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Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK.
not lilly of the valley not snowdrops not daisy I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' but it must be British |
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Re: flowers
In article <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. > >not lilly of the valley > >not snowdrops > >not daisy > >I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' > >but it must be British > > Do I detect a quiz being undertaken? What share of the prize is available for coming up with an answer......?? -- Malcolm |
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"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:lTgM0JQTx2EDFwSi@indaal.demon.co.uk... > > In article <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe > <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >> >>not lilly of the valley >> >>not snowdrops >> >>not daisy >> >>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >> >>but it must be British >> >> > Do I detect a quiz being undertaken? > > What share of the prize is available for coming up with an answer......?? Good guess, but I'm a writer and I need this to describe someone describing someone else (if that makes sense). And it has stumped me I'll admit. Everything I have thought of so far has been far too cliche. |
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In article <pdKQe.4121$l7.3449@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:lTgM0JQTx2EDFwSi@indaal.demon.co.uk... >> >> In article <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe >> <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >>> >>>not lilly of the valley >>> >>>not snowdrops >>> >>>not daisy >>> >>>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >>> >>>but it must be British >>> >>> >> Do I detect a quiz being undertaken? >> >> What share of the prize is available for coming up with an answer......?? > >Good guess, but I'm a writer Ah, so it's royalties we're discussing :-)) >and I need this to describe someone describing >someone else (if that makes sense). And it has stumped me I'll admit. >Everything I have thought of so far has been far too cliche. > Perhaps that's because anything that is "as white as" *is* a cliche :-) And obviously your problem is that it has to be something that is at least reasonably familiar to the reader otherwise it isn't going to make sense and the flower name also mustn't have the word "white" in it. "As white as white deadnettle/campion/mustard/helleborine" doesn't quite cut it, somehow. Does it have to be a flower? As white as a mountain hare (or ptarmigan) in winter. -- Malcolm |
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"SpiKe wrote > Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. > > not lilly of the valley > > not snowdrops > > not daisy > > I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' > > but it must be British A Wood Anemone http://homepage.ntlworld.com/david.s...d/gd020220.htm Oxeye Daisy Wild Waterlily. Bindweed. Barn Owl in flight at night. Swan. Seagulls belly regards Bob. |
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"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:qiUf4oSAW3EDFwhy@indaal.demon.co.uk... > > In article <pdKQe.4121$l7.3449@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe > <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>"Malcolm" <Malcolm@indaal.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >>news:lTgM0JQTx2EDFwSi@indaal.demon.co.uk... >>> >>> In article <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe >>> <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>>>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >>>> >>>>not lilly of the valley >>>> >>>>not snowdrops >>>> >>>>not daisy >>>> >>>>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >>>> >>>>but it must be British >>>> >>>> >>> Do I detect a quiz being undertaken? >>> >>> What share of the prize is available for coming up with an >>> answer......?? >> >>Good guess, but I'm a writer > > Ah, so it's royalties we're discussing :-)) I'll give you a mention in my acknowledgements ;-) >>and I need this to describe someone describing >>someone else (if that makes sense). And it has stumped me I'll admit. >>Everything I have thought of so far has been far too cliche. >> > Perhaps that's because anything that is "as white as" *is* a cliche :-) Yes you are correct. This is a good observation. But for my purposes it has to be "as white as ??? >And obviously your problem is that it has to be something that is at least >reasonably familiar to the reader otherwise it isn't going to make sense >and the flower name also mustn't have the word "white" in it. "As white as >white deadnettle/campion/mustard/helleborine" doesn't quite cut it, >somehow. > > Does it have to be a flower? > > As white as a mountain hare (or ptarmigan) in winter. No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use an expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the reader (hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a mountain hare or ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. |
