General enquiry please

Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned and/or
digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help with
identification?

I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the necessary
level of knowledge is not forthcoming.

I do NOT have a website.

"John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned and/or
> digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help with
> identification?
>
> I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the necessary
> level of knowledge is not forthcoming.
>
> I do NOT have a website.

With respect John, your pictures were not the clearist.

Ian

http://www.trishmall.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.htm

"John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned
and/or
> digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help
with
> identification?
>
> I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the
necessary
> level of knowledge is not forthcoming.
>
> I do NOT have a website.

There are several websites that offer to post pictures for you. So
having uploaded your image you can then refer the 'experts' to that
site.

The only one that comes to mind at the moment is
www.flickr.com
but there are several others.

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005

"ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005

That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly
impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them
to pose like that?
I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera
you used?

--
Sleepalot aa #1385

"ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> > Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned
> and/or
> > digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help
> with
> > identification?
> >
> > I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the
> necessary
> > level of knowledge is not forthcoming.
> >
> > I do NOT have a website.
>
>
> There are several websites that offer to post pictures for you. So
> having uploaded your image you can then refer the 'experts' to that
> site.
>
> The only one that comes to mind at the moment is
> www.flickr.com
> but there are several others.
>
> --
> ned
>
> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> last update 17.10.2005
>
Superb Ned. Who hosts yours, or is it all your own work?

Sleepalot wrote:
> "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> last update 17.10.2005
>
> That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly
> impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them
> to pose like that?
> I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera
> you used?

ROFL.
Ah, you have to talk to the iddy biddy creatures. :-)
Glad you liked the site.

The camera is a simple Konica KD-400Z digital compact model. Nothing
fancy. The macro goes down to about 6inch range and I get some funny
looks from the professional guys when I stick a hand held lens in
front of it to get down to about 2 inches. Like everything else in
life, I aspire to something better but I hate parting with cash.

Re getting close to subjects, I usually start clicking away when about
three feet away and slowly home in. Of course you always get to the
point where you click the shutter 0.5 seconds after the subject has
flown. I reckon on taking about six shots for every one that I use.

Probably the most important thing is the photo editing that goes on
afterwards. There is no way you can clean up something that is out of
focus or blurred, but fiddling with (sorry, 'making technical
adjustments to') the brightness, contrast and sharpness and cropping
out unwanted background can make one heck of a difference. The photo
editing package I use is the budget product from Serif Software called
PhotoPlus 9.

I'm no expert. If I can do it, you can do it. :-))

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005

John Sullivan wrote:
> "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:3snd1hFp4nklU1@individual.net...
>>
>> "John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>> news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
>>> Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned
>>> and/or digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose
>>> of help with identification?
>>>
>>> I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the
>>> necessary level of knowledge is not forthcoming.
>>>
>>> I do NOT have a website.
>>
>>
>> There are several websites that offer to post pictures for you. So
>> having uploaded your image you can then refer the 'experts' to that
>> site.
>>
>> The only one that comes to mind at the moment is
>> www.flickr.com
>> but there are several others.
>>
>> --
>> ned
>>
>> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
>> last update 17.10.2005
>>
> Superb Ned. Who hosts yours, or is it all your own work?

Thanks John.
The website design, the HTML and CSS coding and content are 'all my
own work', - as any professional will attest to! :-) I've got no
illusions about that. But it seems to just about work - and much to my
amazement gets a truly worldwideweb audience.
Most ISPs offer some webspace. If I were you, I would enquire how to
access and activate yours. Then uploading an image or two should not
be all that difficult. And once you have your first image on the web
and add a bit of text, that's as good as your first 'page'. Then
before you know it you could link to a second page and - hey, you have
a website! :-))
But it was my experience that the website addresses offered by my ISP
were dictated by the ISP and not very memorable, so I acquired my own
domain name for the site.
The site is hosted on Pipex servers by a local host,
'TouchdownOnline'.
Now, if all that sounds a bit complicated, I assure you that it
started from very, very humble beginnings.

