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Very good article. I do hope you don't mind me posting it in it's
entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more information. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On 28 Jun 2003 06:58:20 GMT, amacmil304@aol.com (AMacmil304) wrote: This article together with many others is in the a book entitled "The Rich at Play" and published by: Revolutions Per Minute BCM Box 3328 London WC1N 3XX Against Fox Hunting with Hounds Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. It has little effect on reducing fox numbers. In the main, it is practiced by well-heeled snobs who are in it for the social stature of mixing with who they see as the "right" people. At the hint being portrayed as such, they trot out some hapless individual to pour out a sob story about how his livelihood will be devastated and rural life destroyed if the "sport" is banned. This is scare-mongering nonsense. Only a tiny minority of horses are involved in hunts. In Lothian, Central Scotland, where the local hunt was discontinued ten years ago, the number of horses has increased substantially because of leisure activities thus requiring more stables with associated facilities and services, than at any time previously. Foxes die a horrible death when caught by hounds. They are caught from behind by the leading hounds and ripped to pieces whilst still alive. The lie put forth by hunters that foxes are killed instantly by a quick bite to the back of the neck was recently exposed by post mortems at Bristol University for evidence presented to the Burns Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs. These examinations revealed profound trauma by repeated dog bite, little tissue damage in the head, neck and shoulder region but pronounced damage to the ribcage and the thoracic organs, with damage to the abdomen, hindquarters or chest probably being the cause of death. Foxes that attempt to run to ground often find their lair has been intentionally blocked and those that manage to escape underground are frequently dug out and beaten to death with a spade, before their "brush" is cut off in a traditional form of weird ceremony. But foxes are not the only victims of this barbaric activity. Hounds that reach middle age and those that are disinclined to follow the scent are destroyed and there are numerous incidents where horses and hounds are injured and killed during the chase. It has also been known for hounds to mount a frenzied attack on domestic pets. A graphic insight into the barbarism and brutality of hunting with dogs is shown in the League Against Cruel Sports video entitled "Chaos In the Countryside" and available by contacting them on 020 7403 6155. The video is free but a donation to cover production costs and postage and packing is appreciated. Farmers do not suffer greatly from fox attack and many are among those who oppose hunting with dogs. A 1996 MAFF publication stated that only 0.4 % of lambs die from accidents, dog attacks and all other animal predation. This extremely small number includes those killed by foxes. Indeed, it has been said on many occasions that shepherds will blame the fox for killing a lamb when what has actually happened is that the fox has scavenged from one that was already dead. Also, with regard to the favourite accusation of foxes killing chickens - whoever heard of a fox having a key to open a secure poultry pen? The fox is a friend to the farmer as a predator of rats and rabbits and assists in cleaning up fields by eating the afterbirth during lambing. He is also a predator of deer fawns that begs the question of why there is a need to kill foxes when it is thought by some that deer populations are too high. But that's another story. Hunting with dogs is neither an efficient or necessary method of controlling foxes. In fact in some areas there is such a dearth of foxes it is thought that that some hunts are surreptitiously breeding their own and feeding wild cubs. In June 2000 secret filming by the International Fund for Animal Welfare showed an employee of the Beaufort Hunt actually feeding fox cubs. Various polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of the British electorate are firmly behind banning fox hunting and two thirds of our MPs have already voted for a ban. But probably the most interesting revelation of all was the 1997 Gallop poll for the Daily Telegraph that showed whilst 84% of urban dwellers disapproved of fox hunting, 77% of rural people also disapproved. So this is not a town versus country issue as the Countryside Alliance would have us believe; it is a nationwide revulsion against those who seek their pleasure from animal cruelty. On February 13th 2002, the Scottish Parliament voted by a massive majority to ban hunting with dogs. Tireless campaigners such as Advocates for