top up tv box

whats it worth

"Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> whats it worth
>

pick them up on the local carboots for around £5 to £10.
not a lot but there are so many about

Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable..
i've had mine eight years now !!
and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting on
the codes to be bought out..

"Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
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> whats it worth
>

"hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable..
> i've had mine eight years now !!
> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting on
> the codes to be bought out..
>
>
>
Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.

"HammerChewer"
<pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in
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> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable..
>> i've had mine eight years now !!
>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting
>> on the codes to be bought out..
>>
>>
>>
> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.
>

not if you know where to look/

you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free.

and where do i look,
years ago it was on ondigital.com before it got re directed to the original
on digital site, so now with top up TV there must be a way of using an MM2
or similar card ??

" bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message
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> "HammerChewer"
> <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in
> message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
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>> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more
>>> reliable..
>>> i've had mine eight years now !!
>>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting
>>> on the codes to be bought out..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.
>>
>
> not if you know where to look/
>
> you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free.
>
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>

" bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message
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> "HammerChewer"
> <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in
> message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
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>> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more
>>> reliable..
>>> i've had mine eight years now !!
>>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting
>>> on the codes to be bought out..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.
>>
>
> not if you know where to look/
>
> you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free.
>
>
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I certainly know where to look and the only thing available is a Keygen for
codes for the likes of Setanta but no cards.

"hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> and where do i look,

snipped

first get known by people at http://deansplace.org/
become a member, time will tell :-)

or worldofdigital
its all there

mike

" bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message
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> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:%is2h.22307$j4.14407@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>> and where do i look,
>
>
> snipped
>
> first get known by people at http://deansplace.org/
> become a member, time will tell :-)
>
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>

"HammerChewer"
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> " bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message
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>> "HammerChewer"
>> <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in
>> message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
>>>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>>>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more
>>>> reliable..
>>>> i've had mine eight years now !!
>>>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting
>>>> on the codes to be bought out..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.
>>>
>>
>> not if you know where to look/
>>
>> you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I certainly know where to look and the only thing available is a Keygen
> for codes for the likes of Setanta but no cards.
>

I have a multi satellite system. I have 5000 channels of stuff. About 200
are in English or carry English films. I always interested in new channels.
What websites do you recommend. I know a few good ones but it always pays
to pool information

Andy

And neither of them will tell you how to program a card to get Top up TV.

"HammerChewer"
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> And neither of them will tell you how to program a card to get Top up TV.
>

and you know because ??

" bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message
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> "HammerChewer"
> <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in
> message news:LEu2h.36270$t6.30423@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
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>> And neither of them will tell you how to program a card to get Top up TV.
>>
>
> and you know because ??
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As a member of Modshack.

All you will find is a keygen for channels like Setanta and TVX as these are
not encrypted but are PPV and require a PIN to unlock them , unlike TopupTV
who's encryption (SECA2) has NOT been cracked.. Though SECA2 has been
cracked in Italy/Spain, TopupTV use a different version and so far it has
not been done and as the content of Topup is crap it's unlikely will ever be
done..

"Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote...
>
> whats it worth

Are you sure you posted this to the right group?

Surely it depends upon the model, but Set Top boxes are now
quite cheap - from about £25 new in the shops.

I am not sure how much TTV costs, if they get that with the box,
but maybe Freeview will have the info or a link...
http://www.freeview.co.uk/

Regards,
Peter.

"hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>
> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..

They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them for about £23.

Regards,
Peter.

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote...
> >
> > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>
> They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them
for about £23.
>
>
> Regards,
> Peter.

And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot
less.......

73'
Graham
--
-- ...-- -.-- ... ..-

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)

"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
> "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote...
> > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote...
> > >
> > > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
> >
> > They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them
> for about £23.
>
> And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot
> less.......

I would expect the prices to gradually drop until switchover.
After switchover, anyone without one will not be getting one - so the bottom will drop out the
market. Production of boxes is likely to stop, with shops clearing their old stocks at really
low prices.
Production will then focus on digital TVs, rather than boxes to add digital.

A few years back, the bottom fell out the TV market. Whole chains of stores disappeared. Even
Dixons / Currys retail group closed many stores a while back.
TVs had remained the same for some years, colour and Teletext were old technology, so there was
no reason for people to be buying new sets. Digital has given the market a boost but, after
switchover, that will gradually die off as everyone ends up with complete digital TVs.

CB has remained mainly the same for many years, just a few small changes, but I wonder if CADS
will give CB a boost. The number of churches may be small, but what of the members buying them
to listen? Also, this may give the band some publicity, with church members realising that
they can also use them to talk to each other - even if they don't need them to listen to the
services.

Regards,

Peter.

