Arctic Driver

I've just lost my job in a factory (Gee thanks Tony Blair!) and
gone back to driving arcticulated (private joke) trucks.

No-one on the fleet uses cb any more now they've got phones.
But twice a day on the M3 up to the smoke from the docks is so boring. I
went
back to cb, but nobody's on like 20 years ago was.

My mates on the fleet said there was a special licence for drivers on the
M3 so we could also talk to the hams but we cant get it from the post Office
any more. We have to go to the technical college. If I took my 9 year old
son
on the friday then wed both have a licence by Monday, true?
Which colledges give out these licences and where can I get a hams cb set
from?
Which ham channels do you 19 for a copy on?

Malkavian

"Arctic Driver" <secret@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> I've just lost my job in a factory (Gee thanks Tony Blair!) and
> gone back to driving arcticulated (private joke) trucks.
>
> No-one on the fleet uses cb any more now they've got phones.
> But twice a day on the M3 up to the smoke from the docks is so boring. I
> went
> back to cb, but nobody's on like 20 years ago was.

Mobile phone, free computer chat rooms etc affect the popularity of radio
hobbies such as cb and amateur radio. They are not dead or dying, just not
as popular as they once were.
>
> My mates on the fleet said there was a special licence for drivers on the
> M3 so we could also talk to the hams but we cant get it from the post
> Office
> any more. We have to go to the technical college. If I took my 9 year old
> son

The m3 licence is actually known as the Foundation License and it's the
route anyone who wants to get in amateur radio takes. The m3 is so called
because it's the prefix of their callsigns.


> on the friday then wed both have a licence by Monday, true?

No. You hear whether you've passed or failed on the day of the exam but it
takes about a fortnight for your licence to come through (allegedly)

> Which colledges give out these licences and where can I get a hams cb set
> from?
> Which ham channels do you 19 for a copy on?

LOL And I thought you were serious. you got me there


>

Road_Hog®

"Arctic Driver" <secret@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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>Snip<

You need to post it in uk.radio.amateur, they're a helpful knowledgeable lot
in there and always welcome beginners into their hobby. Walt, Ged or Airy R
Bean will probably be among the first to jump in and offer you some advice.
Although some of these may either be to inebriated to answer or serving time
at her majesty's pleasure.

Malkavian

"Road_Hog®" <sales@2U.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> "Arctic Driver" <secret@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:ejm382$5ou$1@news.datemas.de...
>
>>Snip<
>
> You need to post it in uk.radio.amateur, they're a helpful knowledgeable
> lot in there and always welcome beginners into their hobby. Walt, Ged or
> Airy R Bean will probably be among the first to jump in and offer you some
> advice. Although some of these may either be to inebriated to answer or
> serving time at her majesty's pleasure.
>

He's a windup. very good too but gave it away at the end.

Guv'nor

Arctic Driver wrote:
> I've just lost my job in a factory (Gee thanks Tony Blair!) --


I think losing your job was down to your own lack of intelligence... Poor
attempt at a Troll BTW


When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

Guv'nor

Malkavian wrote:

>>
> Swings and roundabouts. The way to solve that is to figure out why we
> can't make a gateaux for 99p here.
>
>

Well we should be able to if we just employ all of the immigrants at a
similar wage they were on in the countries they ran from..

Oh wait, that's probably against their human rights

--
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

Gordon Hudson

"Guv'nor" <me@000spam.net> wrote in message
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> Malkavian wrote:
>
>>>
>> Swings and roundabouts. The way to solve that is to figure out why we
>> can't make a gateaux for 99p here.
>>
>>
>
> Well we should be able to if we just employ all of the immigrants at a
> similar wage they were on in the countries they ran from..
>
> Oh wait, that's probably against their human rights
>

Most scottish haggisses ar emade in scotland by poles.

