Re: Sun Club in the New Forest

<njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Tim Forcer <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>> njl73@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Look at the extract above, and earlier posts
>>> by this guy if that is not enough. Would
>>> anyone want him in their club whatever his
>>> partnership status or the club rules?
>>
>> Several posters have encountered this person at clubs and
>> swims. None have found him offensive in person (according to
>> their posts, anyway).
>>
>> Perhaps he is inoffensive in person BECAUSE he uses Usenet to
>> vent his spleen, ire and aggression?
>
> This guy is liable to say things such as:
>
> > Just FOAD you nasty little BIGOT, what ever your name is.
>
> and you are happy with him in your club?
>
> And to make it worse, he says this and other rather unpleasant things
> to me and then he says:
>
> <snip very personal attack>
>
> I think that my reply was rather mild considering what he said to me.
> At least my reply used no foul language. Is the word "obnoxious"
> inappropriate for someone who calls others: "f***wit"?
>

No, you just called me, and all other single males, a pervert who likes
gawping at everyone. If that is not being obnoxious what the hell is !

"Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message news:<uP%Ma.45303$9C6.2208396@wards.force9.net>...
> <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:8632bee3.0307030946.1dbc6a84@posting.google.c om
> > Tim Forcer <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
> > news:<3F03D7B4.DC0964AD@ecs.soton.ac.uk>...
> >> njl73@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ...
> >>>
> >>> Look at the extract above, and earlier posts
> >>> by this guy if that is not enough. Would
> >>> anyone want him in their club whatever his
> >>> partnership status or the club rules?
> >>
> >> Several posters have encountered this person at clubs and
> >> swims. None have found him offensive in person (according to
> >> their posts, anyway).
> >>
> >> Perhaps he is inoffensive in person BECAUSE he uses Usenet to
> >> vent his spleen, ire and aggression?
> >
> > This guy is liable to say things such as:
> >
> > > Just FOAD you nasty little BIGOT, what ever your name is.
> >
> > and you are happy with him in your club?
> >
> > And to make it worse, he says this and other rather unpleasant things
> > to me and then he says:
> >
> > <snip very personal attack>
> >
> > I think that my reply was rather mild considering what he said to me.
> > At least my reply used no foul language. Is the word "obnoxious"
> > inappropriate for someone who calls others: "f***wit"?
> >
>
> No, you just called me, and all other single males, a pervert who likes
> gawping at everyone. If that is not being obnoxious what the hell is !

No I did not. The most I said was that accompanied men were less
likely to be gawpers. I never said that all single men were gawpers
and I have never used the word pervert.

Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to
them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who
prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I prefer
them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your way?
What's wrong with choice?

If single men are not a problem then explain the many very negative
reports (not by me) of the UK beaches.

N

"Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
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> <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> <snip>
>
> >
> > Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to
> > them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who
> > prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I prefer
> > them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your way?
> > What's wrong with choice?
>
> Because they are public clubs, they are breaking the law if they advertise
> and then refuse entry, or worse still use phrases like 'Couples and
families
> only' or 'We are a family club' As I have said before, I have no problem
if
> a club wishes to restrict their membership but they will have to be a
> private club and thus not do any advertising
This sounds like you're on a crusade. You accept they don't want you but
they must stop advertising for new members to shut you up. What difference
does it make to you? Either way you're not getting in.

.. ISTM that you want clubs to be
> able to discriminate and be able to advertise, sorry but it's got to be
one
> or the other not both - that's the law...
It's the law so it must be right then. I take it you will be just as
vociferous in your support of all aspects of the SOB regardless of its final
wording.

Rgds

Andy R

"Andy R" <andyr@ukhome.net> wrote in message
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> "Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:_GxNa.45652$9C6.2250738@wards.force9.net...
>> <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:8632bee3.0307050107.561cdcf7@posting.google.c om
>> <snip>
>>
>>>
>>> Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to
>>> them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who
>>> prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I
>>> prefer them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your
>>> way? What's wrong with choice?
>>
>> Because they are public clubs, they are breaking the law if they
>> advertise and then refuse entry, or worse still use phrases like
>> 'Couples and families only' or 'We are a family club' As I have said
>> before, I have no problem if a club wishes to restrict their
>> membership but they will have to be a private club and thus not do
>> any advertising
> This sounds like you're on a crusade. You accept they don't want you
> but they must stop advertising for new members to shut you up. What
> difference does it make to you? Either way you're not getting in.

Says who ? You, the club (which ever one you mean) or the law ?...
(besides you don't even know if I do belong to a club already)

>
> . ISTM that you want clubs to be
>> able to discriminate and be able to advertise, sorry but it's got to
>> be one or the other not both - that's the law...
> It's the law so it must be right then. I take it you will be just as
> vociferous in your support of all aspects of the SOB regardless of
> its final wording.
>

Yes I respect the law (but that does not preclude wanting / trying to get
what I think as bad law changed), do you ?...

