Help a cat, won't you?

Here's the deal. Got a stray old cat I rescued. Already blind in one eye
due to an earlier infection.

Cat now has some ear infection with drainage and bad smell. Shakes his
head and it is causing the animal some discomfort.

Won't go into the reasons, but a vet is out. I have some old geocillin
tabs that worked quite well on his earlier eye infection, but I couldn't
get him to swallow the tabs.

cat will either die :-( or I will help him.

My question: Can the tabs be fractioned per body weight (as I did
previously for the eye-about 1/5 tablet of 382 mg carbenicillin AND
dissolved in water so as to administer into ear by eyedropper?

Fillers for these tablets (from PDR) state: carbenicillin is freely
soluble in water, contains 382 mg carbenicillin, 118 mg indanyl sodium
ester, 23 mg sodium. Inert ingredients are glycine; magnesium stearate and
sodium lauryl sulfate.

you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats.
use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an
antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be
alright for cats at :-

http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html

"Animals Friend" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
news:4H7YND2Y37843.0614814815@Gilgamesh-frog.org...
> Here's the deal. Got a stray old cat I rescued. Already blind in one eye
> due to an earlier infection.
>
> Cat now has some ear infection with drainage and bad smell. Shakes his
> head and it is causing the animal some discomfort.
>
> Won't go into the reasons, but a vet is out. I have some old geocillin
> tabs that worked quite well on his earlier eye infection, but I couldn't
> get him to swallow the tabs.
>
> cat will either die :-( or I will help him.
>
> My question: Can the tabs be fractioned per body weight (as I did
> previously for the eye-about 1/5 tablet of 382 mg carbenicillin AND
> dissolved in water so as to administer into ear by eyedropper?
>
> Fillers for these tablets (from PDR) state: carbenicillin is freely
> soluble in water, contains 382 mg carbenicillin, 118 mg indanyl sodium
> ester, 23 mg sodium. Inert ingredients are glycine; magnesium stearate and
> sodium lauryl sulfate.
>
>
>

Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply.
Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some
antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more
can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly.

===========================================
jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote:

you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats.
use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an
antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be
alright for cats at :-

http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html

On 11 Aug 2003, Animals Friend wrote:

> Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply.
> Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some
> antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more
> can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly.

*sigh* No, you can't. If you would write to me I could help you. Is
that an unsensible reply? I'd like to speak to you directly about it.

Dee

"Animals Friend" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
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> Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply.
> Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some
> antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more
> can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear
directly.
>
> ===========================================
> jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote:
>
> you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet
rats.
> use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an
> antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be
> alright for cats at :-
>
>
> http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html
>

hi again,

not so sure about the geocillin, use the net to do some research on it.
also find which anti biotics you can use on cats and which will be effective
for this particular condition.

>
>

In alt.drugs.chemistry Animals Friend <Anonymous-Remailer@see.comment.header> wrote:
> Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply.
> Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some
> antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more
> can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly.

> ===========================================
> jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote:

> you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats.
> use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an
> antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be
> alright for cats at :-

I don't know why you'd want to put it in the ear, better to squirt it down
the throat. I'd use something like hydrogen peroxide in the ear itself. But
anyway -- at least in the US -- I can get almost any vet antibiotics,
inoculations for dogs and cats, etc. at the local FleetFarm store. Including
syringes -- no questions asked. And there are also places on the net
that sell them. You might also want to consult a Merck manual for animals,
you should be able to get that at any college library. Or maybe on the net.

--
Harmon Seaver

But
> anyway -- at least in the US -- I can get almost any vet antibiotics,
> inoculations for dogs and cats, etc. at the local FleetFarm store.
Including
> syringes -- no questions asked.

Depends on the state. Some states list needles and syringes as controlled
substances. And not all meds are available at the retail level in all
states. Best to check your store first before assuming it's available
nationwide.

-Sharon

Thanks for the good information on the Merck Manual (didn't know
they had one for animals) and the good logic of your reply. There
is entirely too much regulation in both human and animal drugs and
despite all the bull about not wanting to cause accidents, etc.,
alot of this regulation is purely profit driven.