Malkavian

"Guv'nor" <me@000spam.net> wrote in message
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> Malkavian wrote:
>
>>>
>> Swings and roundabouts. The way to solve that is to figure out why we
>> can't make a gateaux for 99p here.
>>
>>
>
> Well we should be able to if we just employ all of the immigrants at a
> similar wage they were on in the countries they ran from..

Either that or we lower our prices and the greedy bastards who keep the
prices high stop being greedy. Wait, that'll never happen.
>
> Oh wait, that's probably against their human rights
>

I think the finacial way this country is run is against human rights.

> --
> When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

I gave up drinking.

>

Malkavian

"Gordon Hudson" <hostroute@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Guv'nor" <me@000spam.net> wrote in message
> news:csGdnesiutwRY8PYRVnyjg@bt.com...
>> Malkavian wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>> Swings and roundabouts. The way to solve that is to figure out why we
>>> can't make a gateaux for 99p here.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Well we should be able to if we just employ all of the immigrants at a
>> similar wage they were on in the countries they ran from..
>>
>> Oh wait, that's probably against their human rights
>>
>
> Most scottish haggisses ar emade in scotland by poles.
Poles? scaffold poles, telegraph poles?

>

zpk

"Arctic Driver" <secret@nowhere.net> wrote:
> My mates on the fleet said there was a special licence for drivers on the
> M3 so we could also talk to the hams but we cant get it from the post Office
[snip]
> Which ham channels do you 19 for a copy on?


sniff sniff..... hmmmmmmmm

typicalselfrighteoustw@ontheroad.com

On 18-Nov-2006, "Gordon Hudson" <hostroute@gmail.com> wrote:

> Most scottish haggisses ar emade in scotland by poles.

for haggisses read "haggii"

as for poles in scotland making haggii, I didn't know cabers were able to!

Jock

Guv'nor

zpk wrote:
> "Arctic Driver" <secret@nowhere.net> wrote:
>> My mates on the fleet said there was a special licence for drivers
>> on the M3 so we could also talk to the hams but we cant get it from
>> the post Office [snip] Which ham channels do you 19 for a copy on?
>
>
> sniff sniff..... hmmmmmmmm

Fortunately the main victim of this is the lorry driver, and can I say as a
driver of many miles on the motorway each week...EXCELLENT!!!!

--
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

Guv'nor

Conor wrote:
> In article <2MWdnVoWJfUEyP3YRVnyvw@bt.com>,

> And when your animals have starved because there's no feed been delivered

We have invented Grass.....

and when you have to make catch tanks to pour all the milk
> in because its not been collected..

We will eat more cornflakes

>>
--
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

jim gm4dhj

> The aisan countries make stuff a lot cheaper because they can employ
> people for £1 a day and have them working in dangerous conditions and
> not have to have the hygene standards factories in this country have to
> comply with.

shame that

typicalselfrighteoustw@ontheroad.com

On 19-Nov-2006, "Guv'nor" <me@000spam.net> wrote:

> Use the lorries for the short routes between the rail stops and the
> delivery
> points, but let the rail network take the bulk of the traffic....
> simple....

Well.......what can i say......I've never heard of a truck delivery being
delayed due to the
"wrong type of leaves on the road"
or
"the roads are buckling under the heat"
or
"we forgot to put 50p in the leccy meter - the overhead power lines are out
of power"
or..........
shall i go on?


Jock

Guv'nor

typicalselfrighteoustw@ontheroad.com wrote:
> On 19-Nov-2006, "Guv'nor" <me@000spam.net> wrote:

> or..........
> shall i go on?
>
>
> Jock

You probably will

--
When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading

Peter

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>
> "Conor" <conor.turton@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MPG.1fc8f78ed89183de989d8e@news.individual.ne t...
> >
> > It's because most of our industry is farmed out abroad. For example, as
> > of the end of next week, we're no longer delivering to Trafford Park
> > Bakery ( a massive industrial bakery where we used to take 17 tonnes of
> > cream a day) because it's closing as it's cheaper to make stuff in
> > Portugal and ship it here. There's a price to be paid when your missus
> > is able to get a BOGOF on a 99p Gateaux, that you can't even make
> > yourself for 99p, and that price is UK jobs.
> >
> Swings and roundabouts.

