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  #1
Alexander Keys
 
Default Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

I'm trying to join the PROMA Yahoo group, but Yahoo will not send their
e-mail with the necessary code to sign up, and they do not have a contact
e-mail address.

I have also tried posting to alt.radio.scanner.uk, but it is not accepting
my posts.

Could you please get me onto PROMA?

(I can't find your e-mail on the site either).



 
  #2
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"Alexander Keys" <alexander.keys1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:kqdUg.46706$TF5.42496@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> I'm trying to join the PROMA Yahoo group, but Yahoo will not send their
> e-mail with the necessary code to sign up, and they do not have a contact
> e-mail address.
>
> I have also tried posting to alt.radio.scanner.uk, but it is not accepting
> my posts.
>
> Could you please get me onto PROMA?
>
> (I can't find your e-mail on the site either).


Try this link

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scanpr...guid=139958357

Ken Ward.


 
  #3
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"Alexander Keys" <alexander.keys1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:kqdUg.46706$TF5.42496@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> I'm trying to join the PROMA Yahoo group, but Yahoo will not send their
> e-mail with the necessary code to sign up, and they do not have a contact
> e-mail address.
>
> I have also tried posting to alt.radio.scanner.uk, but it is not accepting
> my posts.
>
> Could you please get me onto PROMA?
>
> (I can't find your e-mail on the site either).


By the way....... Set up a Yahoo email address as yahoo groups don't always
get through to Ntl addresses. It is a NTL fault!

I had to do it!

Ken Ward.


 
  #4
PromaBoss
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

kens link should work

if not email me


promachief@yahoo.co.uk


"Alexander Keys" <alexander.keys1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:kqdUg.46706$TF5.42496@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> I'm trying to join the PROMA Yahoo group, but Yahoo will not send their
> e-mail with the necessary code to sign up, and they do not have a contact
> e-mail address.
>
> I have also tried posting to alt.radio.scanner.uk, but it is not accepting
> my posts.
>
> Could you please get me onto PROMA?
>
> (I can't find your e-mail on the site either).
>
>
>



 
  #5
PromaBoss
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the peo[le
who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11 for the line
rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!


its a problem they know about but seem to not care about



"Ken Ward" <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> wrote in message
news:7LdUg.46711$TF5.10783@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>
> "Alexander Keys" <alexander.keys1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:kqdUg.46706$TF5.42496@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
>> I'm trying to join the PROMA Yahoo group, but Yahoo will not send their
>> e-mail with the necessary code to sign up, and they do not have a contact
>> e-mail address.
>>
>> I have also tried posting to alt.radio.scanner.uk, but it is not
>> accepting my posts.
>>
>> Could you please get me onto PROMA?
>>
>> (I can't find your e-mail on the site either).

>
> By the way....... Set up a Yahoo email address as yahoo groups don't
> always get through to Ntl addresses. It is a NTL fault!
>
> I had to do it!
>
> Ken Ward.
>
>



 
  #6
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the peo[le
> who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11 for the
> line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>
>
> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about


Paul, we can't complain as they are bigger and better than us! :-))

Ken Ward.


 
  #7
mikeFNB
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

its nothing to do with NTL

Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with a
joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.

one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing. [amoungst
other listings]

if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the server
its through gets blocked by SORBS.

it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
their server{s} from the listing.

thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.

the problem lies with Yahoo.

this can easily be checked by opening a yahoo.co.uk email ad
enabling pop forwarding
and sending all your group mail to that yahoo.co.uk email ad.
then autofwd this to your ntl account.
then the mail will arrive

mike



"Ken Ward" <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> wrote in message
news:lbgUg.39299$Mh2.21397@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>
> "PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the peo[le
>> who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11 for the
>> line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>>
>>
>> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about

>
> Paul, we can't complain as they are bigger and better than us! :-))
>
> Ken Ward.
>
>



 
  #8
PromaBoss
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

someone else told me same thing but said its down to NTL

i had said i was annoyed at yahoo becasue of the problems and someone said
almost word for word what you said but put blame on NTL


at end of day i prefr to have the spam than have to have all my email
problems ,sdont care who it is just wish someone would have the decencly to
do sokmething about it!!