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005

"ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3sstekFq12lrU2@individual.net...
> John Sullivan wrote:
> > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:3snd1hFp4nklU1@individual.net...
> >>
> >> "John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net...
> >>> Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned
> >>> and/or digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose
> >>> of help with identification?
> >>>
> >>> I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the
> >>> necessary level of knowledge is not forthcoming.
> >>>
> >>> I do NOT have a website.
> >>
> >>
> >> There are several websites that offer to post pictures for you. So
> >> having uploaded your image you can then refer the 'experts' to that
> >> site.
> >>
> >> The only one that comes to mind at the moment is
> >> www.flickr.com
> >> but there are several others.
> >>
> >> --
> >> ned
> >>
> >> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> >> last update 17.10.2005
> >>
> > Superb Ned. Who hosts yours, or is it all your own work?
>
> Thanks John.
> The website design, the HTML and CSS coding and content are 'all my
> own work', - as any professional will attest to! :-) I've got no
> illusions about that. But it seems to just about work - and much to my
> amazement gets a truly worldwideweb audience.
> Most ISPs offer some webspace. If I were you, I would enquire how to
> access and activate yours. Then uploading an image or two should not
> be all that difficult. And once you have your first image on the web
> and add a bit of text, that's as good as your first 'page'. Then
> before you know it you could link to a second page and - hey, you have
> a website! :-))
> But it was my experience that the website addresses offered by my ISP
> were dictated by the ISP and not very memorable, so I acquired my own
> domain name for the site.
> The site is hosted on Pipex servers by a local host,
> 'TouchdownOnline'.
> Now, if all that sounds a bit complicated, I assure you that it
> started from very, very humble beginnings.
>
OK Ned. Thanks again. I once had a website when on dial up with Demon, but
have switched to ntl broadband, so can no longer use it.
Mind you, all it was was a very limited title page stating that I wished,
initially, to use it to display pics of natural history and transport
related subjects for identification, and for family history.
The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured attempted
assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:

(a) upload the pics

(b) had I ever achieved that, I would, of course, have wished to remove them
when identified.

PS I ain't good with jargon! (:-)

"John Sullivan" wrote
>The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured attempted
> assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:
>
> (a) upload the pics
>

You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at http://www.tpin.com/

--
Regards
Bob
In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

"Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>
> "John Sullivan" wrote
> >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured
attempted
> > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:
> >
> > (a) upload the pics
> >
>
> You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at
http://www.tpin.com/
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob
> In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London
>
>

"Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3susjjFkqmafU1@individual.net...
>
> "John Sullivan" wrote
> >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured
attempted
> > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:
> >
> > (a) upload the pics
> >
>
> You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at
http://www.tpin.com/
>
> --
> Regards
> Bob
> In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London
>
>

"Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:3susjjFkqmafU1@individual.net...
>
> "John Sullivan" wrote
> >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured
attempted
> > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:
> >
> > (a) upload the pics
> >
>
> You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at
http://www.tpin.com/
>
Thanks Bob. I MAY just get brave enough to give it another go sometime!

"John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:3susjjFkqmafU1@individual.net...
> >
> > "John Sullivan" wrote
> > >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured
> attempted
> > > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to:
> > >
> > > (a) upload the pics
> > >
> >
> > You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at
> http://www.tpin.com/
> >
> Thanks Bob. I MAY just get brave enough to give it another go
sometime!

As I said, I don't claim any great expertise but I manage to upload
all my stuff using Internet Explorer. There are no end of FTP programs
around - and presumably they all have their own pros and cons, but IE
seems to satisfy all my needs.
And John, it is just as easy to delete what you no longer want. I'm
forever changing images and text on my site.
Best of luck.

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 17.10.2005

Sleepalot <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote:
> "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> last update 17.10.2005

> That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly
> impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them
> to pose like that?
> I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera
> you used?

Actually I find it only partly readable.
Web browser mozilla 1.0

What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with
scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very
confusing, and not all of the page is shown.

"Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dke5a4$mss$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk...
> Sleepalot <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote:
> > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> > last update 17.10.2005
>
> > That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly
> > impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them
> > to pose like that?
> > I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera
> > you used?
>
> Actually I find it only partly readable.
> Web browser mozilla 1.0
>
> What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with
> scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very
> confusing, and not all of the page is shown.

Thanks for that feedback. It did work once but mozilla is not my
'browser of choice' and its been a while since I did a cross browser
validation. I will have a look and see what has happened.
Can I ask what window size you are using. That may have some bearing.
Thanks again.

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 04.11.2005

ned wrote...
> As I said, I don't claim any great expertise but I manage to upload
> all my stuff using Internet Explorer. There are no end of FTP programs
> around - and presumably they all have their own pros and cons, but IE
> seems to satisfy all my needs.
> And John, it is just as easy to delete what you no longer want. I'm
> forever changing images and text on my site.
> Best of luck.

You need to "Enable folder view for FTP sites" from IE's advanced Internet
Options menu before you will get the "Login As..." option on the IE file
menu, which you will probably ned in order to log in to access your personal
files.

