Malcolm

On Sat, 28 Jun 2003 15:29:29 +0100, Derek Moody
<derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <bdk4dk$th4v4$1@ID-190488.news.dfncis.de>, Derek
><URL:mailto:dereknash@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>
>> "Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message news:ant2812171cbBxcK@half-ba
>> ked-idea.co.uk...
>> > In article <2550e7c3bd54445e43740fb99c07e3fd@free.teranews.co m>, Malcolm
>> > <URL:mailto:Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote:
>
>> > > entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more
>> > > information.
>> >
>> > This group has not requested more information.
>
>> Against Fox Hunting with Hounds
>>
>> Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary.
>
>Reposting the document in it's entirety less than 24 hours after
>the previous posting doesn't make any of it true.
>
>Cheerio,

Which part do you find hard dealing with you pervert michael?

There are some amongst us who would be happy to re-educate you, and we
don't even need to resort to threats of violence, come along to the
next meeting. Meanwhile remember this, playing with men in toilets is
a health hazard, as well as being highly illegal.


>Very good article. I do hope you don't mind me posting it in it's
>entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more
>information.
>
>
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>On 28 Jun 2003 06:58:20 GMT, amacmil304@aol.com (AMacmil304) wrote:
>
>This article together with many others is in the a book entitled "The
>Rich at
>Play" and published by:
>
>Revolutions Per Minute
>BCM Box 3328
>London
>WC1N 3XX
>
>
>Against Fox Hunting with Hounds
>
>Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. It has little effect
>on
>reducing fox numbers. In the main, it is practiced by well-heeled
>snobs who are
>in it for the social stature of mixing with who they see as the
>"right" people.
> At the hint being portrayed as such, they trot out some hapless
>individual to
>pour out a sob story about how his livelihood will be devastated and
>rural life
>destroyed if the "sport" is banned. This is scare-mongering nonsense.
>Only a
>tiny minority of horses are involved in hunts. In Lothian, Central
>Scotland,
>where the local hunt was discontinued ten years ago, the number of
>horses has
>increased substantially because of leisure activities thus requiring
>more
>stables with associated facilities and services, than at any time
>previously.
>
>Foxes die a horrible death when caught by hounds. They are caught from
>behind
>by the leading hounds and ripped to pieces whilst still alive. The lie
>put
>forth by hunters that foxes are killed instantly by a quick bite to
>the back of
>the neck was recently exposed by post mortems at Bristol University
>for
>evidence presented to the Burns Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs. These
>examinations revealed profound trauma by repeated dog bite, little
>tissue
>damage in the head, neck and shoulder region but pronounced damage to
>the
>ribcage and the thoracic organs, with damage to the abdomen,
>hindquarters or
>chest probably being the cause of death. Foxes that attempt to run to
>ground
>often find their lair has been intentionally blocked and those that
>manage to
>escape underground are frequently dug out and beaten to death with a
>spade,
>before their "brush" is cut off in a traditional form of weird
>ceremony.
>
>But foxes are not the only victims of this barbaric activity. Hounds
>that
>reach middle age and those that are disinclined to follow the scent
>are
>destroyed and there are numerous incidents where horses and hounds are
>injured
>and killed during the chase. It has also been known for hounds to
>mount a
>frenzied attack on domestic pets. A graphic insight into the
>barbarism and
>brutality of hunting with dogs is shown in the League Against Cruel
>Sports
>video entitled "Chaos In the Countryside" and available by contacting
>them on
>020 7403 6155. The video is free but a donation to cover production
>costs and
>postage and packing is appreciated.
>
>Farmers do not suffer greatly from fox attack and many are among those
>who
>oppose hunting with dogs. A 1996 MAFF publication stated that only
>0.4 % of
>lambs die from accidents, dog attacks and all other animal predation.
>This
>extremely small number includes those killed by foxes. Indeed, it has
>been said
>on many occasions that shepherds will blame the fox for killing a lamb
>when
>what has actually happened is that the fox has scavenged from one that
>was
>already dead. Also, with regard to the favourite accusation of foxes
>killing
>chickens - whoever heard of a fox having a key to open a secure
>poultry pen?
>
>The fox is a friend to the farmer as a predator of rats and rabbits
>and assists
>in cleaning up fields by eating the afterbirth during lambing. He is
>also a
>predator of deer fawns that begs the question of why there is a need
>to kill
>foxes when it is thought by some that deer populations are too high.
>But
>that's another story.
>
>Hunting with dogs is neither an efficient or necessary method of
>controlling
>foxes. In fact in some areas there is such a dearth of foxes it is
>thought
>that that some hunts are surreptitiously breeding their own and
>feeding wild
>cubs. In June 2000 secret filming by the International Fund for
>Animal Welfare
>showed an employee of the Beaufort Hunt actually feeding fox cubs.
>
>Various polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of the British
>electorate are firmly behind banning fox hunting and two thirds of our
>MPs have
>already voted for a ban. But probably the most interesting revelation
>of all
>was the 1997 Gallop poll for the Daily Telegraph that showed whilst
>84% of
>urban dwellers disapproved of fox hunting, 77% of rural people also
>disapproved. So this is not a town versus country issue as the
>Countryside
>Alliance would have us believe; it is a nationwide revulsion against
>those who
>seek their pleasure from animal cruelty.
>
>On February 13th 2002, the Scottish Parliament voted by a massive
>majority to
>ban hunting with dogs. Tireless campaigners such as Advocates for
>Animals;
>RSPCA; The League Against Cruel Sports; Animal Aid; IFAW; the National
>Anti-Hunt Campaign have all played a vital role in bringing about this
>legislation by creating public awareness of the obscenity of fox
>hunting.
>
>The Scottish success will surely spur on these campaigners to maintain
>the
>momentum towards a total ban throughout the UK. Nothing succeeds like
>success!
>
>But small little-known groups of hunt saboteurs and campaigners are
>also doing
>their bit to rid us of fox hunting. An example of one of these is the
>Surrey
>Anti-hunt Campaign that managed to reduce the number of local inns
>that hosted
>hunt meets from nineteen to four. This amazing success was achieved by
>peaceful
>demonstration and by encouraging people to write non-abusive letters
>to the
>landlords. Recently, a large traditional hunt ball had to be
>cancelled
>because a suitable venue could not be found. More power to their
>elbow!
>
>The present UK government has committed itself to banning hunting with
>hounds,
>so it is up to those of us who oppose fox hunting to lobby our
>national and
>local government representatives to make sure they keep their word.
>
>Ironically, it's the hunters who are now on the run!
>
>Let's keep up the pressure and go for the kill.
>
>
>
>
>Angus Macmillan
>Roots-of-Blood Campaign
>www.roots-of-blood.org.uk
>www.killhunting.org.uk
>
>" First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you,
>then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi.

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So, you dont like reasoned,
well thought out, civil debate?

I understand.

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