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	#1
Animals Friend	Help a cat, won't you? Here's the deal. Got a stray old cat I rescued. Already blind in one eye due to an earlier infection. Cat now has some ear infection with drainage and bad smell. Shakes his head and it is causing the animal some discomfort. Won't go into the reasons, but a vet is out. I have some old geocillin tabs that worked quite well on his earlier eye infection, but I couldn't get him to swallow the tabs. cat will either die :-( or I will help him. My question: Can the tabs be fractioned per body weight (as I did previously for the eye-about 1/5 tablet of 382 mg carbenicillin AND dissolved in water so as to administer into ear by eyedropper? Fillers for these tablets (from PDR) state: carbenicillin is freely soluble in water, contains 382 mg carbenicillin, 118 mg indanyl sodium ester, 23 mg sodium. Inert ingredients are glycine; magnesium stearate and sodium lauryl sulfate.

	#2
Jeremy Watts	Re: Help a cat, won't you? you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats. use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be alright for cats at :- http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html "Animals Friend" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message news:4H7YND2Y37843.0614814815@Gilgamesh-frog.org... > Here's the deal. Got a stray old cat I rescued. Already blind in one eye > due to an earlier infection. > > Cat now has some ear infection with drainage and bad smell. Shakes his > head and it is causing the animal some discomfort. > > Won't go into the reasons, but a vet is out. I have some old geocillin > tabs that worked quite well on his earlier eye infection, but I couldn't > get him to swallow the tabs. > > cat will either die :-( or I will help him. > > My question: Can the tabs be fractioned per body weight (as I did > previously for the eye-about 1/5 tablet of 382 mg carbenicillin AND > dissolved in water so as to administer into ear by eyedropper? > > Fillers for these tablets (from PDR) state: carbenicillin is freely > soluble in water, contains 382 mg carbenicillin, 118 mg indanyl sodium > ester, 23 mg sodium. Inert ingredients are glycine; magnesium stearate and > sodium lauryl sulfate. > > >

	#3
Animals Friend	Re: Help a cat, would you? Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply. Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly. =========================================== jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote: you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats. use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be alright for cats at :- http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html

	#4
Dee	Re: Help a cat, would you? On 11 Aug 2003, Animals Friend wrote: > Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply. > Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some > antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more > can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly. sigh No, you can't. If you would write to me I could help you. Is that an unsensible reply? I'd like to speak to you directly about it. Dee

	#5
Jeremy Watts	Re: Help a cat, would you? "Animals Friend" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message news:9TVUAR5937844.103125@Gilgamesh-frog.org... > Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply. > Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some > antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more > can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly. > > =========================================== > jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote: > > you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats. > use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an > antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be > alright for cats at :- > > > http://www.nepigeonsupplies.com/product1.html > hi again, not so sure about the geocillin, use the net to do some research on it. also find which anti biotics you can use on cats and which will be effective for this particular condition. > >

	#6
hseaver@nospamcybershamanix.com	Re: Help a cat, would you? In alt.drugs.chemistry Animals Friend <Anonymous-Remailer@see.comment.header> wrote: > Thanks Jeremy, your the only person who had a sensible reply. > Unfortunately, I know that geocillin will work on this cat; some > antibiotics are bad for cats; I don't know which ones. My question is more > can I dilute the geocillin with water and administer into the ear directly. > =========================================== > jeremy.watts70@ntlworld.com wrote: > you can use human anti biotics on cats - i've even used them on my pet rats. > use say a 1/20 of the dose then gradually increase it. you can order an > antibiotic called 'baytril' which is used to treat pidgeons and should be > alright for cats at :- I don't know why you'd want to put it in the ear, better to squirt it down the throat. I'd use something like hydrogen peroxide in the ear itself. But anyway -- at least in the US -- I can get almost any vet antibiotics, inoculations for dogs and cats, etc. at the local FleetFarm store. Including syringes -- no questions asked. And there are also places on the net that sell them. You might also want to consult a Merck manual for animals, you should be able to get that at any college library. Or maybe on the net. -- Harmon Seaver

	#7
Sharon	Re: Help a cat, would you? But > anyway -- at least in the US -- I can get almost any vet antibiotics, > inoculations for dogs and cats, etc. at the local FleetFarm store. Including > syringes -- no questions asked. Depends on the state. Some states list needles and syringes as controlled substances. And not all meds are available at the retail level in all states. Best to check your store first before assuming it's available nationwide. -Sharon

	#8
CatsFriend	Re: Help a cat, would you? Thanks for the good information on the Merck Manual (didn't know they had one for animals) and the good logic of your reply. There is entirely too much regulation in both human and animal drugs and despite all the bull about not wanting to cause accidents, etc., alot of this regulation is purely profit driven. on 14 Aug 2003, hseaver@nospamcybershamanix.com wrote in news:wZL_a.7164$Ih1.2373132@newssrv26.news.prodigy .com: > ews2me.com!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-atl-nf1!newsfeed.ear