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
>> "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote...
>> > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>> > >
>> > > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>> >
>> > They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them
>> for about £23.
>>
>> And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot
>> less.......
>
> I would expect the prices to gradually drop until switchover.
> After switchover, anyone without one will not be getting one - so the
> bottom will drop out the
> market. Production of boxes is likely to stop, with shops clearing their
> old stocks at really
> low prices.
> Production will then focus on digital TVs, rather than boxes to add
> digital.
>
> A few years back, the bottom fell out the TV market. Whole chains of
> stores disappeared. Even
> Dixons / Currys retail group closed many stores a while back.
> TVs had remained the same for some years, colour and Teletext were old
> technology, so there was
> no reason for people to be buying new sets. Digital has given the market
> a boost but, after
> switchover, that will gradually die off as everyone ends up with complete
> digital TVs.
>
> CB has remained mainly the same for many years, just a few small changes,
> but I wonder if CADS
> will give CB a boost. The number of churches may be small, but what of
> the members buying them
> to listen? Also, this may give the band some publicity, with church
> members realising that
> they can also use them to talk to each other - even if they don't need
> them to listen to the
> services.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.
>
>

CADS wont help. All that will happen is that certain religious groups will
blast out high power and make everything nearby unusable. Most wont be in
English.

Andy

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
news:4559598e.0@entanet...
> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote...
>> "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote...
>> > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>> > >
>> > > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30..
>> >
>> > They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them
>> for about £23.
>>
>> And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot
>> less.......
>
> I would expect the prices to gradually drop until switchover.
> After switchover, anyone without one will not be getting one - so the
> bottom will drop out the
> market. Production of boxes is likely to stop, with shops clearing their
> old stocks at really
> low prices.
> Production will then focus on digital TVs, rather than boxes to add
> digital.
>
> A few years back, the bottom fell out the TV market. Whole chains of
> stores disappeared. Even
> Dixons / Currys retail group closed many stores a while back.
> TVs had remained the same for some years, colour and Teletext were old
> technology, so there was
> no reason for people to be buying new sets. Digital has given the market
> a boost but, after
> switchover, that will gradually die off as everyone ends up with complete
> digital TVs.
> snipped>
> Peter.
>
>

another problem at the moment with digital tv, is that the goverment are
talking about changing the format from mpeg3 to mpeg4.
so anyone who has the tv with fitted digital tv will becone u/s
at least if you have a box then the cost of another one will be alot
cheaper.

In article <1Uf6h.20263$Zy3.15722@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>,
deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no ( bongo) wrote:

> another problem at the moment with digital tv, is that the
> goverment are talking about changing the format from mpeg3 to
> mpeg4.

Given there is no standard called MPEG3, that would be hard to do...

--
Paul Cummins

**FREE** mobile phones, with FREE line rental
http://www.gstgroup.co.uk/

"Paul Cummins" <agree2pay4uce@spam.vlaad.co.uk> wrote...
> deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no ( bongo) wrote...
> >
> > another problem at the moment with digital tv, is that the
> > goverment are talking about changing the format from mpeg3 to
> > mpeg4.
>
> Given there is no standard called MPEG3,

There was a standard, it just wasn't used. This is why the next
standard is MPEG-4.

> that would be hard to do...

They could still change to MPEG-4, just that it would be from MPEG-2

I would be interested to know whether there are plans to change
and whether existing equipment would be able to adapt,
considering that MPEG-4 has been around some time.

I find it hard to believe that, after years switching over, they would
then change the standard and leave the British public with a sht-load
of new, but rather useless, equipment.
Anyone spending Hundreds, or even over £1000 on a TV would go
ape if that was then made useless by another change in transmission
standards.

Regards,

Peter.
http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/

--
Phhhrrrt... Beep.

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bongo	Re: top up tv box "Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:45497cb8$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > whats it worth > pick them up on the local carboots for around £5 to £10. not a lot but there are so many about

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hugh.g.rekshun	Re: top up tv box Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable.. i've had mine eight years now !! and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting on the codes to be bought out.. "Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:45497cb8$1_2@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com... > whats it worth >

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HammerChewer	Re: top up tv box "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. > the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable.. > i've had mine eight years now !! > and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting on > the codes to be bought out.. > > > Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then.

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bongo	Re: top up tv box "HammerChewer" <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... >> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. >> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more reliable.. >> i've had mine eight years now !! >> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting >> on the codes to be bought out.. >> >> >> > Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then. > not if you know where to look/ you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free.

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hugh.g.rekshun	Re: top up tv box and where do i look, years ago it was on ondigital.com before it got re directed to the original on digital site, so now with top up TV there must be a way of using an MM2 or similar card ?? " bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message news:f4r2h.70477$pa.12266@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > > "HammerChewer" > <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in > message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... >>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. >>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more >>> reliable.. >>> i've had mine eight years now !! >>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting >>> on the codes to be bought out.. >>> >>> >>> >> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then. >> > > not if you know where to look/ > > you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free. > > > > > > >

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HammerChewer	Re: top up tv box " bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message news:f4r2h.70477$pa.12266@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... > > "HammerChewer" > <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in > message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... >>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. >>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more >>> reliable.. >>> i've had mine eight years now !! >>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting >>> on the codes to be bought out.. >>> >>> >>> >> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then. >> > > not if you know where to look/ > > you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free. > > > > > > I certainly know where to look and the only thing available is a Keygen for codes for the likes of Setanta but no cards.