surely between NTL and yahoo they can talk and work it out,whats so
difficult two compnaies surely can work such problems out easy enough for
benefit of the consumer trouble is nowadays the consumers is the last thing
compnaies care about

regards paul
"mikeFNB" <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote in message
news:3HhUg.35724$0i4.32939@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
> its nothing to do with NTL
>
> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with a
> joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>
> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
> [amoungst other listings]
>
> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>
> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
> their server{s} from the listing.
>
> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.
>
> the problem lies with Yahoo.
>
> this can easily be checked by opening a yahoo.co.uk email ad
> enabling pop forwarding
> and sending all your group mail to that yahoo.co.uk email ad.
> then autofwd this to your ntl account.
> then the mail will arrive
>
> mike
>
>
>
> "Ken Ward" <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> wrote in message
> news:lbgUg.39299$Mh2.21397@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>
>> "PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the
>>> peo[le who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11
>>> for the line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>>>
>>>
>>> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about

>>
>> Paul, we can't complain as they are bigger and better than us! :-))
>>
>> Ken Ward.
>>
>>

>
>



 
  #9
Jim GM4DHJ
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

> decencly
> sokmething


Ah!......a new words for me to use..... cool!


 
  #10
Jim GM4DHJ
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the peo[le
> who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11 for the
> line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>
>
> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about


we don't care either...........


 
  #11
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

I have cured the problem by taking NTL out of the chain!

Ken Ward.


 
  #12
Jeff
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

"> its nothing to do with NTL
>
> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with a
> joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>
> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
> [amoungst other listings]
>
> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>
> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
> their server{s} from the listing.
>
> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.


It must be more than that because Wannado , now Orange, works fine here.

Regards
Jeff



 
  #13
Mike GW8IJT
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

"PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:NxlUg.49486$wo3.20842@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> someone else told me same thing but said its down to NTL
>
> i had said i was annoyed at yahoo becasue of the problems and someone said
> almost word for word what you said but put blame on NTL
>
>
> at end of day i prefr to have the spam than have to have all my email
> problems ,sdont care who it is just wish someone would have the decencly
> to do sokmething about it!!
>
> surely between NTL and yahoo they can talk and work it out,whats so
> difficult two compnaies surely can work such problems out easy enough for
> benefit of the consumer trouble is nowadays the consumers is the last
> thing compnaies care about
>
> regards paul


Several non-radio oriented groups that I am a member of have migrated from
Yahoo groups to Google groups due to Yahoo's totally crap service.
Even trying to check my email on the Yahoo server often comes up with a "no
such server" error, which is also total crap.
Regards Mike.


 
  #14
Vangelis
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

I use NTL and have no problems with proma group or yahoo groups


"PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:NxlUg.49486$wo3.20842@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> someone else told me same thing but said its down to NTL
>
> i had said i was annoyed at yahoo becasue of the problems and someone said
> almost word for word what you said but put blame on NTL
>
>
> at end of day i prefr to have the spam than have to have all my email
> problems ,sdont care who it is just wish someone would have the decencly
> to do sokmething about it!!
>
> surely between NTL and yahoo they can talk and work it out,whats so
> difficult two compnaies surely can work such problems out easy enough for
> benefit of the consumer trouble is nowadays the consumers is the last
> thing compnaies care about
>
> regards paul
> "mikeFNB" <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote in message
> news:3HhUg.35724$0i4.32939@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>> its nothing to do with NTL
>>
>> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with a
>> joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>>
>> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
>> [amoungst other listings]
>>
>> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
>> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>>
>> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
>> their server{s} from the listing.
>>
>> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.
>>
>> the problem lies with Yahoo.
>>
>> this can easily be checked by opening a yahoo.co.uk email ad
>> enabling pop forwarding
>> and sending all your group mail to that yahoo.co.uk email ad.
>> then autofwd this to your ntl account.
>> then the mail will arrive
>>
>> mike
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ken Ward" <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:lbgUg.39299$Mh2.21397@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>>
>>> "PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>>> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the
>>>> peo[le who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11
>>>> for the line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about
>>>
>>> Paul, we can't complain as they are bigger and better than us! :-))
>>>
>>> Ken Ward.
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
  #15
PromaBoss
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

its strage some seem to be ok though loads of people on mine and others
groups and mostly those with NTL accounts have major problems
some of the less used groups i still have on NTL email adress and every few
days now they bounce and you dont know theyt have bounced for a bout 3/4
days so you miss a lot of current emails from the groups

