birdman

I recently moved house and when I started to sort out the garden I discovered I
had a very friendly 'Robin' and his family I suspect living somewhere very
close by.

When I mowed the lawn the same Robin would come right up to me and start
pecking out the insects from the lawn.He/she would sit on the fence nearby and
watch me, hopping down and right up to me. I also noticed another Robin would
often be close by.So I assume it was the mate or a grown chick.There seemed to
be a nest close by as they would pick up food and disappear in the direction of
the bushes at the end of the garden.

One morning I noticed the neighbours cat taking a dump in one of my flower
beds. I tried to shoo the critter off but he didin't seem to be bothered by my
protestations. Over the days this cat seemed to be hanging around alot.A few
days ago I heard a hell of a noise from the bushes at the end of the garden and
a passer by said it was the robins squawking at the cat.

I used to put bird seed out on the path for the robins which they took.Now I
notice the robins are no more, they don't come to feed and I havent seen them
for a good few days.

I assume this feline criminal attacked the robins and they are no more.

Now I am not a great fan of cats as they are in my view in the same category as
pidgeons... a nuisance.

How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and hence
protect any future birds!!?

caractacus

birdman wrote:

> I recently moved house and when I started to sort out the garden I discovered I
> had a very friendly 'Robin' and his family I suspect living somewhere very
> close by.
>
> When I mowed the lawn the same Robin would come right up to me and start
> pecking out the insects from the lawn.He/she would sit on the fence nearby and
> watch me, hopping down and right up to me. I also noticed another Robin would
> often be close by.So I assume it was the mate or a grown chick.There seemed to
> be a nest close by as they would pick up food and disappear in the direction of
> the bushes at the end of the garden.
>
> One morning I noticed the neighbours cat taking a dump in one of my flower
> beds. I tried to shoo the critter off but he didin't seem to be bothered by my
> protestations. Over the days this cat seemed to be hanging around alot.A few
> days ago I heard a hell of a noise from the bushes at the end of the garden and
> a passer by said it was the robins squawking at the cat.
>
> I used to put bird seed out on the path for the robins which they took.Now I
> notice the robins are no more, they don't come to feed and I havent seen them
> for a good few days.
>
> I assume this feline criminal attacked the robins and they are no more.
>
> Now I am not a great fan of cats as they are in my view in the same category as
> pidgeons... a nuisance.
>
> How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and hence
> protect any future birds!!?



I agree with you about cats, there are about 7.5 million domestic cats
in the UK and on average they kill 30 wild creatures a year each.
That's a lot of wildlife.

Anyone, how to discourage them? I have heard it told that my local zoo
sells lion dung , which people use for this very purpose. Spread it
around your boundaries and the cats are dismayed. I have not tried it
so I cannot verify if it works but it has got to be worth a go.

Ted Richardson

"birdman" <none@none.com> wrote in message
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:I recently moved house and when I started to sort out the garden I
discovered I
: had a very friendly 'Robin' and his family I suspect living somewhere very
: close by.
:
: When I mowed the lawn the same Robin would come right up to me and start
: pecking out the insects from the lawn.He/she would sit on the fence nearby
and
: watch me, hopping down and right up to me. I also noticed another Robin
would
: often be close by.So I assume it was the mate or a grown chick.There
seemed to
: be a nest close by as they would pick up food and disappear in the
direction of
: the bushes at the end of the garden.
:
: One morning I noticed the neighbours cat taking a dump in one of my flower
: beds. I tried to shoo the critter off but he didin't seem to be bothered
by my
: protestations. Over the days this cat seemed to be hanging around alot.A
few
: days ago I heard a hell of a noise from the bushes at the end of the
garden and
: a passer by said it was the robins squawking at the cat.
:
: I used to put bird seed out on the path for the robins which they took.Now
I
: notice the robins are no more, they don't come to feed and I havent seen
them
: for a good few days.
:
: I assume this feline criminal attacked the robins and they are no more.
:
: Now I am not a great fan of cats as they are in my view in the same
category as
: pidgeons... a nuisance.
:
: How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and
hence
: protect any future birds!!?
:

Buy a dog, or a cat(Tom)
ER

Kate

"caractacus" <richard.d.mayes@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1149329159.784504.115940@u72g2000cwu.googlegr oups.com...
>
> birdman wrote:
>
>> I recently moved house and when I started to sort out the garden I
>> discovered I had a very friendly 'Robin' and his family I suspect
>> living somewhere very close by.
>>
>> When I mowed the lawn the same Robin would come right up to me and
>> start pecking out the insects from the lawn.He/she would sit on the
>> fence nearby and watch me, hopping down and right up to me. I also
>> noticed another Robin would often be close by.So I assume it was
>> the mate or a grown chick.There seemed to be a nest close by as
>> they would pick up food and disappear in the direction of
>> the bushes at the end of the garden.
>>
>> One morning I noticed the neighbours cat taking a dump in one of my
>> flower beds. I tried to shoo the critter off but he didin't seem to
>> be bothered by my protestations. Over the days this cat seemed to
>> be hanging around alot.A few days ago I heard a hell of a noise
>> from the bushes at the end of the garden and a passer by said it
>> was the robins squawking at the cat.
>>
>> I used to put bird seed out on the path for the robins which they
>> took.Now I notice the robins are no more, they don't come to feed
>> and I havent seen them for a good few days. I assume this feline
>> criminal attacked the robins and they are no more.
>>
>> Now I am not a great fan of cats as they are in my view in the same
>> category as pidgeons... a nuisance.
>>
>> How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future
>> and hence protect any future birds!!?
>
> I agree with you about cats, there are about 7.5 million domestic
> cats in the UK and on average they kill 30 wild creatures a year
> each. That's a lot of wildlife.
>
> Anyone, how to discourage them? I have heard it told that my local
> zoo sells lion dung , which people use for this very purpose.
> Spread it around your boundaries and the cats are dismayed. I have
> not tried it so I cannot verify if it works but it has got to be
> worth a go.
>

I thought that lion dung was used to deter deer. After all, lions are
cats, and the local moggies might try out-pooing the smell to
establish their dominance!

Kate

David Lee

Kate wrote...
> I thought that lion dung was used to deter deer. After all, lions are
> cats, and the local moggies might try out-pooing the smell to
> establish their dominance!

You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some sort of
genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion dung
impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few years ago - a
product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"! Certainly seemed to keep
neighbours' cats off my garden for the season. I assume the effect is
something along the lines of "I'm not mixing it with anything that smells
THAT big"!

David

Kate

"David Lee" <davidlee_malvern@dont.use.this.bit.hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:LO-dneTFpto-sR7ZRVnyrA@eclipse.net.uk...
> Kate wrote...
>> I thought that lion dung was used to deter deer. After all, lions
>> are
>> cats, and the local moggies might try out-pooing the smell to
>> establish their dominance!
>
> You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some
> sort of genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion
> dung impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few
> years ago - a product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"!
> Certainly seemed to keep neighbours' cats off my garden for the
> season. I assume the effect is something along the lines of "I'm
> not mixing it with anything that smells THAT big"!
>
> David
That`s interesting. Did you just place the pebbles in the cats`
favourite latrines? And how strong was the pong?

Kate

David Lee

Kate wrote...
>
> David Lee wrote...
>> You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some sort
>> of genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion dung
>> impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few years ago - a
>> product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"! Certainly seemed to
>> keep neighbours' cats off my garden for the season. I assume the effect
>> is something along the lines of "I'm not mixing it with anything that
>> smells THAT big"!
>>
>> David
> That`s interesting. Did you just place the pebbles in the cats` favourite
> latrines? And how strong was the pong?

Just scattered them around my bedding plants. I don't remember any really
strong odour. I suspect that it was a commercial marketing of the extracted
deer repellent product used to protect scottish plantations rather than the
raw smelly stuff. Haven't seen it on sale since.