	#9
mikeFNB	Re: top up tv box or worldofdigital its all there mike " bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message news:%Hs2h.61125$L.46852@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net... > > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:%is2h.22307$j4.14407@newsfe1-win.ntli.net... >> and where do i look, > > > snipped > > first get known by people at http://deansplace.org/ > become a member, time will tell :-) > > > > > >

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deBaser	Re: top up tv box "HammerChewer" <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in message news:7ks2h.76491$6C2.43197@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... > > " bongo" <deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no> wrote in message > news:f4r2h.70477$pa.12266@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "HammerChewer" >> <pkearnisadipstickwhostickshisnosein@thingsofnocon cerntohim.com> wrote in >> message news:5Uq2h.70472$pa.17425@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net... >>> >>> "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote in message >>> news:klp2h.12061$p8.7249@newsfe3-win.ntli.net... >>>> Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. >>>> the older nokia On Digital's are worth buying as they are more >>>> reliable.. >>>> i've had mine eight years now !! >>>> and i've still got the dogy card somehwere and programmer, just waiting >>>> on the codes to be bought out.. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Methinks you will be waiting an awful long time then. >>> >> >> not if you know where to look/ >> >> you can even get pay-per-view on satelites these days for free. >> >> >> >> >> >> > I certainly know where to look and the only thing available is a Keygen > for codes for the likes of Setanta but no cards. > I have a multi satellite system. I have 5000 channels of stuff. About 200 are in English or carry English films. I always interested in new channels. What websites do you recommend. I know a few good ones but it always pays to pool information Andy

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HammerChewer	Re: top up tv box And neither of them will tell you how to program a card to get Top up TV.

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Peter	Re: top up tv box "Nigel" <red_devil_69@tiscali.co.uk> wrote... > > whats it worth Are you sure you posted this to the right group? Surely it depends upon the model, but Set Top boxes are now quite cheap - from about £25 new in the shops. I am not sure how much TTV costs, if they get that with the box, but maybe Freeview will have the info or a link... http://www.freeview.co.uk/ Regards, Peter.

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Magnum M3	Re: top up tv box "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message news:4552306d.1@entanet... > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote... > > > > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. > > They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them for about £23. > > > Regards, > Peter. And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot less....... 73' Graham -- -- ...-- -.-- ... ..- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)

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Peter	Re: top up tv box "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote... > "Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote... > > "hugh.g.rekshun" <m1adu.m5adu@ntlworld.com> wrote... > > > > > > Brand new normal digital boxes are £30.. > > > > They are now cheaper than that. I hear that Argos are now selling them > for about £23. > > And no doubt when the changeover comes they will be probably a lot > less....... I would expect the prices to gradually drop until switchover. After switchover, anyone without one will not be getting one - so the bottom will drop out the market. Production of boxes is likely to stop, with shops clearing their old stocks at really low prices. Production will then focus on digital TVs, rather than boxes to add digital. A few years back, the bottom fell out the TV market. Whole chains of stores disappeared. Even Dixons / Currys retail group closed many stores a while back. TVs had remained the same for some years, colour and Teletext were old technology, so there was no reason for people to be buying new sets. Digital has given the market a boost but, after switchover, that will gradually die off as everyone ends up with complete digital TVs. CB has remained mainly the same for many years, just a few small changes, but I wonder if CADS will give CB a boost. The number of churches may be small, but what of the members buying them to listen? Also, this may give the band some publicity, with church members realising that they can also use them to talk to each other - even if they don't need them to listen to the services. Regards, Peter.

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Paul Cummins	Re: top up tv box In article <1Uf6h.20263$Zy3.15722@newsfe2-win.ntli.net>, deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no ( bongo) wrote: > another problem at the moment with digital tv, is that the > goverment are talking about changing the format from mpeg3 to > mpeg4. Given there is no standard called MPEG3, that would be hard to do... -- Paul Cummins FREE mobile phones, with FREE line rental http://www.gstgroup.co.uk/

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Peter	Re: top up tv box "Paul Cummins" <agree2pay4uce@spam.vlaad.co.uk> wrote... > deeeenoregistrar@hotmail.co.uk.no ( bongo) wrote... > > > > another problem at the moment with digital tv, is that the > > goverment are talking about changing the format from mpeg3 to > > mpeg4. > > Given there is no standard called MPEG3, There was a standard, it just wasn't used. This is why the next standard is MPEG-4. > that would be hard to do... They could still change to MPEG-4, just that it would be from MPEG-2 I would be interested to know whether there are plans to change and whether existing equipment would be able to adapt, considering that MPEG-4 has been around some time. I find it hard to believe that, after years switching over, they would then change the standard and leave the British public with a sht-load of new, but rather useless, equipment. Anyone spending Hundreds, or even over £1000 on a TV would go ape if that was then made useless by another change in transmission standards. Regards, Peter. http://www.citizensband.radiouk.com/ -- Phhhrrrt... Beep.