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Is this a roe deer, please?
http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg
The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think it was a fawn. Thanks Kate |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"Kate" <@*slamaspam*. > The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no white > patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think it was a > fawn. > What ever it is be very careful around Deer at this time of year, a lady got near some females and fawns in Bushy park a couple of weeks ago to photograph them (stupid imo) not realising she had got between the stag and his females. He charged her and ripped out her intestines, she only survived because a Doctor saw it happen and stuffed them all back. Deer are not domesticated animals even in Deer Parks. -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"Bob Hobden" <bobh@invalid.com> wrote in message news:4qus8mFp22qqU1@individual.net... > > "Kate" <@*slamaspam*. >> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t >> think it was a fawn. >> > What ever it is be very careful around Deer at this time of year, a > lady got near some females and fawns in Bushy park a couple of weeks > ago to photograph them (stupid imo) not realising she had got > between the stag and his females. He charged her and ripped out her > intestines, she only survived because a Doctor saw it happen and > stuffed them all back. > Deer are not domesticated animals even in Deer Parks. > > -- > Regards > Bob H > 17mls W. of London.UK > Thanks for the warning, Bob, but as the beautiful sunshine and seeding grasses show, this photo was taken back in the summer, in the wild rough of a golf course. There doesn`t seem to be a herd of them - just two or three individuals which I`ve seen only very occasionally and never a stag. I did a search for images on-line, and only the roe was anything like it : certainly not a red deer, too small for sika, not fallow, wrong shaped head for muntjac... Still, it would be nice to have confirmation. Anyone? Kate PS : re the photographer in Bushy Park, I know what it is like to be so focussed on your subject, that everything else is forgotten. |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote: > http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg > > The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no > white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think > it was a fawn. > > Thanks > It looks like a fawn to me. |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
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"sleepalot" <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote in message news:1162546587.833873.247410@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com... > > > On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote: >> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >> >> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think >> it was a fawn. >> >> Thanks >> > It looks like a fawn to me. > I agree It looks like a fallow deer fawn. Very good picture though |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
In message <sMK2h.124664$lT5.36184@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk> , ANDREW
BURT <Andrew.Burt@blueyonder.co.uk> writes >I >"sleepalot" <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote in message >news:1162546587.833873.247410@m73g2000cwd.googleg roups.com... >> >> >> On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >>> >>> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >>> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think >>> it was a fawn. >>> >>> Thanks >>> >> It looks like a fawn to me. >> > >I agree It looks like a fallow deer fawn. Very good picture though > > I am afraid I have to disagree. To me it is a young Roe (I believe Kid is the correct term in Roe). As the photo (very good by the way) was loading the ears alone said Roe to me. The statement of a small family group also to me means Roe is much more likely than Fallow which is a herding species. -- Malcolm Kane |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
Malcolm Kane wrote: news:mFXTaiKPN8SFFwaY@jgj-jewellers.demon.co.uk
> ANDREW BURT writes >> "sleepalot" wrote in message >>> On Nov 2, 12:59 pm, "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >>>> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >>>> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t >>>> think it was a fawn. >>> It looks like a fawn to me. >> I agree It looks like a fallow deer fawn. Very good picture though > I am afraid I have to disagree. To me it is a young Roe (I believe > Kid is the correct term in Roe). As the photo (very good by the way) > was loading the ears alone said Roe to me. > > The statement of a small family group also to me means Roe is much > more likely than Fallow which is a herding species. I also thought it is a Roe (black snout, ears), but I think it has a tail and there is some black on the back, so a Fallow is more likely. But how about Sika? -- p.a. .. -- p.a. |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eicq43$me7$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... > http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg > > The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no white > patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think it was a > fawn. More info required! When the photo was taken and where. And it's a very young roe;-) Others suggest Fallow, not so, nor Sitka. Regards Chris -- Craven and Pendle Birds: Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle. North Yorkshire and East Lancashire. http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/ |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
C R Fishwick wrote: news:4r363vFpg6mdU1@individual.net
> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:eicq43$me7$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >> >> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t think >> it was a fawn. > > > More info required! When the photo was taken and where. Looking at the grass is was June/July > And it's a very young roe;-) Others suggest Fallow, not so, nor Sitka. No tail? -- p.a. |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"Peter Alaca" <p.alaca@purple.nn> wrote in message news:454c7b68$0$37217$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl... >C R Fishwick wrote: news:4r363vFpg6mdU1@individual.net > >> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:eicq43$me7$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >>> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >>> >>> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >>> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t >>> think >>> it was a fawn. >> >> >> More info required! When the photo was taken and where. > > Looking at the grass is was June/July > >> And it's a very young roe;-) Others suggest Fallow, not so, nor >> Sitka. > > No tail? > > -- > p.a. Yes, the photo was taken end June, on a golf course which is in a Country Park in Dorset. It must have been lying down in the long grass when I disturbed it, and I only had the one chance for a photo, unfortunately. I guess it was about 2 1/2 to 3 ft tall, judging from the grasses, and was on its own. I believe that there are sitkas and muntjacs in the park as well as roe, and it was the lack of white on the behind that led me to doubt my initial ID of roe. Thanks for all the replies. Kate |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eiihva$lnt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... > > "Peter Alaca" <p.alaca@purple.nn> wrote in message > news:454c7b68$0$37217$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl... >>C R Fishwick wrote: news:4r363vFpg6mdU1@individual.net >> >>> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>> news:eicq43$me7$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >>>> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >>>> >>>> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is no >>>> white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I don`t >>>> think >>>> it was a fawn. >>> >>> >>> More info required! When the photo was taken and where. >> >> Looking at the grass is was June/July >> >>> And it's a very young roe;-) Others suggest Fallow, not so, nor >>> Sitka. >> >> No tail? >> >> -- >> p.a. > > Yes, the photo was taken end June, on a golf course which is in a > Country Park in Dorset. It must have been lying down in the long > grass when I disturbed it, and I only had the one chance for a photo, > unfortunately. I guess it was about 2 1/2 to 3 ft tall, judging from > the grasses, and was on its own. I believe that there are sitkas and > muntjacs in the park as well as roe, and it was the lack of white on > the behind that led me to doubt my initial ID of roe. > > Thanks for all the replies. My second opinion is a Sika;-) After looking again it seems as though it's slightly spotted on the back;-) See photo of a young Sika: http://cerfs.free.fr/english/photo-e.php3?num=136 It is definitely not a Muncjac. And to confuse the issue;-) How about a Chinese water deer (Hydropotes inermis) ;-) Regards Chris Craven and Pendle Birds: Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle. North Yorkshire and East Lancashire. http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/ |
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Re: Is this a roe deer, please?
"C R Fishwick" <crfishwick@nospamhotmail.com> wrote in message news:4r5l06FpokhlU1@individual.net... > "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:eiihva$lnt$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... >> >> "Peter Alaca" <p.alaca@purple.nn> wrote in message >> news:454c7b68$0$37217$dbd45001@news.wanadoo.nl... >>>C R Fishwick wrote: news:4r363vFpg6mdU1@individual.net >>> >>>> "Kate" <@*slamaspam*.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>>> news:eicq43$me7$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk... >>>>> http://www.trik.demon.co.uk/images/roe%20deer_query.jpg >>>>> >>>>> The markings around the nose and mouth look right, but there is >>>>> no white patch at the rear. It was quite small, although I >>>>> don`t think it was a fawn. >>>> >>>> >>>> More info required! When the photo was taken and where. >>> >>> Looking at the grass is was June/July >>> >>>> And it's a very young roe;-) Others suggest Fallow, not so, nor >>>> Sitka. >>> >>> No tail? >>> >>> -- >>> p.a. >> >> Yes, the photo was taken end June, on a golf course which is in a >> Country Park in Dorset. It must have been lying down in the long >> grass when I disturbed it, and I only had the one chance for a >> photo, unfortunately. I guess it was about 2 1/2 to 3 ft tall, >> judging from the grasses, and was on its own. I believe that there >> are sitkas and muntjacs in the park as well as roe, and it was the >> lack of white on the behind that led me to doubt my initial ID of >> roe. >> >> Thanks for all the replies. > > > My second opinion is a Sika;-) After looking again it seems as > though it's slightly spotted on the back;-) > > See photo of a young Sika: > > http://cerfs.free.fr/english/photo-e.php3?num=136 > > It is definitely not a Muncjac. And to confuse the issue;-) How > about a Chinese water deer (Hydropotes inermis) ;-) > > Regards > Chris > > Craven and Pendle Birds: > Bird watching in and around Craven & Pendle. > North Yorkshire and East Lancashire. > http://craven-and-pendle-birding.org/ > Today I spoke to a Ranger at the Country Park, and although she admitted that she wasn`t an expert, she thought it was a young roe in the process of losing its baby coat as she thought she could detect remnants of white spots. Apparently there are no muntjac in the Park, contrary to what I thought, but they do have fallow deer. She wasn`t sure about sika/sitka. As the majority of opinions point to roe, I think I shall now remove the query from my website entry. Many thanks again for the input. Kate |