However the same friend has recently given me a pot of granules containing
unspecified "naturally occurring aromatic oils" to try to deal with the evil
ones belonging to my latest neighbours. I'll give them a try when I plant
out my flower beds.

David

birdman

"David Lee" <davidlee_malvern@dont.use.this.bit.hotmail.com> wrote:
>Kate wrote...
>>
>> David Lee wrote...
>>> You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some sort
>>> of genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion dung
>>> impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few years ago - a
>>> product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"! Certainly seemed to
>>> keep neighbours' cats off my garden for the season. I assume the effect
>>> is something along the lines of "I'm not mixing it with anything that
>>> smells THAT big"!
>>>
>>> David
>> That`s interesting. Did you just place the pebbles in the cats` favourite
>> latrines? And how strong was the pong?
>
>Just scattered them around my bedding plants. I don't remember any really
>strong odour. I suspect that it was a commercial marketing of the extracted
>deer repellent product used to protect scottish plantations rather than the
>raw smelly stuff. Haven't seen it on sale since.
>
>However the same friend has recently given me a pot of granules containing
>unspecified "naturally occurring aromatic oils" to try to deal with the evil
>ones belonging to my latest neighbours. I'll give them a try when I plant
>out my flower beds.
>
>David
--------------

Some interesting suggestions.

I saw this and wondered if it is just another gimmick. See:
http://www.martleyelectronics.co.uk/...ntrol.htm#pc04

Larry Stoter

Ted Richardson <le510r@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> "birdman" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:k56dnUnsOID8cuLZRVny0A@pipex.net...
> :I recently moved house and when I started to sort out the garden I
> discovered I
> : had a very friendly 'Robin' and his family I suspect living somewhere very
> : close by.
> :
> : When I mowed the lawn the same Robin would come right up to me and start
> : pecking out the insects from the lawn.He/she would sit on the fence nearby
> and
> : watch me, hopping down and right up to me. I also noticed another Robin
> would
> : often be close by.So I assume it was the mate or a grown chick.There
> seemed to
> : be a nest close by as they would pick up food and disappear in the
> direction of
> : the bushes at the end of the garden.
> :
> : One morning I noticed the neighbours cat taking a dump in one of my flower
> : beds. I tried to shoo the critter off but he didin't seem to be bothered
> by my
> : protestations. Over the days this cat seemed to be hanging around alot.A
> few
> : days ago I heard a hell of a noise from the bushes at the end of the
> garden and
> : a passer by said it was the robins squawking at the cat.
> :
> : I used to put bird seed out on the path for the robins which they took.Now
> I
> : notice the robins are no more, they don't come to feed and I havent seen
> them
> : for a good few days.
> :
> : I assume this feline criminal attacked the robins and they are no more.
> :
> : Now I am not a great fan of cats as they are in my view in the same
> category as
> : pidgeons... a nuisance.
> :
> : How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and
> hence
> : protect any future birds!!?
> :
>
> Buy a dog, or a cat(Tom)
> ER

Neutered and with some other bits missing, indicating it's abrute who
will beat up any other cat it finds ......
--
Larry Stoter

Larry Stoter

birdman <none@none.com> wrote:

> "David Lee" <davidlee_malvern@dont.use.this.bit.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Kate wrote...
> >>
> >> David Lee wrote...
> >>> You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some sort
> >>> of genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion dung
> >>> impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few years ago - a
> >>> product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"! Certainly seemed to
> >>> keep neighbours' cats off my garden for the season. I assume the effect
> >>> is something along the lines of "I'm not mixing it with anything that
> >>> smells THAT big"!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >> That`s interesting. Did you just place the pebbles in the cats` favourite
> >> latrines? And how strong was the pong?
> >
> >Just scattered them around my bedding plants. I don't remember any really
> >strong odour. I suspect that it was a commercial marketing of the extracted
> >deer repellent product used to protect scottish plantations rather than the
> >raw smelly stuff. Haven't seen it on sale since.
> >
> >However the same friend has recently given me a pot of granules containing
> >unspecified "naturally occurring aromatic oils" to try to deal with the evil
> >ones belonging to my latest neighbours. I'll give them a try when I plant
> >out my flower beds.
> >
> >David
> --------------
>
> Some interesting suggestions.
>
> I saw this and wondered if it is just another gimmick. See:
> http://www.martleyelectronics.co.uk/...ntrol.htm#pc04

Haven't followed the link but some ultrasonic systems seem quite
effective against cats.
--
Larry Stoter

Andy Mabbett

In message <k56dnUnsOID8cuLZRVny0A@pipex.net>, birdman <none@none.com>
writes
>How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and
>hence protect any future birds!!?