Animals; RSPCA; The League Against Cruel Sports; Animal Aid; IFAW; the National Anti-Hunt Campaign have all played a vital role in bringing about this legislation by creating public awareness of the obscenity of fox hunting. The Scottish success will surely spur on these campaigners to maintain the momentum towards a total ban throughout the UK. Nothing succeeds like success! But small little-known groups of hunt saboteurs and campaigners are also doing their bit to rid us of fox hunting. An example of one of these is the Surrey Anti-hunt Campaign that managed to reduce the number of local inns that hosted hunt meets from nineteen to four. This amazing success was achieved by peaceful demonstration and by encouraging people to write non-abusive letters to the landlords. Recently, a large traditional hunt ball had to be cancelled because a suitable venue could not be found. More power to their elbow! The present UK government has committed itself to banning hunting with hounds, so it is up to those of us who oppose fox hunting to lobby our national and local government representatives to make sure they keep their word. Ironically, it's the hunters who are now on the run! Let's keep up the pressure and go for the kill. Angus Macmillan Roots-of-Blood Campaign www.roots-of-blood.org.uk www.killhunting.org.uk " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi. -- So, you dont like reasoned, well thought out, civil debate? I understand. /´¯/) /¯../ /..../ /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') \.................'...../ ''...\.......... _.·´ \..............( \.............\.. |
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"Malcolm" <Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote in message news:2550e7c3bd54445e43740fb99c07e3fd@free.teranew s.com... > Very good article. I do hope you don't mind me posting it in it's > entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more > information. > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------- > On 28 Jun 2003 06:58:20 GMT, amacmil304@aol.com (AMacmil304) wrote: > > This article together with many others is in the a book entitled "The > Rich at > Play" and published by: > > Revolutions Per Minute > BCM Box 3328 > London > WC1N 3XX > > > Against Fox Hunting with Hounds > > Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. It has little effect > on > reducing fox numbers. In the main, it is practiced by well-heeled > snobs who are > in it for the social stature of mixing with who they see as the > "right" people. > At the hint being portrayed as such, they trot out some hapless > individual to > pour out a sob story about how his livelihood will be devastated and > rural life > destroyed if the "sport" is banned. This is scare-mongering nonsense. > Only a > tiny minority of horses are involved in hunts. In Lothian, Central > Scotland, > where the local hunt was discontinued ten years ago, the number of > horses has > increased substantially because of leisure activities thus requiring > more > stables with associated facilities and services, than at any time > previously. > > Foxes die a horrible death when caught by hounds. They are caught from > behind > by the leading hounds and ripped to pieces whilst still alive. The lie > put > forth by hunters that foxes are killed instantly by a quick bite to > the back of > the neck was recently exposed by post mortems at Bristol University > for > evidence presented to the Burns Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs. These > examinations revealed profound trauma by repeated dog bite, little > tissue > damage in the head, neck and shoulder region but pronounced damage to > the > ribcage and the thoracic organs, with damage to the abdomen, > hindquarters or > chest probably being the cause of death. Foxes that attempt to run to > ground > often find their lair has been intentionally blocked and those that > manage to > escape underground are frequently dug out and beaten to death with a > spade, > before their "brush" is cut off in a traditional form of weird > ceremony. > > But foxes are not the only victims of this barbaric activity. Hounds > that > reach middle age and those that are disinclined to follow the scent > are > destroyed and there are numerous incidents where horses and hounds are > injured > and killed during the chase. It has also been known for hounds to > mount a > frenzied attack on domestic pets. A graphic insight into the > barbarism and > brutality of hunting with dogs is shown in the League Against Cruel > Sports > video entitled "Chaos In the Countryside" and available by contacting > them on > 020 7403 6155. The video is free but a donation to cover production > costs and > postage and packing is appreciated. > > Farmers do not suffer greatly from fox attack and many are among those > who > oppose hunting with dogs. A 1996 