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  #1
Magnum M3
 
Default Morse code

Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it into
plain English? I know it's cheating but at least I'm looking into it. I have
a program that turns type into morse sound so I don't need that before
anyone thinks I do... ;o)

73'
Graham
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-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #2
The Guv
 
Default Re: Morse code

Magnum M3 wrote:
> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher
> it into plain English?

73'
> Graham



http://tinyurl.com/j24cq
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Avoid the use of Soap

Become a G3


 
  #3
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code

http://justlearnmorsecode.com/download.html

but there are a few here too

http://www.g3vfp.org/download.html

HTH

"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:452d5d3b$0$1349$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
> into
> plain English? I know it's cheating but at least I'm looking into it. I
> have
> a program that turns type into morse sound so I don't need that before
> anyone thinks I do... ;o)
>
> 73'
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>



 
  #4
John
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote

> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
> into
> plain English?


Try CWGet by DXSoft.

Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required.


 
  #5
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org...
>
> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>
>> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
>> into
>> plain English?

>
> Try CWGet by DXSoft.
>
> Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required.
>


Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper*


 
  #6
Magnum M3
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message
news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org...
> >
> > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
> >
> >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
> >> into
> >> plain English?

> >
> > Try CWGet by DXSoft.
> >
> > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required.
> >

>
> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper*


Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean..

73'
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #7
John
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> "Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message
> news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org...
>> >
>> > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>> >
>> >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
>> >> into
>> >> plain English?
>> >
>> > Try CWGet by DXSoft.
>> >
>> > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required.
>> >

>>
>> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper*

>
> Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean..
>
> 73'
> Graham



I couldn't follow it either.


 
  #8
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:453208cc$0$1354$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "Malkavian" <Malk@insane.org> wrote in message
> news:NodYg.26914$6C2.26393@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "John" <no@spam.4.me> wrote in message news:egqpim$l22$1@emma.aioe.org...
>> >
>> > "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote
>> >
>> >> Anyone know of a good program that can listen to morse and decipher it
>> >> into
>> >> plain English?
>> >
>> > Try CWGet by DXSoft.
>> >
>> > Decodes the audio via the soundcard - no extra hardware required.
>> >

>>
>> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper*

>
> Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean..
>


It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX
bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.


> 73'
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>



 
  #9
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX
> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.


you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.

 
  #10
deBaser
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the
>> FX
>> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.

>
> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.
>


...just like those who cant speak English that well and pronounce their words
funny. Like trying to say "33 and a third" and coming out with "Turty tree
and a turd" )

70 trees ZPK

Andy


 
  #11
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> > you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
> > especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.
> >

>
> ..just like those who cant speak English that well and pronounce their words
> funny. Like trying to say "33 and a third" and coming out with "Turty tree
> and a turd" )



yes.... sumINK lyke that.

 
  #12
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the
>> FX
>> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.

>
> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.


Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you
reackon it's time you got over it?

>



 
  #13
Magnum M3
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:XYpYg.18344$L.12080@newsfe4-gui.ntli.net...
> >>
> >> Where's the fun in that? *fx, scribes CWGet in a peice of paper*

> >
> > Could you run that one past me again... I'm not sure what you mean..
> >

>
> It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the FX
> bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.


Ah, now I'm with you. I've done the same )

Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #14
Magnum M3
 
Default Re: Morse code

"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the

FX
> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.

>
> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.


My dear ZPK.

You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking into
Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you
happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...

Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #15
deBaser
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
> news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
>> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but the

> FX
>> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later. etc.

>>
>> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
>> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.

>
> My dear ZPK.
>
> You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking
> into
> Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you
> happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
> calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...
>
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>


I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to take
a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for
the Morse enthusiasts.

Andy


 
  #16
Magnum M3
 
Default Re: Morse code

"deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>
> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but

the
> > FX
> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later.

etc.
> >>
> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.

> >
> > My dear ZPK.
> >
> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking
> > into
> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

you
> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...
> >
> > Graham
> > --
> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
> >
> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
> >
> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
> >
> >

>
> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to

take
> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for
> the Morse enthusiasts.
>
> Andy


Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that translate
morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one
mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something you
or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid. If
a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then
surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official'
type courses.

Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm getting
on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle.

Regards,
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #17
deBaser
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
>> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
>> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but

> the
>> > FX
>> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later.

