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Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it into
plain English? I know it's cheating but at least I'm looking into it. I have a program that turns type into morse sound so I don't need that before anyone thinks I do... ;o) 73' Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher > it into plain English? 73' > Graham http://tinyurl.com/j24cq -- Avoid the use of Soap Become a G3 |
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http://justlearnmorsecode.com/download.html
but there are a few here too http://www.g3vfp.org/download.html HTH "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:452d5d3b$0$1349$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it > into > plain English? I know it's cheating but at least I'm looking into it. I > have > a program that turns type into morse sound so I don't need that before > anyone thinks I do... ;o) > > 73' > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote > Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it > into > plain English? Try CWGet by DXSoft. Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required. |
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"John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org... > > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote > >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it >> into >> plain English? > > Try CWGet by DXSoft. > > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required. > Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper* |
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"Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message
news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... > > "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org... > > > > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote > > > >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it > >> into > >> plain English? > > > > Try CWGet by DXSoft. > > > > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required. > > > > Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper* Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean.. 73' Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:453208cc$0$1354$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message > news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org... >> > >> > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote >> > >> >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it >> >> into >> >> plain English? >> > >> > Try CWGet by DXSoft. >> > >> > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required. >> > >> >> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper* > > Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean.. > > 73' > Graham I couldn't follow it either. |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:453208cc$0$1354$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message > news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org... >> > >> > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote >> > >> >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it >> >> into >> >> plain English? >> > >> > Try CWGet by DXSoft. >> > >> > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required. >> > >> >> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper* > > Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean.. > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. > 73' > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > |
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the >> FX >> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. > > you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR > especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. > ...just like those who cant speak English that well and pronounce their words funny. Like trying to say "33 and a third" and coming out with "Turty tree and a turd" )70 trees ZPK Andy |
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"deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> > you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR > > especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. > > > > ..just like those who cant speak English that well and pronounce their words > funny. Like trying to say "33 and a third" and coming out with "Turty tree > and a turd" )yes.... sumINK lyke that. |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the >> FX >> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. > > you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR > especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you reackon it's time you got over it? > |
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:XYpYg.18344$L.12080@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net... > >> > >> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper* > > > > Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean.. > > > > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. Ah, now I'm with you. I've done the same )Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX > > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. > > you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR > especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. My dear ZPK. You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking into Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the > FX >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. >> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. > > My dear ZPK. > > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking > into > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... > > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to take a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for the Morse enthusiasts. Andy |
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"deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... > > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message > news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message > > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... > >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> > >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the > > FX > >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc. > >> > >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR > >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. > > > > My dear ZPK. > > > > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking > > into > > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you > > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start > > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... > > > > Graham > > -- > > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > > > > > I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to take > a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for > the Morse enthusiasts. > > Andy Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that translate morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something you or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid. If a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official' type courses. Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm getting on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle. Regards, Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... >> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in >> > message >> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... >> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but > the >> > FX >> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. > etc. >> >> >> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR >> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. >> > >> > My dear ZPK. >> > >> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking >> > into >> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are > you >> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start >> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... >> > >> > Graham >> > -- >> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- >> > >> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... >> > >> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) >> > >> > >> >> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to > take >> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for >> the Morse enthusiasts. >> >> Andy > > Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that > translate > morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one > mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something > you > or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid. > If > a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then > surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official' > type