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Re: Did Malcolm Ogilvie copy Andre Konters book on grebes? see for yourself.
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:45:25 +0100, Jim Webster <icebaby@foobaa.com>
wrote: >>In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney >><paulroo...@aol.com> writes >> >> >>>On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk> >>>wrote: >> >>>>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but >>>>please note that you are replying to a forged message. >> >> >>>You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look >>>good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though, >>>particularly as it took you so long to own up. >> >> >> >>Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to >>criticise others. >> >>The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the >>book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't >>advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the >>name of the publisher. You then chose to introduce the subject of >>books >>on grebes to this newsgroup by suggesting the other book as a good >>Christmas present without mentioning mine. This deliberate, even >>shabby, >>action of yours was perhaps not unconnected with the fact that, having >>a >>little while ago accidentally discovered, via a crosspost, the >>newsgroup >>in which I had posted my piece, you set about being deliberately >>disruptive, flooding it with nearly 700 messages in just four weeks, >>for >>which behaviour you have been rightly criticised by myself and many >>other regulars of that newsgroup. >> >> >>BTW, that's twice you've called me an academic. Why? It is my >>understanding that academics work in universities. I don't and never >>have. >> >> >>-- >>Malcolm >> >> >>On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 11:22:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk> >>wrote: >> >> >> >>>In article <6bsbuusm6dbrucb08dsh9purbq2l7ca...@4ax.com>, Paul Rooney >>><paulroo...@aol.com> writes >>>>On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 09:01:13 +0000, Malcolm <M...@indaal.demon.co.uk> >>>>wrote: >> >> >>>>>Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, but >>>>>please note that you are replying to a forged message. >> >> >>>>You're not the first academic to propagate an untruth in order to look >>>>good, and I doubt you'll be the last. A bit shabby though, >>>>particularly as it took you so long to own up. >> >> >>>Hmm, I think you should look to your own behaviour before rushing to >>>criticise others. >> >> >>>The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the >>>book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup where I wasn't >>>advertising the book and didn't even give the title of the book or the >>>name of the publisher. >> >> >> >>You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the >>subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been >>covered very thoroughly in Konter's book. >>The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace >>to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving >>the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn >>attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late. >>You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant >>matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on >>you. >> >>-- >>Paul Rooney >> >> > > > > > > > >Jim Webster,Barrow-in-Furness farmer,troll & president of Cumbria CLA. >would you let your children near this person? see >http://tinyurl.com/kgbnf >now in the sixth year of raving about Pat Gardiner and >still no result. > >Need to complain about me bringing Country Land and Business Association >into disrepute? Why not contact us at >Country Land and Business Association > >16 Belgrave Square >London >SW1X 8PQ > >Telephone: +44 (0)20 7235 0511 >Fax: +44 (0)20 7235 4696 >E-mail: mail@cla.org.uk > > >David Fursdon – President > > >Phone: 020 7235 0511 >FAX: 020 7235 4696 >Email david.fursdon@cla.org.uk > > >Henry Aubrey-Fletcher – Deputy President > > >Phone: 020 7235 0511 >FAX: 020 7235 4696 >Email henry.aubrey-fletcher@cla.org.uk > > >William Worsley – Vice President > > >Phone: 020 7235 0511 >FAX: 020 7235 4696 >Email william.worsley@cla.org.uk > > >You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre >Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'. >My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World', >and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers >is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes. > >Malcolm Ogilivie. Jim Webster,Barrow-in-Furness farmer,troll & president of Cumbria CLA. would you let your children near this person? see http://tinyurl.com/kgbnf now in the sixth year of raving about Pat Gardiner and still no result. Need to complain about me bringing Country Land and Business Association into disrepute? Why not contact us at Country Land and Business Association 16 Belgrave Square London SW1X 8PQ Telephone: +44 (0)20 7235 0511 Fax: +44 (0)20 7235 4696 E-mail: mail@cla.org.uk David Fursdon – President Phone: 020 7235 0511 FAX: 020 7235 4696 Email david.fursdon@cla.org.uk Henry Aubrey-Fletcher – Deputy President Phone: 020 7235 0511 FAX: 020 7235 4696 Email henry.aubrey-fletcher@cla.org.uk William Worsley – Vice President Phone: 020 7235 0511 FAX: 020 7235 4696 Email william.worsley@cla.org.uk You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'. My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World', and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes. Malcolm Ogilivie. |