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In message <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe
<no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. > >not lilly of the valley > >not snowdrops > >not daisy > >I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' > >but it must be British > > Wild garlic (ramsons), three-cornered leek, Star-of-Bethlehem, Solomon's seal, large and hedge bindweeds, privet, assorted umbellifers, hawthorn, rowan, whitebeam, pear, crab, mountain avens, meadowsweet, strawberry, blackthorn, stitchwort, assorted crucifers, white water lily, wood anemone, water-crowfoot, etc. (If you except daisies, with their yellow disc flowers, as white, then ox-eye daisies, yarrow, sneezewort, chamomile, mayweed, feverfew, etc are as least as acceptable.) -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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"Bob Hobden" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message news:3nhdv2F1itdaU1@individual.net... > Barn Owl in flight at night. That'll do nicely. "As white as a barn owl" is just what I need. Even though they are partly brown. The gist is enough. I cant believe I didnt think of it myself being a keen birdwatcher. I had thought of every white bird I could but not the Barn Owl. Thank you very much indeed............. :-) |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:UGQC5p$nA4EDFwUb@meden.demon.co.uk... > In message <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe > <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >> >>not lilly of the valley >> >>not snowdrops >> >>not daisy >> >>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >> >>but it must be British >> >> > Wild garlic (ramsons), three-cornered leek, Star-of-Bethlehem, Solomon's > seal, large and hedge bindweeds, privet, assorted umbellifers, hawthorn, > rowan, whitebeam, pear, crab, mountain avens, meadowsweet, strawberry, > blackthorn, stitchwort, assorted crucifers, white water lily, wood > anemone, water-crowfoot, etc. (If you except daisies, with their yellow > disc flowers, as white, then ox-eye daisies, yarrow, sneezewort, > chamomile, mayweed, feverfew, etc are as least as acceptable.) > -- Wow !! someone knows their flowers 'sneezewort' what a great name that is. |
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SpiKe <no-one@home.com. wrote:
> "Stewart Robert Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message > news:UGQC5p$nA4EDFwUb@meden.demon.co.uk... > >>In message <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe >><no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >> >>>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >>> >>>not lilly of the valley >>> >>>not snowdrops >>> >>>not daisy >>> >>>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >>> >>>but it must be British >>> Grass of Parnassus always fools my digital camera with its dazzlingly white petals ... |
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"Phoebe" <noone@junkmail.com> wrote in message news:df01se$cto$1$8302bc10@news.demon.co.uk... > SpiKe <no-one@home.com. wrote: >> "Stewart Robert Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:UGQC5p$nA4EDFwUb@meden.demon.co.uk... >> >>>In message <whJQe.15484$x4.11203@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe >>><no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >>> >>>>Anyone know a very white wild flower from UK. >>>> >>>>not lilly of the valley >>>> >>>>not snowdrops >>>> >>>>not daisy >>>> >>>>I need a saying of the nature 'as white as ????' >>>> >>>>but it must be British >>>> > > Grass of Parnassus always fools my digital camera with its dazzlingly > white petals ... V nice. http://www.botanical-online.com/flor...trisangles.htm |
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In message <aFLQe.2560$Ys5.984@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe
<no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes > >Wow !! someone knows their flowers > >'sneezewort' what a great name that is. > I cheated - I skimmed Keble-Martin -- Stewart Robert Hinsley |
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 at 21:56:38 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote:
>No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use an >expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the reader >(hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a mountain hare or >ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't >pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. does it have to have pleasant connotations..? a new lamb blackthorn blossom the head on a pint of SA the belly of a fresh run sewin the bleached skull of a sheep sheep's wool caught in barbed wire the throat of a dipper seagulls over the tip -- Nogood Boyo |
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I believe the phrase "English rose" is often used to describe a
