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On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:38:58 +0100, ©¿© <icecool@isis232.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:30:50 +0100, ©¿© <icecool@isis232.com> wrote:
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>>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:28:41 +0100, ©¿© <icecool@isis232.com> wrote:
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>>>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:12:43 +0100, ©¿© <icecool@isis232.com> wrote:
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>>>>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:52:31 +0100, Paul {Hamilton Rooney}
>>>><craig@oilfield.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:41:24 +0100, "Jim Webster"
>>>>><Jim@websterpagespabank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig@oilfield.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:hr7bf2pvi9e7cg92n0pbcgrcq1ckd6qahf@4ax. com...
>>>>>>> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:58:44 +0100, "Jim Webster"
>>>>>>> <Jim@websterpagespabank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig@oilfield.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >news:i72bf25qam02ku192bpdib8h2dtk5eulud@4ax.com.. .
>>>>>>> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:18:16 +0100, "Jim Webster"
>>>>>>> >> <Jim@websterpagespabank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig@oilfield.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> >news:g60bf2pde3e1ae9pm48cterco66a3ocb95@4ax.com.. .
>>>>>>> >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:11:31 +0100, "Jim Webster"
>>>>>>> >> >> <Jim@websterpagespabank.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >"Paul {Hamilton Rooney}" <craig@oilfield.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> >> >> >news:srvaf2hi7jl4bbtdjm2k9akq9evrp0khl0@4ax.com.. .
>>>>>>> >> >> >> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 12:55:55 +0100, Malcolm
>>>>>>> >> ><Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk>
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >> A simple answer to a straight question would suffice: did you
>>>>>>> >> >acknowledge
>>>>>>> >> >> >> Konter's work in your book?
>>>>>>> >> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >> >so you haven't actually read both books?
>>>>>>> >> >>
>>>>>>> >> >> I haven't read either, Jim. Grebes aren't my thing. >
>>>>>>> >> >
>>>>>>> >> >so without reading either book you accuse someone of copying?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> So without reading any messages you accuse someone of accusing someone
>>>>>>of
>>>>>>> >> copying?
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Noted - no response.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >so you haven't read his book then, that's all I wanted to establish.
>>>>>>> >I now know what value to put on your opinion of the issue
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What issue? As far as I can tell the only issue under discussion is
>>>>>>> Malcolm's claim to have written the first ever book on grebes. Did you
>>>>>>have
>>>>>>> some other issue in mind?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>well you seem to be accusing him of copying someone elses book.
>>>>>
>>>>>Bollocks, Jim. Try reading before jumping in.
>>>>>
>>>>>>If not then fair enough, but it does seem a strange accusation to make if
>>>>>>you haven't read both books.
>>>>>>Also he might be correct, his may be the first attempt to write a definitive
>>>>>>book on grebes.
>>>>>
>>>>>No. That was André Konter's book, which was sitting on Malcolm's shelf
>>>>>while he typed his claim (-:
>>>
>>>More interesting quotes on Ogilvies false claim...
>>>
>>> 8888888888888888888888888
>>>
>>>> You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>>>> Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>>>> My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>>>> and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>>>> is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Malcolm
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>>>Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. A
>>>description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history,
>>>ecology
>>>and behaviour.
>>>
>>>Grebes of the World
>>>Malcolm Ogilvie
>>>The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>>>evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed
>>>by
>>>accounts of each of the 22 species
>>>
>>>
>>>Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>>>
>>>Rob
>>>
>>>
>>> 8888888888888888888888888888888888888
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>>To which Ogilvie replied presently
>>
>>"Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter, "
>>
>>LOL
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>
>And his claim for a first again
>
>Tues, Nov 26 2002 3:08 pm
>"Then, today, a parcel arrives and there are copies of the finished
>book
>in its dust jacket to handle and admire. And I can appreciate the two
>dozen colour plates together for the first time and realise that it
>was
>worthwhile writing the text to accompany them and so help to produce
>the
>first book ever devoted to this particular group of birds. "
>
>