MAFF publication stated that only > 0.4 % of > lambs die from accidents, dog attacks and all other animal predation. > This > extremely small number includes those killed by foxes. Indeed, it has > been said > on many occasions that shepherds will blame the fox for killing a lamb > when > what has actually happened is that the fox has scavenged from one that > was > already dead. Also, with regard to the favourite accusation of foxes > killing > chickens - whoever heard of a fox having a key to open a secure > poultry pen? > > The fox is a friend to the farmer as a predator of rats and rabbits > and assists > in cleaning up fields by eating the afterbirth during lambing. He is > also a > predator of deer fawns that begs the question of why there is a need > to kill > foxes when it is thought by some that deer populations are too high. > But > that's another story. > > Hunting with dogs is neither an efficient or necessary method of > controlling > foxes. In fact in some areas there is such a dearth of foxes it is > thought > that that some hunts are surreptitiously breeding their own and > feeding wild > cubs. In June 2000 secret filming by the International Fund for > Animal Welfare > showed an employee of the Beaufort Hunt actually feeding fox cubs. > > Various polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of the British > electorate are firmly behind banning fox hunting and two thirds of our > MPs have > already voted for a ban. But probably the most interesting revelation > of all > was the 1997 Gallop poll for the Daily Telegraph that showed whilst > 84% of > urban dwellers disapproved of fox hunting, 77% of rural people also > disapproved. So this is not a town versus country issue as the > Countryside > Alliance would have us believe; it is a nationwide revulsion against > those who > seek their pleasure from animal cruelty. > > On February 13th 2002, the Scottish Parliament voted by a massive > majority to > ban hunting with dogs. Tireless campaigners such as Advocates for > Animals; > RSPCA; The League Against Cruel Sports; Animal Aid; IFAW; the National > Anti-Hunt Campaign have all played a vital role in bringing about this > legislation by creating public awareness of the obscenity of fox > hunting. > > The Scottish success will surely spur on these campaigners to maintain > the > momentum towards a total ban throughout the UK. Nothing succeeds like > success! > > But small little-known groups of hunt saboteurs and campaigners are > also doing > their bit to rid us of fox hunting. An example of one of these is the > Surrey > Anti-hunt Campaign that managed to reduce the number of local inns > that hosted > hunt meets from nineteen to four. This amazing success was achieved by > peaceful > demonstration and by encouraging people to write non-abusive letters > to the > landlords. Recently, a large traditional hunt ball had to be > cancelled > because a suitable venue could not be found. More power to their > elbow! > > The present UK government has committed itself to banning hunting with > hounds, > so it is up to those of us who oppose fox hunting to lobby our > national and > local government representatives to make sure they keep their word. > > Ironically, it's the hunters who are now on the run! > > Let's keep up the pressure and go for the kill. > > > > > Angus Macmillan > Roots-of-Blood Campaign > www.roots-of-blood.org.uk > www.killhunting.org.uk > > " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, > then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi. > > > > -- > It is now pretty certain that 'Foxhunting', 'Hunting with Hounds', call it what you like, *will* be made illegal within the UK. The times of heated debate and opinions are almost over - Michael you have lost. It matters little what you think, you and your fellow pervs and cottage queens will *have* to abide by the law. Of course there will always be the hard core who will ignore legislation and test the issue. Initially you will be fined, no problem for the CAP subsided farmers, but if you persist you *will* end up 'in the nick'. I will now give you the same advice I gave ~~Jonnie~~ a few months ago. When in the prison showers - if you drop the soap, don't even *think* about picking it up! Do not despair Micheal, you can always go out and shoot a few hundred squirrels - perfectly legal. Or if you feel like a little real excitement in your life - may I suggest a little 'midnight cubbing'? All you need is a spade and torch. Dig em up, bash out their brains with the spade, "instant delight". Not legal, but who cares. As you well know, Rural Devon is not policed! You *can* still enjoy your life to the full Michael, just forget about the foxhunting. Ray > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you dont like reasoned, > well thought out, civil debate? > > I understand. > > /´¯/) > /¯../ > /..../ > /´¯/'...'