particularly pale skinned (and beautiful) lady. Perhaps this might help. Philip PS I believe The Jam even used it as a song title. |
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"Nogood Boyo" <NogoodBoyo@bwllfa.co.uk> wrote in message news:jxLAKuE$e6EDFwx+@ynystawe.demon.co.uk... > On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 at 21:56:38 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote: >>No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use an >>expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the reader >>(hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a mountain hare >>or >>ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't >>pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. > > does it have to have pleasant connotations..? > > a new lamb > blackthorn blossom > the head on a pint of SA > the belly of a fresh run sewin > the bleached skull of a sheep > sheep's wool caught in barbed wire > the throat of a dipper > seagulls over the tip > > -- > Nogood Boyo I had thought of a sheep skull and a dippers bib but thought it may be a little obscure. not everyone knows what a dipper is (very elusive bird that is hard to see). I watch a dipper regularly on the river near where I live. From certain angles it is almost impossible to see. especially when it is stands on small stones that have splashing white water running over them. it is a good example of plumage acting as camoflage. I have soft spot for dippers. |
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"Philip Frampton" <no_email@thankyou.com> wrote in message news:df1acn$94o$1@news.ox.ac.uk... >I believe the phrase "English rose" is often used to describe a >particularly pale skinned (and beautiful) lady. Perhaps this might help. > > Philip > > PS I believe The Jam even used it as a song title. I did think of 'wild rose' but found it a bit twee. but thanks. |
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"Stewart Robert Hinsley" <{$news$}@meden.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:Ga2GeEK+J5EDFwmg@meden.demon.co.uk... > In message <aFLQe.2560$Ys5.984@newsfe7-gui.ntli.net>, SpiKe > <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> writes >> >>Wow !! someone knows their flowers >> >>'sneezewort' what a great name that is. >> > > I cheated - I skimmed Keble-Martin > -- > Stewart Robert Hinsley Tut Tut. |
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 at 12:41:31 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote:
> >I had thought of a sheep skull and a dippers bib but thought it may be a >little obscure. not everyone knows what a dipper is (very elusive bird that >is hard to see). I watch a dipper regularly on the river near where I live. >From certain angles it is almost impossible to see. especially when it is >stands on small stones that have splashing white water running over them. it >is a good example of plumage acting as camoflage. I have soft spot for >dippers. > Me too. I spent five mins watching one this morning... -- Nogood Boyo |
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"SpiKe wrote after > > "Bob rambled on > >> Barn Owl in flight at night. > > That'll do nicely. > > "As white as a barn owl" is just what I need. Even though they are partly > brown. The gist is enough. I cant believe I didnt think of it myself being > a keen birdwatcher. I had thought of every white bird I could but not the > Barn Owl. > > Thank you very much indeed............. :-) > Glad to be of service. -- Regards Bob In Runnymede, 17 miles West of London |
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SpiKe <no-one@home.com.?.invalid> observed
> >"Nogood Boyo" <NogoodBoyo@bwllfa.co.uk> wrote in message >news:jxLAKuE$e6EDFwx+@ynystawe.demon.co.uk... >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 at 21:56:38 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote: >>>No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use an >>>expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the reader >>>(hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a mountain hare >>>or >>>ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't >>>pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. >> >> does it have to have pleasant connotations..? >> >> a new lamb >> blackthorn blossom >> the head on a pint of SA >> the belly of a fresh run sewin >> the bleached skull of a sheep >> sheep's wool caught in barbed wire >> the throat of a dipper >> seagulls over the tip >> >> -- >> Nogood Boyo > >I had thought of a sheep skull and a dippers bib but thought it may be a >little obscure. not everyone knows what a dipper is (very elusive bird that >is hard to see). I watch a dipper regularly on the river near where I live. >From certain angles it is almost impossible to see. especially when it is >stands on small stones that have splashing white water running over them. it >is a good example of plumage acting as camoflage. I have soft spot for >dippers. I certainly had 'dipper's bib' in mind, what about the froth on a mountain stream? Mike [The reply-to address is valid for 30 days from this posting] -- Michael J Davis <>< Some newsgroup contributors appear to have confused the meaning of "discussion" with "digression". <>< |