The best way to stop cats fm killing birds is to attach a bell to the
cat's collar...

.... a bell weighing 2Kg or more should do the trick.
--
Andy Mabbett
Say "NO!" to compulsory ID Cards: <http://www.no2id.net/>

Free Our Data: <http://www.freeourdata.org.uk>

Peter Alaca

Andy Mabbett wrote: news:WOCP68miHIjEFwQ7@pigsonthewing.org.uk
> birdman writes

>> How can I keep this likely murderer away from my garden in future and
>> hence protect any future birds!!?

> The best way to stop cats fm killing birds is to attach a bell to the
> cat's collar...
>
> ... a bell weighing 2Kg or more should do the trick.

Another possibility is to attach bells to the birds.
Hard to swallow for a cat.

--
p.a.

Mike Coon

Peter Alaca wrote:
> Another possibility is to attach bells to the birds.
> Hard to swallow for a cat.

Complete with alarm clock?

Mike.
--
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Peter Alaca

Mike Coon wrote:
news:448dbda9$0$22085$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net
> Peter Alaca wrote:

>> Another possibility is to attach bells to the birds.
>> Hard to swallow for a cat.

> Complete with alarm clock?

Better use cuckoo clocks then.

--
p.a.

Gra

"Larry Stoter" <larry@cymru.freewire.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1hgj5g5.a4dgmc1vagb7wN%larry@cymru.freewire.c o.uk...
birdman <none@none.com> wrote:

> "David Lee" <davidlee_malvern@dont.use.this.bit.hotmail.com> wrote:
> >Kate wrote...
> >>
> >> David Lee wrote...
> >>> You're correct - extract of lion dung is used to deter deer - some
> >>> sort
> >>> of genetic memory effect. However a friend bought me some lion dung
> >>> impregnated pebbles from a gardening show at the NEC a few years ago -
> >>> a
> >>> product sold as a cat deterrent, called "Dung-Ho"! Certainly seemed to
> >>> keep neighbours' cats off my garden for the season. I assume the
> >>> effect
> >>> is something along the lines of "I'm not mixing it with anything that
> >>> smells THAT big"!
> >>>
> >>> David
> >> That`s interesting. Did you just place the pebbles in the cats`
> >> favourite
> >> latrines? And how strong was the pong?
> >
> >Just scattered them around my bedding plants. I don't remember any
> >really
> >strong odour. I suspect that it was a commercial marketing of the
> >extracted
> >deer repellent product used to protect scottish plantations rather than
> >the
> >raw smelly stuff. Haven't seen it on sale since.
> >
> >However the same friend has recently given me a pot of granules
> >containing
> >unspecified "naturally occurring aromatic oils" to try to deal with the
> >evil
> >ones belonging to my latest neighbours. I'll give them a try when I
> >plant
> >out my flower beds.
> >
> >David
> --------------
>
> Some interesting suggestions.
>
> I saw this and wondered if it is just another gimmick. See:
> http://www.martleyelectronics.co.uk/...ntrol.htm#pc04

Haven't followed the link but some ultrasonic systems seem quite
effective against cats.
--
Larry Stoter



Hi

I have a ultra sonic cat deterrent. It is suppose to be silent to humans but
is not. You can hear a high pitch sound when it goes off. It did stop the
neighbours cats to begin with but they just learn to move around it's
boundaries. They just tend to ignore it now. Possible because it is so
sensitive it goes off a lot and they have got use to it.

Graeme