/´¯¯`·¸ > /'/.../..../......./¨¯\ > ('(...´...´.... ¯~/'...') > \.................'...../ > ''...\.......... _.·´ > \..............( > \.............\.. |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message news:ant2812171cbBxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk... > In article <2550e7c3bd54445e43740fb99c07e3fd@free.teranews.co m>, Malcolm > <URL:mailto:Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote: > > Very good article. I do hope you don't mind me posting it in it's > > I mind. > Who cares? > > entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more > > information. > > This group has not requested more information. > Against Fox Hunting with Hounds Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. It has little effect on reducing fox numbers. In the main, it is practiced by well-heeled snobs who are in it for the social stature of mixing with who they see as the "right" people. At the hint being portrayed as such, they trot out some hapless individual to pour out a sob story about how his livelihood will be devastated and rural life destroyed if the "sport" is banned. This is scare-mongering nonsense. Only a tiny minority of horses are involved in hunts. In Lothian, Central Scotland, where the local hunt was discontinued ten years ago, the number of horses has increased substantially because of leisure activities thus requiring more stables with associated facilities and services, than at any time previously. Foxes die a horrible death when caught by hounds. They are caught from behind by the leading hounds and ripped to pieces whilst still alive. The lie put forth by hunters that foxes are killed instantly by a quick bite to the back of the neck was recently exposed by post mortems at Bristol University for evidence presented to the Burns Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs. These examinations revealed profound trauma by repeated dog bite, little tissue damage in the head, neck and shoulder region but pronounced damage to the ribcage and the thoracic organs, with damage to the abdomen, hindquarters or chest probably being the cause of death. Foxes that attempt to run to ground often find their lair has been intentionally blocked and those that manage to escape underground are frequently dug out and beaten to death with a spade, before their "brush" is cut off in a traditional form of weird ceremony. But foxes are not the only victims of this barbaric activity. Hounds that reach middle age and those that are disinclined to follow the scent are destroyed and there are numerous incidents where horses and hounds are injured and killed during the chase. It has also been known for hounds to mount a frenzied attack on domestic pets. A graphic insight into the barbarism and brutality of hunting with dogs is shown in the League Against Cruel Sports video entitled "Chaos In the Countryside" and available by contacting them on 020 7403 6155 The video is free but a donation to cover production costs and postage and packing is appreciated. Farmers do not suffer greatly from fox attack and many are among those who oppose hunting with dogs. A 1996 MAFF publication stated that only 0.4 % of lambs die from accidents, dog attacks and all other animal predation. This extremely small number includes those killed by foxes. Indeed, it has been said on many occasions that shepherds will blame the fox for killing a lamb when what has actually happened is that the fox has scavenged from one that was already dead. Also, with regard to the favourite accusation of foxes killing chickens - whoever heard of a fox having a key to open a secure poultry pen? The fox is a friend to the farmer as a predator of rats and rabbits and assists in cleaning up fields by eating the afterbirth during lambing. He is also a predator of deer fawns that begs the question of why there is a need to kill foxes when it is thought by some that deer populations are too high. But that's another story. Hunting with dogs is neither an efficient or necessary method of controlling foxes. In fact in some areas there is such a dearth of foxes it is thought that that some hunts are surreptitiously breeding their own and feeding wild cubs. In June 2000 secret filming by the International Fund for Animal Welfare showed an employee of the Beaufort Hunt actually feeding fox cubs. Various polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of the British electorate are firmly behind banning fox hunting and two thirds of our MPs have already voted for a ban. But probably the most interesting revelation of all was the 1 997 Gallop poll for the Daily Telegraph that showed whilst 84% of urban dwellers disapproved of fox hunting, 77% of rural people also disapproved. So this is not a town versus country issue as the Countryside Alliance would have us believe; it is a nationwide