> etc.
>> >>
>> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
>> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.
>> >
>> > My dear ZPK.
>> >
>> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking
>> > into
>> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

> you
>> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
>> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...
>> >
>> > Graham
>> > --
>> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>> >
>> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>> >
>> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to

> take
>> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for
>> the Morse enthusiasts.
>>
>> Andy

>
> Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that
> translate
> morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one
> mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something
> you
> or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid.
> If
> a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then
> surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official'
> type courses.
>
> Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm
> getting
> on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle.
>
> Regards,
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>


There is a program that generates imperfect Morse with even a bit of QRM. I
cant remember what it's called but an excellent proggy for learning the
black art.

Andy


 
  #18
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
>> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
>> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but

> the
>> > FX
>> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later.

> etc.
>> >>
>> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
>> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.
>> >
>> > My dear ZPK.
>> >
>> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking
>> > into
>> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

> you
>> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
>> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...
>> >
>> > Graham
>> > --
>> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>> >
>> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>> >
>> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to

> take
>> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for
>> the Morse enthusiasts.
>>
>> Andy

>
> Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that
> translate
> morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one
> mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something
> you
> or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid.
> If
> a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then
> surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official'
> type courses.
>
> Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm
> getting
> on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle.
>
> Regards,
> Graham


Seriously give http://justlearnmorsecode.com/download.html a try. It's a
nice bit of kit. I use it. You start of on tweo letters, it plays the same
letters over and over again and when you've mastered two, you movve up to
three. You can set the speed and you learn to understand morse by ear,
when I want to practice I hook up one of my morse capable radios to a dummy
load, plug my morse key in and rattle off what i hear from the software. If
you had a morse key on an oscillator with a line out on it, you could plug
it into cwget and check if the morse. if you don't have an oscillator you
could buy one or make one.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...iagram&me ta=

> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>



 
  #19
deBaser
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:45337bf4$0$1351$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "deBaser" <a1debaser@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:OAFYg.24266$Fx4.3069@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net...
>>
>> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:45327061$0$1348$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
>> > "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in
>> > message
>> > news:45323f78.53272097@news.iol.ie...
>> >> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > It's joke mode. I imply that I would never use such a programme but

> the
>> > FX
>> >> > bit shows that I'm making a note of it so I can download it later.

> etc.
>> >>
>> >> you have to make allowances for those who cant decode BY EAR
>> >> especially without the use of a CRIB-SHEET.
>> >
>> > My dear ZPK.
>> >
>> > You should at least be somewhat happy that an 'M3' is actually looking
>> > into
>> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

> you
>> > happy? ...... no.... you still sit there mocking. I might as well start
>> > calling for a roger on s20 for all the encouragement you give people...
>> >
>> > Graham
>> > --
>> > -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>> >
>> > Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>> >
>> > 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>> >
>> >

>>
>> I think ZPK is right in some respects. I think that you should have to

> take
>> a Morse test to be able to send Morse. This would preserve standards for
>> the Morse enthusiasts.
>>
>> Andy

>
> Andy, seriously now, do you not see the benefits of a program that
> translate
> morse into type? It would be an excellent tool for self teaching. *No one
> mentioned anything about using it over the airwaves*, that is something
> you
> or ZKP have made up for yourselves. I purely wanted it as a training aid.
> If
> a machine was able to decipher someone's attempt at learning morse then
> surely you can see the benefits. Not everyone has time to go on 'official'
> type courses.
>
> Now, if I attempt typing morse this reader will let me know how I'm
> getting
> on.... but... now I'm beginning to wonder if it's worth the hassle.
>
> Regards,
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>


How about Mixw. It will do most digi modes inc Morse.

BTW PSK31 is far better.

Andy


 
  #20
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> > yes.... sumINK lyke that

>
> I take it you're a paddy too, ZPK.

to you yes.. to anyone else no.


>
> Don't worry about Debase.

nah debaser is alright.

even for a cb'er, he's alright.

i might even walk into the same room as him some day.
(but i'd have to think about it first)


 
  #21
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you


oh i suppose then you too would be happy to tolerate lower standardsn
everything else too ?

amateur radio has been officially turned into multiband cb radio.
and for what ?

to get cb'ers off 27mhz so it can be given to others officialy ?

but where do you put the cbers ?

on the amateur bands ... thats where !


great plan...

how do we achieve it ?

lower the entry standards so that even a dog can do some of the syllabus.


great idea !

 
  #22
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

> Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you


dear dear graham..

i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it
was there.

i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and
wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it.

i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam
...then get your licence.

i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second
time.

i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others.

i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high
reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could
be only jealous.
now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a
point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than
anything else.

 
  #23
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dbcb.2999467@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> > yes.... sumINK lyke that

>>
>> I take it you're a paddy too, ZPK.