courses. > > Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm > getting > on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle. > > Regards, > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > There is a program that generates imperfect Morse with even a bit of QRM. I cant remember what it's called but an excellent proggy for learning the black art. Andy |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... >> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in >> > message >> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... >> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but > the >> > FX >> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. > etc. >> >> >> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR >> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. >> > >> > My dear ZPK. >> > >> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking >> > into >> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are > you >> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start >> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... >> > >> > Graham >> > -- >> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- >> > >> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... >> > >> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) >> > >> > >> >> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to > take >> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for >> the Morse enthusiasts. >> >> Andy > > Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that > translate > morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one > mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something > you > or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid. > If > a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then > surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official' > type courses. > > Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm > getting > on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle. > > Regards, > Graham Seriously give http://justlearnmorsecode.com/download.html a try. It's a nice bit of kit. I use it. You start of on tweo letters, it plays the same letters over and over again and when you've mastered two, you movve up to three. You can set the speed and you learn to understand morse by ear, when I want to practice I hook up one of my morse capable radios to a dummy load, plug my morse key in and rattle off what i hear from the software. If you had a morse key on an oscillator with a line out on it, you could plug it into cwget and check if the morse. if you don't have an oscillator you could buy one or make one. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...iagram&me ta= > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message > news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... >> >> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... >> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in >> > message >> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie... >> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but > the >> > FX >> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. > etc. >> >> >> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR >> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET. >> > >> > My dear ZPK. >> > >> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking >> > into >> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are > you >> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start >> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people... >> > >> > Graham >> > -- >> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- >> > >> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... >> > >> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) >> > >> > >> >> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to > take >> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for >> the Morse enthusiasts. >> >> Andy > > Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that > translate > morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one > mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something > you > or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid. > If > a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then > surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official' > type courses. > > Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm > getting > on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle. > > Regards, > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > How about Mixw. It will do most digi modes inc Morse. BTW PSK31 is far better. Andy |
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you oh i suppose then you too would be happy to tolerate lower standardsn everything else too ? amateur radio has been officially turned into multiband cb radio. and for what ? to get cb'ers off 27mhz so it can be given to others officialy ? but where do you put the cbers ? on the amateur bands ... thats where ! great plan... how do we achieve it ? lower the entry standards so that even a dog can do some of the syllabus. great idea ! |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you dear dear graham.. i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it was there. i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it. i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam ...then get your licence. i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second time. i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others. i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could be only jealous. now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than anything else. |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:4533dbcb.2999467@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> > yes.... sumINK lyke that >> >> I take it you're a paddy too, ZPK. > to you yes.. to anyone else no. > There's no shame in being Irish. It has to be a whole lot better than being English. > >> >> Don't worry about Debase. > nah debaser is alright. > > even for a cb'er, he's alright. You're gonna encounter the odd cber on a CB newsgroup. > > i might even walk into the same room as him some day. > (but i'd have to think about it first) > As long as it's a chat room. > |
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> You're gonna encounter the odd cber on a CB newsgroup. yes... odd cb'er is right :-) |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:4533dc42.3118308@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you > > oh i suppose then you too would be happy to tolerate lower standardsn > everything else too ? > It depends what you mean by, "lower" > amateur radio has been officially turned into multiband cb radio. > and for what ? > > to get cb'ers off 27mhz so it can be given to others officialy ? > > but where do you put the cbers ? > > on the amateur bands ... thats where ! Even in my day a lot of amateurs originated on CB > > > great plan... > > how do we achieve it ? > > lower the entry standards so that even a dog can do some of the syllabus. I know some smart people who failed the FL. > > > great idea ! > You don't think it's necessary to invite more people thus preventing the hobby dying? You and I and even the M3's appreciate the buzz of working as far as possible with as little power as possible via a piece of wet string but they can't appreciate it until they taste it. I'm saying that without these drastic measures the hobby will die with the old G's. You don't want that to happen do you? |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie... > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > >> Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you > > dear dear graham.. > > i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it > was there. > It's still there, ZPK. It's just that people have a choice now. > i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and > wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it. How many ran away from it and why? *open goal* > > i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam > ..then get your licence. > > i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second > time. > > i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others. > > i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high > reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could > be only jealous. > now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a > point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than > anything else. > Me too. The G3's can behave like complete children, particularly on HF. Anyone would think they owned the bands. |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message news:4533dbcb.2999467@news.iol.ie... > "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> > yes.... sumINK lyke that >> >> I take it you're a paddy too, ZPK. > to you yes.. to anyone else no. > > >> >> Don't worry about Debase. > nah debaser is alright. > > even for a cb'er, he's alright. > > i might even walk into the same room as him some day. > (but i'd have to think about it first) > > ummm. Im an ex CBer who did the old novice (2E1) and then the M1 a year later. I did try for my Morse but on the day that I was supposed to take the exam I was called into work to sort a problem out. I was general manager of the passenger carrying balloon in Bournemouth Gardens at the time. I got to the exam and I went Morse deaf so I said I would come back in 6 months. I never did and after that the rest is history as they say. How long have you been licensed and how old were you when you did it ZPK? I one day might try and pick up Morse again. I have so many other things to learn before hand that it keeps getting put back. Andy |