David

ned <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > Actually I find it only partly readable.
> > Web browser mozilla 1.0
> >
> > What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with
> > scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very
> > confusing, and not all of the page is shown.

> Thanks for that feedback. It did work once but mozilla is not my
> 'browser of choice' and its been a while since I did a cross browser
> validation. I will have a look and see what has happened.
> Can I ask what window size you are using. That may have some bearing.

Sorry no idea. I don't run my browser window fullscreen, and adjust it to
suite whatever else I want to see on screen. It shouldn't make much
difference. Text should wrap accordingly. frames/tables should be sized
proportionately not absolutely, and my browser should give me scoll bars
if the images won't fit.

cheers
Jim

> Thanks again.

> --
> ned

> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
> last update 04.11.2005

"Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dkfp0a$710$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
> ned <me@privacy.net> wrote:
> > > Actually I find it only partly readable.
> > > Web browser mozilla 1.0
> > >
> > > What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with
> > > scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is
very
> > > confusing, and not all of the page is shown.
>
> > Thanks for that feedback. It did work once but mozilla is not my
> > 'browser of choice' and its been a while since I did a cross
browser
> > validation. I will have a look and see what has happened.
> > Can I ask what window size you are using. That may have some
bearing.
>
> Sorry no idea. I don't run my browser window fullscreen, and adjust
it to
> suite whatever else I want to see on screen. It shouldn't make much
> difference. Text should wrap accordingly. frames/tables should be
sized
> proportionately not absolutely, and my browser should give me scoll
bars
> if the images won't fit.

Right, Jim
'Have had a look and I think I understand the problem.
First off I'm using Mozilla 1.6 but I doubt that has any bearing.
This was my first multi-browser site build and I admit to compromising
where I couldn't find correct solutions. I tried to set things up so
that it could be used with minimised windows - but, it only works up
to a minimum of about 800 pix wide. Reducing the width further causes
the right hand content to slide behind the left-hand menu. I guess
that is what you are seeing.
I rationalised that approach by thinking that the layout fell apart if
one ended up with big long narrow windows with all the relevant text
underneath the images. I did try an alternative 'image, text, image,
text' style but didn't like that in full screen mode. I felt there was
a practical limit to the proportional spacing theory.
So, I guess I have to admit that my compromise doesn't go far enough
for your situation. Sorry about that.
I confess I found the multi-browser challenge pretty daunting. How the
various browser teams have interpreted a common standard in different
ways is somewhat mind boggling.

I appreciate your feedback.
You have reactivated my design thoughts - wouldn't do to get all
complacent!
:-))

--
ned

http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk
last update 04.11.2005

	#1
John Sullivan	General enquiry please Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned and/or digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help with identification? I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the necessary level of knowledge is not forthcoming. I do NOT have a website.

	#2
aeshna	Re: General enquiry please "John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net... > Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned and/or > digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose of help with > identification? > > I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the necessary > level of knowledge is not forthcoming. > > I do NOT have a website. With respect John, your pictures were not the clearist. Ian http://www.trishmall.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.htm

	#4
Sleepalot	Re: General enquiry please "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote: http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 17.10.2005 That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them to pose like that? I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera you used? -- Sleepalot aa #1385

	#6
ned	Re: General enquiry please Sleepalot wrote: > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote: > > http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk > last update 17.10.2005 > > That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly > impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them > to pose like that? > I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera > you used? ROFL. Ah, you have to talk to the iddy biddy creatures. :-) Glad you liked the site. The camera is a simple Konica KD-400Z digital compact model. Nothing fancy. The macro goes down to about 6inch range and I get some funny looks from the professional guys when I stick a hand held lens in front of it to get down to about 2 inches. Like everything else in life, I aspire to something better but I hate parting with cash. Re getting close to subjects, I usually start clicking away when about three feet away and slowly home in. Of course you always get to the point where you click the shutter 0.5 seconds after the subject has flown. I reckon on taking about six shots for every one that I use. Probably the most important thing is the photo editing that goes on afterwards. There is no way you can clean up something that is out of focus or blurred, but fiddling with (sorry, 'making technical adjustments to') the brightness, contrast and sharpness and cropping out unwanted background can make one heck of a difference. The photo editing package I use is the budget product from Serif Software called PhotoPlus 9. I'm no expert. If I can do it, you can do it. :-)) -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 17.10.2005