regards paul

"Vangelis" <vang.eliss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:w6rUg.56452$WV2.52786@newsfe2-gui.ntli.net...
>I use NTL and have no problems with proma group or yahoo groups
>
>
> "PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:NxlUg.49486$wo3.20842@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
>> someone else told me same thing but said its down to NTL
>>
>> i had said i was annoyed at yahoo becasue of the problems and someone
>> said almost word for word what you said but put blame on NTL
>>
>>
>> at end of day i prefr to have the spam than have to have all my email
>> problems ,sdont care who it is just wish someone would have the decencly
>> to do sokmething about it!!
>>
>> surely between NTL and yahoo they can talk and work it out,whats so
>> difficult two compnaies surely can work such problems out easy enough for
>> benefit of the consumer trouble is nowadays the consumers is the last
>> thing compnaies care about
>>
>> regards paul
>> "mikeFNB" <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote in message
>> news:3HhUg.35724$0i4.32939@newsfe4-win.ntli.net...
>>> its nothing to do with NTL
>>>
>>> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with
>>> a joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>>>
>>> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
>>> [amoungst other listings]
>>>
>>> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
>>> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>>>
>>> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
>>> their server{s} from the listing.
>>>
>>> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.
>>>
>>> the problem lies with Yahoo.
>>>
>>> this can easily be checked by opening a yahoo.co.uk email ad
>>> enabling pop forwarding
>>> and sending all your group mail to that yahoo.co.uk email ad.
>>> then autofwd this to your ntl account.
>>> then the mail will arrive
>>>
>>> mike
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ken Ward" <ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> wrote in message
>>> news:lbgUg.39299$Mh2.21397@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>>>
>>>> "PromaBoss" <Promaboss@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:AUfUg.39298$Mh2.5991@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>>>> yes i had to change all my groups to yahoochief account as NTL the
>>>>> peo[le who take £16 a month from me for using the net and another £11
>>>>> for the line rental keep thinking my groups are spam !!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> its a problem they know about but seem to not care about
>>>>
>>>> Paul, we can't complain as they are bigger and better than us! :-))
>>>>
>>>> Ken Ward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>

>>
>>

>
>



 
  #16
mikeFNB
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

no it is down to yahoo not removing mass spammers from their system, so some
of their servers fall foul of sorbs.
they re the only ones that can put it right
and the cant be bothered to do it. basically.

there are more interested in filtering what china can see than us in the
free world.

yahoo service is crap, always has been where groups are concerned.

have a little read about how sorbs works and see the running threads on
chetnet site bout the same.

it depends on which servers get listed as to who gets/don't group mails

mike


"Jeff" <jeff@local.host> wrote in message news:eft21u$p9s$1@emma.aioe.org...
>"> its nothing to do with NTL
>>
>> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with a
>> joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>>
>> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
>> [amoungst other listings]
>>
>> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
>> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>>
>> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
>> their server{s} from the listing.
>>
>> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.

>
> It must be more than that because Wannado , now Orange, works fine here.
>
> Regards
> Jeff
>
>
>



 
  #17
PromaBoss
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

i like yahoo groups

yes having problems with them but as said both them and NTL must be able to
do sometihng

who cares about email spam,its far eaiser to deal with than spam phone calls
and mail

you see it delete it dont understand the fuss over iti want my emails coming
though on my groups


yahoo is easy to set up and manage,i looked at MSN but way too diifuclt and
forum sites worse still yahoo is best for those like me with no tech
knowledge i can set up a yahoo group in under 3 mins bet you cant anyof the
others

also more people look forr yahoo groups msn groups seem to always be so
small and hardly any mails i want groups with 20 plus mails cominng in a day

we have 4000 members of proma on yahoo,ok only about 50 regular contributors
but still plenty of mails going through
"mikeFNB" <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote in message
news:L%BUg.49619$wo3.13410@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> no it is down to yahoo not removing mass spammers from their system, so
> some of their servers fall foul of sorbs.
> they re the only ones that can put it right
> and the cant be bothered to do it. basically.
>
> there are more interested in filtering what china can see than us in the
> free world.
>
> yahoo service is crap, always has been where groups are concerned.
>
> have a little read about how sorbs works and see the running threads on
> chetnet site bout the same.
>
> it depends on which servers get listed as to who gets/don't group mails
>
> mike
>
>
> "Jeff" <jeff@local.host> wrote in message
> news:eft21u$p9s$1@emma.aioe.org...
>>"> its nothing to do with NTL
>>>
>>> Yahoo/NTL/Wannado and few other UK ISP's got together and came up with
>>> a joint inititive to combat mass spamming eminating from their servers.
>>>
>>> one of the measures was the use of the SORBS anti spammer listing.
>>> [amoungst other listings]
>>>
>>> if an ISP allows mass spamming to come from one of its users then the
>>> server its through gets blocked by SORBS.
>>>
>>> it is down to the ISP concerned, ie Yahoo to cure the problem and remove
>>> their server{s} from the listing.
>>>
>>> thus unless NTL 'unsubscribe' from this agreement its not their fault.