revulsion against those who seek their pleasure from animal cruelty. On February 13th 2002, the Scottish Parliament voted by a massive majority to ban hunting with dogs. Tireless campaigners such as Advocates for Animals; RSPCA; The League Against Cruel Sports; Animal Aid; IFAW; the National Anti-Hunt Campaign have all played a vital role in bringing about this legislation by creating public awareness of the obscenity of fox hunting. The Scottish success will surely spur on these campaigners to maintain the momentum towards a total ban throughout the UK. Nothing succeeds like success! But small little-known groups of hunt saboteurs and campaigners are also doing their bit to rid us of fox hunting. An example of one of these is the Surrey Anti-hunt Campaign that managed to reduce the number of local inns that hosted hunt meets from nineteen to four. This amazing success was achieved by peaceful demonstration and by encouraging people to write non-abusive letters to the landlords. Recently, a large traditional hunt ball had to be cancelled because a suitable venue could not be found. More power to their elbow! The present UK government has committed itself to banning hunting with hounds, so it is up to those of us who oppose fox hunting to lobby our national and local government representatives to make sure they keep their word. Ironically, it's the hunters who are now on the run! Let's keep up the pressure and go for the kill. Angus Macmillan Roots-of-Blood Campaign www.roots-of-blood.org.uk www.killhunting.org.uk " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi. |
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<URL:mailto:dereknash@btopenworld.com> wrote: > > "Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message news:ant2812171cbBxcK@half-ba > ked-idea.co.uk... > > In article <2550e7c3bd54445e43740fb99c07e3fd@free.teranews.co m>, Malcolm > > <URL:mailto:Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote: > > > entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more > > > information. > > > > This group has not requested more information. > Against Fox Hunting with Hounds > > Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. Reposting the document in it's entirety less than 24 hours after the previous posting doesn't make any of it true. Cheerio, -- >> derek@farm-direct.co.uk >> http://www.farm-direct.co.uk/ |
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"Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message news:ant281429868BxcK@half-baked-idea.co.uk... > In article <bdk4dk$th4v4$1@ID-190488.news.dfncis.de>, Derek > <URL:mailto:dereknash@btopenworld.com> wrote: > > > > "Derek Moody" <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote in message news:ant2812171cbBxcK@half-ba > > ked-idea.co.uk... > > > In article <2550e7c3bd54445e43740fb99c07e3fd@free.teranews.co m>, Malcolm > > > <URL:mailto:Malcolm@malcsplace.com> wrote: > > > > > entirety, and to interested groups that have requested more > > > > information. > > > > > > This group has not requested more information. > > > Against Fox Hunting with Hounds > > > > Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. > > Reposting the document in it's entirety less than 24 hours after > the previous posting doesn't make any of it true. > Which document? This one (below)? Fox-hunting with hounds is cruel and unnecessary. It has little effect on reducing fox numbers. In the main, it is practiced by well-heeled snobs who are in it for the social stature of mixing with who they see as the "right" people. At the hint being portrayed as such, they trot out some hapless individual to pour out a sob story about how his livelihood will be devastated and rural life destroyed if the "sport" is banned. This is scare-mongering nonsense. Only a tiny minority of horses are involved in hunts. In Lothian, Central Scotland, where the local hunt was discontinued ten years ago, the number of horses has increased substantially because of leisure activities thus requiring more stables with associated facilities and services, than at any time previously. Foxes die a horrible death when caught by hounds. They are caught from behind by the leading hounds and ripped to pieces whilst still alive. The lie put forth by hunters that foxes are killed instantly by a quick bite to the back of the neck was recently exposed by post mortems at Bristol University for evidence presented to the Burns Inquiry into Hunting with Dogs. These examinations revealed profound trauma by repeated dog bite, little tissue damage in the head, neck and shoulder region but pronounced damage to the ribcage and the thoracic organs, with damage to the abdomen, hindquarters or chest probably being the cause of death. Foxes that attempt to run to ground often find their lair has been intentionally blocked and those that manage to escape