Not really... how many of those countries have products made here to cut prices?

> The way to solve that is to figure out why we can't
> make a gateaux for 99p here.

To create a product in this country, they need to pay British rent, British
business rates and British wages.

The only way we can cut these prices is to employ illegal immigrants, employ
Dole cheats or manufacture abroad and import.
Two of these are illegal and at least one risks public health.

Importing food is not without it's risks, remember the Sudan issue that
affected so many products? Imported food which, although considered
fine to export from the source country, contained chemicals banned throughout
Europe... which was then added to many British food products.

It is common to see the same "food alert" issued with several products and
brands. I suspect that several companies have imported cheap ingredients
from another country and the supplier is not working to British or European
food standards.

The problem is that companies can increase their profit, making more for
the bosses and share holders, by paying the low foreign wage rates and
selling the product at high British prices.
One cure could be to extend the minimum wage rule to include foreign
employees. Any British company selling the product in the UK would
have to pay the minimum wage regardless of where the employee is
based. Let's see if the Indians taking our telephone centre jobs, in the
belief it is because of their "superior intellect", still get the jobs if they
have to be paid the same.


Regards,

Peter.

Malkavian

"Peter" <braìnbuster@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote...
>>
>> "Conor" <conor.turton@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.1fc8f78ed89183de989d8e@news.individual.ne t...
>> >
>> > It's because most of our industry is farmed out abroad. For example, as
>> > of the end of next week, we're no longer delivering to Trafford Park
>> > Bakery ( a massive industrial bakery where we used to take 17 tonnes of
>> > cream a day) because it's closing as it's cheaper to make stuff in
>> > Portugal and ship it here. There's a price to be paid when your missus
>> > is able to get a BOGOF on a 99p Gateaux, that you can't even make
>> > yourself for 99p, and that price is UK jobs.
>> >
>> Swings and roundabouts.
>
> Not really... how many of those countries have products made here to cut
> prices?

I doubt many do but that's proving my point.
>
>> The way to solve that is to figure out why we can't
>> make a gateaux for 99p here.
>
> To create a product in this country, they need to pay British rent,
> British
> business rates and British wages.

And British taxes.

>
> The only way we can cut these prices is to employ illegal immigrants,
> employ
> Dole cheats or manufacture abroad and import.
> Two of these are illegal and at least one risks public health.
>

No. The way to make them cheaper here is for people especially our
government to stop being greedy bastards.

> Importing food is not without it's risks, remember the Sudan issue that
> affected so many products? Imported food which, although considered
> fine to export from the source country, contained chemicals banned
> throughout
> Europe... which was then added to many British food products.

I cook in my kitchen all the time it doesn't cost me a fortune to keep it
clean.

>
> It is common to see the same "food alert" issued with several products and
> brands. I suspect that several companies have imported cheap ingredients
> from another country and the supplier is not working to British or
> European
> food standards.
>

Like I said, having healthy food does not justify high prices These high
prices are due to heavy taxes and heavy markups.

> The problem is that companies can increase their profit, making more for
> the bosses and share holders, by paying the low foreign wage rates and
> selling the product at high British prices.
> One cure could be to extend the minimum wage rule to include foreign
> employees. Any British company selling the product in the UK would
> have to pay the minimum wage regardless of where the employee is
> based. Let's see if the Indians taking our telephone centre jobs, in the
> belief it is because of their "superior intellect", still get the jobs if
> they
> have to be paid the same.

All that will do is increase unemployment, cause business to fold becasue
they can't or won't pay minimum wage and we won't have thier products then.
The rot is too deep, there is no way to fix the current system.


>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter.
>
>