Bibio

Can anyone please name a Bibio species with a clear red/orange band
around the body - almost certainly the natural fly that has given rise
to the angler's Bibio pattern:

http://tinyurl.com/hsza9

I saw a lot on 22nd, close to St Mark's day, but the only pics I can
find of St Mark's Fly, Bibio Marci, lack the red band around the middle.

(It's definitely not Bibio Hortulans, which has a red thorax.)

--
Nogood Boyo

The bibio fly 'aint an exact copy of any insect! It's just a fishermans
interpretation of a fly, insect or nymph that catches trout;-)

JS

On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 at 10:32:53 in uk.rec.natural-history J Smith wrote:
>The bibio fly 'aint an exact copy of any insect! It's just a fishermans
>interpretation of a fly, insect or nymph that catches trout;-)
>
Many anglers' flies are based on and are meant to imitate naturals. Not
exact copies, of course, but containing some essential features which
will cause them to be mistaken for the natural fly when trout are
feeding on them. The Bibio is one.

The angler's Bibio is usually taken as a representation of the Heather
Fly, which is similar to Bibio Marci but has red legs. The fly I saw on
Saturday was such an obvious match for the artificial (much better than
the Heather Fly) that I want to identify it. And I can't find it in the
books. Annoyingly, I didn't keep a specimen to photograph it and it was
80 miles away, or I'd go back..!

--
Nogood Boyo

Nogood Boyo Pontificated:

"Many anglers' flies are based on and are meant to imitate naturals.
Not
exact copies, of course, but containing some essential features which
will cause them to be mistaken for the natural fly when trout are
feeding on them. The Bibio is one."

No it 'aint! It's just a representation & could be a representation of
a Chironomid in a trouts eyes

The angler's Bibio is usually taken as a representation of the Heather
Fly, which is similar to Bibio Marci but has red legs.

Proves my point then a representation!

"The fly I saw on
Saturday was such an obvious match for the artificial (much better than

the Heather Fly) that I want to identify it. And I can't find it in
the
books. "

And if you look there are quite a few fly interpretations that are
classed as Bibio. Although just an interpretation of the first!

JS

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Nogood Boyo	Bibio Can anyone please name a Bibio species with a clear red/orange band around the body - almost certainly the natural fly that has given rise to the angler's Bibio pattern: http://tinyurl.com/hsza9 I saw a lot on 22nd, close to St Mark's day, but the only pics I can find of St Mark's Fly, Bibio Marci, lack the red band around the middle. (It's definitely not Bibio Hortulans, which has a red thorax.) -- Nogood Boyo

	#2
J Smith	Re: Bibio The bibio fly 'aint an exact copy of any insect! It's just a fishermans interpretation of a fly, insect or nymph that catches trout;-) JS

	#3
Nogood Boyo	Re: Bibio On Mon, 24 Apr 2006 at 10:32:53 in uk.rec.natural-history J Smith wrote: >The bibio fly 'aint an exact copy of any insect! It's just a fishermans >interpretation of a fly, insect or nymph that catches trout;-) > Many anglers' flies are based on and are meant to imitate naturals. Not exact copies, of course, but containing some essential features which will cause them to be mistaken for the natural fly when trout are feeding on them. The Bibio is one. The angler's Bibio is usually taken as a representation of the Heather Fly, which is similar to Bibio Marci but has red legs. The fly I saw on Saturday was such an obvious match for the artificial (much better than the Heather Fly) that I want to identify it. And I can't find it in the books. Annoyingly, I didn't keep a specimen to photograph it and it was 80 miles away, or I'd go back..! -- Nogood Boyo

	#4
J Smith	Re: Bibio Nogood Boyo Pontificated: "Many anglers' flies are based on and are meant to imitate naturals. Not exact copies, of course, but containing some essential features which will cause them to be mistaken for the natural fly when trout are feeding on them. The Bibio is one." No it 'aint! It's just a representation & could be a representation of a Chironomid in a trouts eyes The angler's Bibio is usually taken as a representation of the Heather Fly, which is similar to Bibio Marci but has red legs. Proves my point then a representation! "The fly I saw on Saturday was such an obvious match for the artificial (much better than the Heather Fly) that I want to identify it. And I can't find it in the books. " And if you look there are quite a few fly interpretations that are classed as Bibio. Although just an interpretation of the first! JS