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SpiKe<no-one@home.com.<invalid> wrote on Tuesday 30 Aug 2005 1:41 pm:
> > "Nogood Boyo" <NogoodBoyo@bwllfa.co.uk> wrote in message > news:jxLAKuE$e6EDFwx+@ynystawe.demon.co.uk... >> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 at 21:56:38 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote: >>>No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use >>>an expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the >>>reader (hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a >>>mountain hare or >>>ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't >>>pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. >> >> does it have to have pleasant connotations..? >> >> a new lamb >> blackthorn blossom >> the head on a pint of SA >> the belly of a fresh run sewin >> the bleached skull of a sheep >> sheep's wool caught in barbed wire >> the throat of a dipper >> seagulls over the tip >> >> -- >> Nogood Boyo > > I had thought of a sheep skull and a dippers bib but thought it may be a > little obscure. not everyone knows what a dipper is (very elusive bird > that is hard to see). I watch a dipper regularly on the river near where I > live. From certain angles it is almost impossible to see. especially when > it is stands on small stones that have splashing white water running over > them. it is a good example of plumage acting as camoflage. I have soft > spot for dippers. A missionary once had a problem translating 'though your sins be scarlet, they will become as white as snow' for an equatorial African tribe who had never seen snow (for obvious reasons). He replaced 'snow' with a flock of local pure white birds. As your story is in Wales, how about a flock of sheep? (I can't think of any local white Welsh birds :-( ). -- Edwin Hutton (use edDOThuttonATlsaevaPOINTuklinuxSTOPnet for email) ....Grant we beseech Thee that, ... during our journeys through the Internet we will ... treat with charity and patience all those souls whom we encounter. Amen.From <http://www.catholic.org/isidore> |
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On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 19:26:17 in uk.rec.natural-history e.hutton wrote:
>local white Welsh birds contradiction in terms... Welsh birds wear red... birds that wear white are usually migrants... -- Nogood Boyo |
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"Nogood Boyo" <NogoodBoyo@bwllfa.co.uk> wrote in message news:rmOyfPBlOMHDFwJH@ynystawe.demon.co.uk... > On Mon, 5 Sep 2005 at 19:26:17 in uk.rec.natural-history e.hutton wrote: >>local white Welsh birds > > contradiction in terms... Welsh birds wear red... birds that wear white > are usually migrants... > > -- > Nogood Boyo LoL |
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"e.hutton" <caterpillar@amuscaria.invalid> wrote in message news:1920630.lxDYX5A48k@localhost... > SpiKe<no-one@home.com.<invalid> wrote on Tuesday 30 Aug 2005 1:41 pm: > >> >> "Nogood Boyo" <NogoodBoyo@bwllfa.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:jxLAKuE$e6EDFwx+@ynystawe.demon.co.uk... >>> On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 at 21:56:38 in uk.rec.natural-history SpiKe wrote: >>>>No it doesn't but it has to be rural/rustic/natural the person must use >>>>an expression that would be familiar to him but not necessarily to the >>>>reader (hence 'as white as'). And it is set in a Welsh valley so a >>>>mountain hare or >>>>ptarmigan wouldn't be in his experience. Maybe a hare would but I hadn't >>>>pictured it in the setting : too low down in the valley. >>> >>> does it have to have pleasant connotations..? >>> >>> a new lamb >>> blackthorn blossom >>> the head on a pint of SA >>> the belly of a fresh run sewin >>> the bleached skull of a sheep >>> sheep's wool caught in barbed wire >>> the throat of a dipper >>> seagulls over the tip >>> >>> -- >>> Nogood Boyo >> >> I had thought of a sheep skull and a dippers bib but thought it may be a >> little obscure. not everyone knows what a dipper is (very elusive bird >> that is hard to see). I watch a dipper regularly on the river near where >> I >> live. From certain angles it is almost impossible to see. especially when >> it is stands on small stones that have splashing white water running over >> them. it is a good example of plumage acting as camoflage. I have soft >> spot for dippers. > > A missionary once had a problem translating > 'though your sins be scarlet, they will become as white > as snow' > for an equatorial African tribe who had never seen > snow (for obvious reasons). He replaced 'snow' with > a flock of local pure white birds. As your story is > in Wales, how about a flock of sheep? (I can't think > of any local white Welsh birds :-( ). > -- Too late now ...... I went with barn owl. |