	#7
ned	Re: General enquiry please John Sullivan wrote: > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message > news:3snd1hFp4nklU1@individual.net... >> >> "John Sullivan" <john.sullivan30@ntlworld.com> wrote in message >> news:3Ho9f.27680$65.21492@newsfe6-win.ntli.net... >>> Does anyone please know of a group to which I could post scanned >>> and/or digital images of natural history subjects for the purpose >>> of help with identification? >>> >>> I have tried alt.binaries.pictures.nature but found that the >>> necessary level of knowledge is not forthcoming. >>> >>> I do NOT have a website. >> >> >> There are several websites that offer to post pictures for you. So >> having uploaded your image you can then refer the 'experts' to that >> site. >> >> The only one that comes to mind at the moment is >> www.flickr.com >> but there are several others. >> >> -- >> ned >> >> http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk >> last update 17.10.2005 >> > Superb Ned. Who hosts yours, or is it all your own work? Thanks John. The website design, the HTML and CSS coding and content are 'all my own work', - as any professional will attest to! :-) I've got no illusions about that. But it seems to just about work - and much to my amazement gets a truly worldwideweb audience. Most ISPs offer some webspace. If I were you, I would enquire how to access and activate yours. Then uploading an image or two should not be all that difficult. And once you have your first image on the web and add a bit of text, that's as good as your first 'page'. Then before you know it you could link to a second page and - hey, you have a website! :-)) But it was my experience that the website addresses offered by my ISP were dictated by the ISP and not very memorable, so I acquired my own domain name for the site. The site is hosted on Pipex servers by a local host, 'TouchdownOnline'. Now, if all that sounds a bit complicated, I assure you that it started from very, very humble beginnings. -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 17.10.2005

	#9
Bob Hobden	Re: General enquiry please "John Sullivan" wrote >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured attempted > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to: > > (a) upload the pics > You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at http://www.tpin.com/ -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London

	#10
John Sullivan	Re: General enquiry please "Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:3susjjFkqmafU1@individual.net... > > "John Sullivan" wrote > >The problem was that, try as I might, and with much good-natured attempted > > assistance from folk on line, I couldn't find a way to: > > > > (a) upload the pics > > > > You need to use an FTP Browser, I use Terrapin, free at http://www.tpin.com/ > > -- > Regards > Bob > In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London > >

	#14
Jim Jackson	Re: General enquiry please Sleepalot <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote: > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote: > http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk > last update 17.10.2005 > That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly > impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them > to pose like that? > I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera > you used? Actually I find it only partly readable. Web browser mozilla 1.0 What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very confusing, and not all of the page is shown.

	#15
ned	Re: General enquiry please "Jim Jackson" <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote in message news:dke5a4$mss$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... > Sleepalot <sleepy03@fsmail.net> wrote: > > "ned" <me@privacy.net> wrote: > > > http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk > > last update 17.10.2005 > > > That's a damn fine website, Ned! I was particularly > > impressed with the butterflies. How do you get them > > to pose like that? > > I aspire to do a similar thing. Can I ask what camera > > you used? > > Actually I find it only partly readable. > Web browser mozilla 1.0 > > What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with > scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very > confusing, and not all of the page is shown. Thanks for that feedback. It did work once but mozilla is not my 'browser of choice' and its been a while since I did a cross browser validation. I will have a look and see what has happened. Can I ask what window size you are using. That may have some bearing. Thanks again. -- ned http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk last update 04.11.2005

	#16
David Lee	Re: General enquiry please ned wrote... > As I said, I don't claim any great expertise but I manage to upload > all my stuff using Internet Explorer. There are no end of FTP programs > around - and presumably they all have their own pros and cons, but IE > seems to satisfy all my needs. > And John, it is just as easy to delete what you no longer want. I'm > forever changing images and text on my site. > Best of luck. You need to "Enable folder view for FTP sites" from IE's advanced Internet Options menu before you will get the "Login As..." option on the IE file menu, which you will probably ned in order to log in to access your personal files. David

	#17
Jim Jackson	Re: General enquiry please ned <me@privacy.net> wrote: > > Actually I find it only partly readable. > > Web browser mozilla 1.0 > > > > What I can see looks good, content wise, but pages show up with > > scrolls bars internal to the mozilla scrolling page and it is very > > confusing, and not all of the page is shown. > Thanks for that feedback. It did work once but mozilla is not my > 'browser of choice' and its been a while since I did a cross browser > validation. I will have a look and see what has happened. > Can I ask what window size you are using. That may have some bearing. Sorry no idea. I don't run my browser window fullscreen, and adjust it to suite whatever else I want to see on screen. It shouldn't make much difference. Text should wrap accordingly. frames/tables should be sized proportionately not absolutely, and my browser should give me scoll bars if the images won't fit. cheers Jim > Thanks again. > -- > ned > http://www.bugsandweeds.co.uk > last update 04.11.2005