underground are frequently dug out and beaten to death with a spade, before their "brush" is cut off in a traditional form of weird ceremony. But foxes are not the only victims of this barbaric activity. Hounds that reach middle age and those that are disinclined to follow the scent are destroyed and there are numerous incidents where horses and hounds are injured and killed during the chase. It has also been known for hounds to mount a frenzied attack on domestic pets. A graphic insight into the barbarism and brutality of hunting with dogs is shown in the League Against Cruel Sports video entitled "Chaos In the Countryside" and available by contacting them on 020 7403 6155 The video is free but a donation to cover production costs and postage and packing is appreciated. Farmers do not suffer greatly from fox attack and many are among those who oppose hunting with dogs. A 1996 MAFF publication stated that only 0.4 % of lambs die from accidents, dog attacks and all other animal predation. This extremely small number includes those killed by foxes. Indeed, it has been said on many occasions that shepherds will blame the fox for killing a lamb when what has actually happened is that the fox has scavenged from one that was already dead. Also, with regard to the favourite accusation of foxes killing chickens - whoever heard of a fox having a key to open a secure poultry pen? The fox is a friend to the farmer as a predator of rats and rabbits and assists in cleaning up fields by eating the afterbirth during lambing. He is also a predator of deer fawns that begs the question of why there is a need to kill foxes when it is thought by some that deer populations are too high. But that's another story. Hunting with dogs is neither an efficient or necessary method of controlling foxes. In fact in some areas there is such a dearth of foxes it is thought that that some hunts are surreptitiously breeding their own and feeding wild cubs. In June 2000 secret filming by the International Fund for Animal Welfare showed an employee of the Beaufort Hunt actually feeding fox cubs. Various polls have shown that an overwhelming majority of the British electorate are firmly behind banning fox hunting and two thirds of our MPs have already voted for a ban. But probably the most interesting revelation of all was the 1 997 Gallop poll for the Daily Telegraph that showed whilst 84% of urban dwellers disapproved of fox hunting, 77% of rural people also disapproved. So this is not a town versus country issue as the Countryside Alliance would have us believe; it is a nationwide revulsion against those who seek their pleasure from animal cruelty. On February 13th 2002, the Scottish Parliament voted by a massive majority to ban hunting with dogs. Tireless campaigners such as Advocates for Animals; RSPCA; The League Against Cruel Sports; Animal Aid; IFAW; the National Anti-Hunt Campaign have all played a vital role in bringing about this legislation by creating public awareness of the obscenity of fox hunting. The Scottish success will surely spur on these campaigners to maintain the momentum towards a total ban throughout the UK. Nothing succeeds like success! But small little-known groups of hunt saboteurs and campaigners are also doing their bit to rid us of fox hunting. An example of one of these is the Surrey Anti-hunt Campaign that managed to reduce the number of local inns that hosted hunt meets from nineteen to four. This amazing success was achieved by peaceful demonstration and by encouraging people to write non-abusive letters to the landlords. Recently, a large traditional hunt ball had to be cancelled because a suitable venue could not be found. More power to their elbow! The present UK government has committed itself to banning hunting with hounds, so it is up to those of us who oppose fox hunting to lobby our national and local government representatives to make sure they keep their word. Ironically, it's the hunters who are now on the run! Let's keep up the pressure and go for the kill. Angus Macmillan Roots-of-Blood Campaign www.roots-of-blood.org.uk www.killhunting.org.uk " First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then they lose". Mahatma Gandhi. |
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Derek Moody <derek@farm-direct.co.uk> wrote: >Reposting the document in it's entirety less than 24 hours after >the previous posting doesn't make any of it true. Whether the article is true or not, it's abusive to flood groups with unwanted discussion. -- Rev. Peter da Silva, ULC. 29.6852N 95.5770W WWFD? "Be conservative in what you generate, and liberal in what you accept" -- Matthew 10:16 (l.trans) |
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-- Rev. Peter da Silva, ULC. 29.6852N 95.5770W WWFD? "Be conservative in what you generate, and liberal in what you accept" -- Matthew 10:16 (l.trans) |