>>
>> It must be more than that because Wannado , now Orange, works fine here.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>>

>
>



 
  #18
know code
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

PromaBoss wrote:

> who cares about email spam,its far eaiser to deal with than spam phone calls
> and mail
>
> you see it delete it dont understand the fuss over iti want my emails coming
> though on my groups


Well, here's an example of how bad spam can get. This e-mail address I
use here on usenet (and only on usenet) was set up only 9-10 months ago.
To date, I have now received 3100+ spam e-mails to it (which I filter
off to a separate folder)!! That is, on average, over 10 spam e-mails
per day, and that is starting with a brand new e-mail account!!

Now that the address is on the spammers lists, I dread to think what
that figure will be in the next 9-10 months! Not that it really
concerns me because I usually just take a quick look to see if anyone on
usenet has e-mailed me direct and then just mark the entire folder as
read without reading any of the junk....
 
  #19
mikeFNB
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

only 10 per day
blimey when you get to +100 start to moan.

run mailwasher simple and automatic
i'm like paul
throw it all at me
i'll choose thanks not my isp

mike

"know code" <know_code@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:4522fa61$0$19911$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> PromaBoss wrote:
>
>> who cares about email spam,its far eaiser to deal with than spam phone
>> calls and mail
>>
>> you see it delete it dont understand the fuss over iti want my emails
>> coming though on my groups

>
> Well, here's an example of how bad spam can get. This e-mail address I
> use here on usenet (and only on usenet) was set up only 9-10 months ago.
> To date, I have now received 3100+ spam e-mails to it (which I filter off
> to a separate folder)!! That is, on average, over 10 spam e-mails per
> day, and that is starting with a brand new e-mail account!!
>
> Now that the address is on the spammers lists, I dread to think what that
> figure will be in the next 9-10 months! Not that it really concerns me
> because I usually just take a quick look to see if anyone on usenet has
> e-mailed me direct and then just mark the entire folder as read without
> reading any of the junk....



 
  #20
know code
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

mikeFNB wrote:
> only 10 per day
> blimey when you get to +100 start to moan.


At the moment, only 10 per day averaged over 9-10 months from a brand
new e-mail account! Remember, this account has *only* ever been used
for usenet postings and *nothing* else and in 9-10 months has managed to
attract 3100+ spam messages! Looking at the history, for the first few
months I got very little spam to this account (obviously not on the
spammers lists as it was a brand new account) but now I'm getting about
35 spam messages per day. If this account had been used to sign up for
various dubious websites, then I could understand the amount of spam,
but for a usenet only address????

> run mailwasher simple and automatic


I used to use mailwasher when I used Windows, but now that I use linux,
they don't do a linux version!! Then again, if I was really bothered
I'd install up spamassassin or something like that....

> i'm like paul
> throw it all at me
> i'll choose thanks not my isp


I'm with you on that one. I have *fast* broadband here in .nl (BT could
learn a thing or two about how to implement fast broadband from the
Dutch!!) and also no monthly data limit. So, I don't mind receiving the
spam as it just gets directed to a separate folder anyway and gets dealt
with accordingly
 
  #21
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"mikeFNB" <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote in message
news:L%BUg.49619$wo3.13410@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net...
> no it is down to yahoo not removing mass spammers from their system, so
> some of their servers fall foul of sorbs.
> they re the only ones that can put it right
> and the cant be bothered to do it. basically.


The only simple and intelligent way to avoid the problems between NTL and
Yahoo Groups IS to set up a Yahoo email a/c and use that for Group emails..
or change ISP, but that is a bit drastic when NTL are by far the best
providers of Broadband in my area.

Ken Ward.


 
  #22
Ken Ward
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"know code" <know_code@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:4522fa61$0$19911$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl...

> Well, here's an example of how bad spam can get. This e-mail address I
> use here on usenet (and only on usenet) was set up only 9-10 months ago.
> To date, I have now received 3100+ spam e-mails to it (which I filter off
> to a separate folder)!! That is, on average, over 10 spam e-mails per
> day, and that is starting with a brand new e-mail account!!
>
> Now that the address is on the spammers lists, I dread to think what that
> figure will be in the next 9-10 months! Not that it really concerns me
> because I usually just take a quick look to see if anyone on usenet has
> e-mailed me direct and then just mark the entire folder as read without
> reading any of the junk....