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"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie... > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > > > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you > > dear dear graham.. One dear is enough otherwise people will start talking.... ![]() > i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it > was there. Good man... > i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and > wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it. > > i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam > ..then get your licence. But why should I be devoid of operator use until I pass the Full licence? As long as I observe correct procedure Shirley that is more important. Just because I could pass a Full licence does not necessarily mean I would make a better operator. > i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second > time. Good man... > i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others. But there is a difference between running away and just not fancying that part of AR. > i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high > reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could > be only jealous. > now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a > point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than > anything else. I agree that the Foundation Licence was too simple and had no conditions put upon it like advancing in the first year or having the licence revoked. But I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should have been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their disapproval, You may have, I don't know, but there is a system in place and as long as it's followed with correct procedure then what is the problem? I do agree though that Morse should have it's place and those who do not have a pass at whatever level should not be allowed to operate on certain bands, but then again this is not down to me.... Like I have said on numerous occasions, Morse is not the be all and end all of AR. It is a much bigger beastie than that. The only relevance morse had in the past was like elitism allowing the class 'A's more privileges for learning an 'ancient' code. The fact some people like using morse should not be a big stick to beat everyone else with just because it's the thing they like best about AR. I do, however get a little disgruntled in postings that label all other calls, especially M3 as 'windie lickers' and 'lazy arsed' unless they actually deserve that title. Bad operators should be encouraged to conform or be chased off AR whatever class licence they hold. That is my belief. ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o) 73' Graham -- -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:4533f10c$0$1355$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com... > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message > news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie... >> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are > you >> >> dear dear graham.. > > One dear is enough otherwise people will start talking.... ![]() > >> i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it >> was there. > > Good man... > >> i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and >> wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it. >> >> i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam >> ..then get your licence. > > But why should I be devoid of operator use until I pass the Full licence? > As > long as I observe correct procedure Shirley that is more important. Just > because I could pass a Full licence does not necessarily mean I would make > a > better operator. > >> i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second >> time. > > Good man... > >> i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others. > > But there is a difference between running away and just not fancying that > part of AR. > >> i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high >> reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could >> be only jealous. >> now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a >> point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than >> anything else. > > I agree that the Foundation Licence was too simple and had no conditions > put > upon it like advancing in the first year or having the licence revoked. I disagree with that, the license revoking bit, I mean. The amateur might just want to be a telephony operator. Why should he be forced to go into more depth than that? >But > I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should > have > been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their > disapproval, You may have, I don't know, but there is a system in place > and > as long as it's followed with correct procedure then what is the problem? > I do agree though that Morse should have it's place and those who do not > have a pass at whatever level should not be allowed to operate on certain > bands, but then again this is not down to me.... You wish to block off entire bands from none- Morse users? why not just the part of the band allocated for Morse? > > Like I have said on numerous occasions, Morse is not the be all and end > all > of AR. It is a much bigger beastie than that. The only relevance morse had > in the past was like elitism allowing the class 'A's more privileges for > learning an 'ancient' code. The fact some people like using morse should > not > be a big stick to beat everyone else with just because it's the thing they > like best about AR. > These days if you're going to get elitist, why not go for FSK? > I do, however get a little disgruntled in postings that label all other > calls, especially M3 as 'windie lickers' and 'lazy arsed' unless they > actually deserve that title. Bad operators should be encouraged to conform > or be chased off AR whatever class licence they hold. That is my belief. > > ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o) > Wha? I nodded off then. ![]() > 73' > Graham > -- > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. --- > > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life... > > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk) > > |
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"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o) its all one now. |
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"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote: > I disagree with that, the license revoking bit, I mean. The amateur might > just want to be a telephony operator. Why should he be forced to go into > more depth than that? because thats the syllabus. and now for the m3 - the syllabus contains a compulsory but farce of a morse appreciation which has been described by one star of the story as "my dog could do it" before all this, b-licensees were jumping up and down howling and whinging about anything to do with morse code - even at 5wpm. yes 5wpm ! not even 12wpm. but as soon as they were told that "my dog could do it" and it'll get you onto hf, they turned up in their thousands to sit a compulsory subject of morse code which weeks before they were jumping up+down objecting to. now some of those very same people are part of the system(!!) that forces beginners to sit that same subject that they objected to previously . and if a beginner, uses the very same objections to the morse appreciation, that was used against the morse test, that beginner will not fulfil the syllabus and will not get any licence at all. whereas, before you could get a b-licence which allowed you to get down to 50mhz - and now everywhere. > > >But > > I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should > > have > > been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their > > disapproval, You |