> to you yes.. to anyone else no.
>


There's no shame in being Irish. It has to be a whole lot better than being
English.
>
>>
>> Don't worry about Debase.

> nah debaser is alright.
>
> even for a cb'er, he's alright.


You're gonna encounter the odd cber on a CB newsgroup.
>
> i might even walk into the same room as him some day.
> (but i'd have to think about it first)
>


As long as it's a chat room.
>



 
  #24
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> You're gonna encounter the odd cber on a CB newsgroup.

yes... odd cb'er is right

:-)


 
  #25
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dc42.3118308@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Are you still moaning, ZPK? You've been doing it for years. Don't you

>
> oh i suppose then you too would be happy to tolerate lower standardsn
> everything else too ?
>


It depends what you mean by, "lower"

> amateur radio has been officially turned into multiband cb radio.
> and for what ?
>
> to get cb'ers off 27mhz so it can be given to others officialy ?
>
> but where do you put the cbers ?
>
> on the amateur bands ... thats where !


Even in my day a lot of amateurs originated on CB
>
>
> great plan...
>
> how do we achieve it ?
>
> lower the entry standards so that even a dog can do some of the syllabus.


I know some smart people who failed the FL.
>
>
> great idea !
>


You don't think it's necessary to invite more people thus preventing the
hobby dying? You and I and even the M3's appreciate the buzz of working as
far as possible with as little power as possible via a piece of wet string
but they can't appreciate it until they taste it. I'm saying that without
these drastic measures the hobby will die with the old G's. You don't want
that to happen do you?


 
  #26
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie...
> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are you

>
> dear dear graham..
>
> i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it
> was there.
>


It's still there, ZPK. It's just that people have a choice now.

> i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and
> wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it.


How many ran away from it and why?

*open goal*
>
> i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam
> ..then get your licence.
>
> i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second
> time.
>
> i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others.
>
> i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high
> reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could
> be only jealous.
> now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a
> point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than
> anything else.
>


Me too. The G3's can behave like complete children, particularly on HF.
Anyone would think they owned the bands.


 
  #27
deBaser
 
Default Re: Morse code


"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dbcb.2999467@news.iol.ie...
> "Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> > yes.... sumINK lyke that

>>
>> I take it you're a paddy too, ZPK.

> to you yes.. to anyone else no.
>
>
>>
>> Don't worry about Debase.

> nah debaser is alright.
>
> even for a cb'er, he's alright.
>
> i might even walk into the same room as him some day.
> (but i'd have to think about it first)
>
>


ummm. Im an ex CBer who did the old novice (2E1) and then the M1 a year
later. I did try for my Morse but on the day that I was supposed to take
the exam I was called into work to sort a problem out. I was general manager
of the passenger carrying balloon in Bournemouth Gardens at the time. I got
to the exam and I went Morse deaf so I said I would come back in 6 months.
I never did and after that the rest is history as they say.

How long have you been licensed and how old were you when you did it ZPK? I
one day might try and pick up Morse again. I have so many other things to
learn before hand that it keeps getting put back.

Andy


 
  #28
Magnum M3
 
Default Re: Morse code

"zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie...
> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

you
>
> dear dear graham..


One dear is enough otherwise people will start talking....

> i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it
> was there.


Good man...

> i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and
> wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it.
>
> i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam
> ..then get your licence.


But why should I be devoid of operator use until I pass the Full licence? As
long as I observe correct procedure Shirley that is more important. Just
because I could pass a Full licence does not necessarily mean I would make a
better operator.

> i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second
> time.


Good man...

> i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others.


But there is a difference between running away and just not fancying that
part of AR.

> i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high
> reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could
> be only jealous.
> now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a
> point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than
> anything else.


I agree that the Foundation Licence was too simple and had no conditions put
upon it like advancing in the first year or having the licence revoked. But
I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should have
been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their
disapproval, You may have, I don't know, but there is a system in place and
as long as it's followed with correct procedure then what is the problem?
I do agree though that Morse should have it's place and those who do not
have a pass at whatever level should not be allowed to operate on certain
bands, but then again this is not down to me....

Like I have said on numerous occasions, Morse is not the be all and end all
of AR. It is a much bigger beastie than that. The only relevance morse had
in the past was like elitism allowing the class 'A's more privileges for
learning an 'ancient' code. The fact some people like using morse should not
be a big stick to beat everyone else with just because it's the thing they
like best about AR.

I do, however get a little disgruntled in postings that label all other
calls, especially M3 as 'windie lickers' and 'lazy arsed' unless they
actually deserve that title. Bad operators should be encouraged to conform
or be chased off AR whatever class licence they hold. That is my belief.

ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o)

73'
Graham
--
-.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---

Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...

73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)


 
  #29
Malkavian
 
Default Re: Morse code


"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:4533f10c$0$1355$834e42db@reader.greatnowhere. com...
> "zpk" <class-a-licence-pkearn-12wpm@eircom.org.net.edu> wrote in message
> news:4533dcdb.3271535@news.iol.ie...
>> "Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> > Morse with a curious interest.... do you offer any encouragement? Are

> you
>>
>> dear dear graham..

>
> One dear is enough otherwise people will start talking....
>
>> i encouraged so many people to try and do the simple 5wpm morse while it
>> was there.

>
> Good man...
>
>> i promised them all that once they passed it, they would look back and
>> wonder why so many b-licensees ran away from it.
>>
>> i encouraged you to get the m3 exam, the 2e exam and then do the m0 exam
>> ..then get your licence.

>
> But why should I be devoid of operator use until I pass the Full licence?
> As
> long as I observe correct procedure Shirley that is more important. Just
> because I could pass a Full licence does not necessarily mean I would make
> a
> better operator.
>
>> i spoke as someone who failed the 12wpm once and passed it the second
>> time.

>
> Good man...
>
>> i did not run away from the morse test - unlike at least 2500 others.

>
> But there is a difference between running away and just not fancying that
> part of AR.
>
>> i am so disappointed in an organisation that once held such a high
>> reputation for high standards that many countries around the world could
>> be only jealous.
>> now that same organisation has led the charge in lowering standards to a
>> point that leaves my listening to the bands more disappointed than
>> anything else.

>
> I agree that the Foundation Licence was too simple and had no conditions
> put
> upon it like advancing in the first year or having the licence revoked.


I disagree with that, the license revoking bit, I mean. The amateur might
just want to be a telephony operator. Why should he be forced to go into
more depth than that?

>But
> I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should
> have
> been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their
> disapproval, You may have, I don't know, but there is a system in place
> and
> as long as it's followed with correct procedure then what is the problem?
> I do agree though that Morse should have it's place and those who do not
> have a pass at whatever level should not be allowed to operate on certain
> bands, but then again this is not down to me....


You wish to block off entire bands from none- Morse users? why not just the
part of the band allocated for Morse?

>
> Like I have said on numerous occasions, Morse is not the be all and end
> all
> of AR. It is a much bigger beastie than that. The only relevance morse had
> in the past was like elitism allowing the class 'A's more privileges for
> learning an 'ancient' code. The fact some people like using morse should
> not
> be a big stick to beat everyone else with just because it's the thing they
> like best about AR.
>


These days if you're going to get elitist, why not go for FSK?

> I do, however get a little disgruntled in postings that label all other
> calls, especially M3 as 'windie lickers' and 'lazy arsed' unless they
> actually deserve that title. Bad operators should be encouraged to conform
> or be chased off AR whatever class licence they hold. That is my belief.
>
> ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o)
>


Wha? I nodded off then.

> 73'
> Graham
> --
> -.-. -... / .-. .- -.. .. ---
>
> Radio is only a Hobby. Don't let it rule your life...
>
> 73/51 - Hem-Free (www.open-channel.co.uk)
>
>



 
  #30
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Magnum M3" <magnum@mag2781.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>
> ANYWAY.... what has this to do with CB ;o)


its all one now.

 
  #31
zpk
 
Default Re: Morse code

"Malkavian" <a4bedaser@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> I disagree with that, the license revoking bit, I mean. The amateur might
> just want to be a telephony operator. Why should he be forced to go into
> more depth than that?


because thats the syllabus.

and now for the m3 - the syllabus contains a compulsory but farce of a
morse appreciation which has been described by one star of the story as
"my dog could do it"

before all this, b-licensees were jumping up and down howling and whinging
about anything to do with morse code - even at 5wpm.
yes 5wpm ! not even 12wpm.

but as soon as they were told that "my dog could do it" and it'll get you
onto hf, they turned up in their thousands to sit a compulsory subject of
morse code which weeks before they were jumping up+down objecting to.

now some of those very same people are part of the system(!!) that forces
beginners to sit that same subject that they objected to previously .

and if a beginner, uses the very same objections to the morse
appreciation, that was used against the morse test, that beginner will not
fulfil the syllabus and will not get any licence at all.

whereas, before you could get a b-licence which allowed you to get down to
50mhz - and now everywhere.


>
> >But
> > I have no say in this and can only do what the system allows. It should
> > have
> > been down to the existing Amateurs of the time to lobby Ofcom about their
> > disapproval, You