Wouldn't it be easier to "Spam Trap" your email address. I have and don't
get any.. they are only machines that read them after all.

Ken Ward.


 
  #23
mikeFNB
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

im puzzled as to why a new usenet ad should get any spam at all
mine doesn't
are you not munging your email ad on here then?

spambots and harvesters will love you if you if it is real

mike


"know code" <know_code@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
news:45237c32$0$73837$dbd41001@news.wanadoo.nl...
> mikeFNB wrote:
>> only 10 per day
>> blimey when you get to +100 start to moan.

>
> At the moment, only 10 per day averaged over 9-10 months from a brand new
> e-mail account! Remember, this account has *only* ever been used for
> usenet postings and *nothing* else and in 9-10 months has managed to
> attract 3100+ spam messages! Looking at the history, for the first few
> months I got very little spam to this account (obviously not on the
> spammers lists as it was a brand new account) but now I'm getting about 35
> spam messages per day. If this account had been used to sign up for
> various dubious websites, then I could understand the amount of spam, but
> for a usenet only address????
>
>> run mailwasher simple and automatic

>
> I used to use mailwasher when I used Windows, but now that I use linux,
> they don't do a linux version!! Then again, if I was really bothered I'd
> install up spamassassin or something like that....
>
>> i'm like paul
>> throw it all at me
>> i'll choose thanks not my isp

>
> I'm with you on that one. I have *fast* broadband here in .nl (BT could
> learn a thing or two about how to implement fast broadband from the
> Dutch!!) and also no monthly data limit. So, I don't mind receiving the
> spam as it just gets directed to a separate folder anyway and gets dealt
> with accordingly



 
  #24
Roger Muggleton
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

mikeFNB <mikefnb@moc.dlrowltn> wrote:

> only 10 per day
> blimey when you get to +100 start to moan.


I've been using this gmail address on usenet for the last couple of
years or so, and I rarely get any spam. Conversely the address which I
started using in 1995 gets thousands a month, although most of these are
removed before I fetch my mail.

Gmail has SMTP and POP3 servers, with authentication, so you can collect
mail with almost any client (Mac Mail 2.1.1 here ATM).

Despammed.com was pretty good too, possibly because it didn't forward
any mail a good deal of the time!

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Roger.
 
  #25
Ian Jackson
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

In message <_NSUg.125$Or2.29@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, Ken Ward
<ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> writes
>
>"know code" <know_code@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
>news:4522fa61$0$19911$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl. ..
>
>> Well, here's an example of how bad spam can get. This e-mail address I
>> use here on usenet (and only on usenet) was set up only 9-10 months ago.
>> To date, I have now received 3100+ spam e-mails to it (which I filter off
>> to a separate folder)!! That is, on average, over 10 spam e-mails per
>> day, and that is starting with a brand new e-mail account!!
>>
>> Now that the address is on the spammers lists, I dread to think what that
>> figure will be in the next 9-10 months! Not that it really concerns me
>> because I usually just take a quick look to see if anyone on usenet has
>> e-mailed me direct and then just mark the entire folder as read without
>> reading any of the junk....

>
>Wouldn't it be easier to "Spam Trap" your email address. I have and don't
>get any.. they are only machines that read them after all.
>
>Ken Ward.
>
>

As nobody ever e-mails me, I actually like the occasional bit of spam
which gets through my spam trap,
Ian.
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  #26
Jim GM4DHJ
 
Default Re: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


> As nobody ever e-mails me, I actually like the occasional bit of spam
> which gets through my spam trap,
> Ian.
> --
>

yes... I also miss the 150 emails that I used to get every time I switched
on ........


 
  #27
Trevor Day
 
Default OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

In message <_NSUg.125$Or2.29@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, Ken Ward
<ken.g1itv@MTLworld.com> writes
>
>"know code" <know_code@wanadoo.nl> wrote in message
>news:4522fa61$0$19911$dbd49001@news.wanadoo.nl. ..
>
>> Well, here's an example of how bad spam can get. This e-mail address I
>> use here on usenet (and only on usenet) was set up only 9-10 months ago.
>> To date, I have now received 3100+ spam e-mails to it (which I filter off
>> to a separate folder)!! That is, on average, over 10 spam e-mails per
>> day, and that is starting with a brand new e-mail account!!
>>
>> Now that the address is on the spammers lists, I dread to think what that
>> figure will be in the next 9-10 months! Not that it really concerns me
>> because I usually just take a quick look to see if anyone on usenet has
>> e-mailed me direct and then just mark the entire folder as read without
>> reading any of the junk....

