that springs to mind spelled story as storey
and even worse than that spelled NONSENSE with a naughty word beginning
with B and ending in S with a double-L in the middle !!!