>
>Wouldn't it be easier to "Spam Trap" your email address. I have and don't
>get any.. they are only machines that read them after all.


My current problem is spamming using my domain name; ie.
anything @mydomain.com I know I could through my ISP's control panel to
only allow specified addresses to pass emails through to me but part of
the 'attraction' of my own domain is the ability to receive emails in
the format above. Currently I get all the bounced mail from whoever has
hijacked my domain.

I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a way to
tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1 Pro with
Firewall and PestPatrol.

Any useful :-) suggestions welcomed

Trev

--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org
 
  #28
Cheemag
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:15:13 GMT, Trevor Day
<Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:

>I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a way to
>tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1 Pro with
>Firewall and PestPatrol.


It isn't coming from you. The spammers are using your open domain
address as a return address so that you get the bounces rather than them.

It's very common.

--

73, Jim
G4RGA
 
  #29
Trevor Day
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

In message <lblfi251unkin1tfr2llv9bm00vb41h9j1@4ax.com>, Cheemag
<cheemag2006@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:15:13 GMT, Trevor Day
><Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a way to
>>tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1 Pro with
>>Firewall and PestPatrol.

>
> It isn't coming from you. The spammers are using your open domain
>address as a return address so that you get the bounces rather than them.
>
> It's very common.
>

I guessed as much Jim, is there anything I can do about it or do I just
have to hope they eventually get fed up!

Trev
--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org
 
  #30
Cheemag
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:01:11 GMT, Trevor Day
<Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:

>In message <lblfi251unkin1tfr2llv9bm00vb41h9j1@4ax.com>, Cheemag
><cheemag2006@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:15:13 GMT, Trevor Day
>><Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a way to
>>>tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1 Pro with
>>>Firewall and PestPatrol.

>>
>> It isn't coming from you. The spammers are using your open domain
>>address as a return address so that you get the bounces rather than them.
>>
>> It's very common.
>>

>I guessed as much Jim, is there anything I can do about it or do I just
>have to hope they eventually get fed up!


No, nothing. It comes and goes, but can go on for years.

--

Cheemag.
 
  #31
Trevor Day
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

In message <o01gi25tm4u9htdd43i1jtbub5quf05550@4ax.com>, Cheemag
<cheemag2006@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>>

>>I guessed as much Jim, is there anything I can do about it or do I just
>>have to hope they eventually get fed up!

>
>No, nothing. It comes and goes, but can go on for years.
>

Oh well... Thanks anyway

Trev
--
Trevor Day
UKSMG #217
www.uksmg.org
 
  #32
Martin Crossley
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey

Cheemag wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 18:01:11 GMT, Trevor Day
> <Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:
>
>> In message <lblfi251unkin1tfr2llv9bm00vb41h9j1@4ax.com>, Cheemag
>> <cheemag2006@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:15:13 GMT, Trevor Day
>>> <Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a
>>>> way to tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1
>>>> Pro with Firewall and PestPatrol.
>>>
>>> It isn't coming from you. The spammers are using your open domain
>>> address as a return address so that you get the bounces rather than
>>> them.
>>>
>>> It's very common.
>>>

>> I guessed as much Jim, is there anything I can do about it or do I
>> just have to hope they eventually get fed up!

>
> No, nothing. It comes and goes, but can go on for years.


It's been going on here for nearly a year now.
May they all be given malaria by their pets' fleas!
Martin.


 
  #33
DieSea
 
Default Re: OT: Attention PROMABOSS Paul Wey


"Cheemag" <cheemag2006@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lblfi251unkin1tfr2llv9bm00vb41h9j1@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 07 Oct 2006 08:15:13 GMT, Trevor Day
> <Trev@secornwall.removethis.com> wrote:
>
>>I don't think the original spam is emanating from me (is there a way to
>>tell?) and I am reasonably well protected with both AVG7.1 Pro with
>>Firewall and PestPatrol.

>
> It isn't coming from you. The spammers are using your open domain
> address as a return address so that you get the bounces rather than them.
>
> It's very common.
>
> --
>
> 73, Jim
> G4RGA


True

Its happening with one of my yahoo Addresses as well

As for Gmail

No1 son insisted I had a gmail account , it got a fairly oddball address

Within 3 days I was getting spam

Its never been used except for the No1 son

DieSea