	#1
Jerry.	Re: Sun Club in the New Forest <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:8632bee3.0307030946.1dbc6a84@posting.google.c om > Tim Forcer <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message > news:<3F03D7B4.DC0964AD@ecs.soton.ac.uk>... >> njl73@hotmail.com wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> >>> Look at the extract above, and earlier posts >>> by this guy if that is not enough. Would >>> anyone want him in their club whatever his >>> partnership status or the club rules? >> >> Several posters have encountered this person at clubs and >> swims. None have found him offensive in person (according to >> their posts, anyway). >> >> Perhaps he is inoffensive in person BECAUSE he uses Usenet to >> vent his spleen, ire and aggression? > > This guy is liable to say things such as: > > > Just FOAD you nasty little BIGOT, what ever your name is. > > and you are happy with him in your club? > > And to make it worse, he says this and other rather unpleasant things > to me and then he says: > > <snip very personal attack> > > I think that my reply was rather mild considering what he said to me. > At least my reply used no foul language. Is the word "obnoxious" > inappropriate for someone who calls others: "f***wit"? > No, you just called me, and all other single males, a pervert who likes gawping at everyone. If that is not being obnoxious what the hell is !

	#2
njl73@hotmail.com	Re: Sun Club in the New Forest "Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message news:<uP%Ma.45303$9C6.2208396@wards.force9.net>... > <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:8632bee3.0307030946.1dbc6a84@posting.google.c om > > Tim Forcer <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message > > news:<3F03D7B4.DC0964AD@ecs.soton.ac.uk>... > >> njl73@hotmail.com wrote: > >>> > >>> ... > >>> > >>> Look at the extract above, and earlier posts > >>> by this guy if that is not enough. Would > >>> anyone want him in their club whatever his > >>> partnership status or the club rules? > >> > >> Several posters have encountered this person at clubs and > >> swims. None have found him offensive in person (according to > >> their posts, anyway). > >> > >> Perhaps he is inoffensive in person BECAUSE he uses Usenet to > >> vent his spleen, ire and aggression? > > > > This guy is liable to say things such as: > > > > > Just FOAD you nasty little BIGOT, what ever your name is. > > > > and you are happy with him in your club? > > > > And to make it worse, he says this and other rather unpleasant things > > to me and then he says: > > > > <snip very personal attack> > > > > I think that my reply was rather mild considering what he said to me. > > At least my reply used no foul language. Is the word "obnoxious" > > inappropriate for someone who calls others: "f***wit"? > > > > No, you just called me, and all other single males, a pervert who likes > gawping at everyone. If that is not being obnoxious what the hell is ! No I did not. The most I said was that accompanied men were less likely to be gawpers. I never said that all single men were gawpers and I have never used the word pervert. Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I prefer them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your way? What's wrong with choice? If single men are not a problem then explain the many very negative reports (not by me) of the UK beaches. N

	#3
Andy R	Re: Sun Club in the New Forest "Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message news:_GxNa.45652$9C6.2250738@wards.force9.net... > <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:8632bee3.0307050107.561cdcf7@posting.google.c om > <snip> > > > > > Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to > > them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who > > prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I prefer > > them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your way? > > What's wrong with choice? > > Because they are public clubs, they are breaking the law if they advertise > and then refuse entry, or worse still use phrases like 'Couples and families > only' or 'We are a family club' As I have said before, I have no problem if > a club wishes to restrict their membership but they will have to be a > private club and thus not do any advertising This sounds like you're on a crusade. You accept they don't want you but they must stop advertising for new members to shut you up. What difference does it make to you? Either way you're not getting in. .. ISTM that you want clubs to be > able to discriminate and be able to advertise, sorry but it's got to be one > or the other not both - that's the law... It's the law so it must be right then. I take it you will be just as vociferous in your support of all aspects of the SOB regardless of its final wording. Rgds Andy R

	#4
Jerry.	Re: Sun Club in the New Forest "Andy R" <andyr@ukhome.net> wrote in message news:bebb8n$33lbk$1@ID-121899.news.dfncis.de > "Jerry." <usenet@scarts.f9.co.uk> wrote in message > news:_GxNa.45652$9C6.2250738@wards.force9.net... >> <njl73@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:8632bee3.0307050107.561cdcf7@posting.google.c om >> <snip> >> >>> >>> Icarus says that there are clubs which accept single men so go to >>> them. Leave the couple and family orientated clubs to those who >>> prefer them. I am not saying that all clubs must be the way I >>> prefer them. Why do you feel you can demand that they are all your >>> way? What's wrong with choice? >> >> Because they are public clubs, they are breaking the law if they >> advertise and then refuse entry, or worse still use phrases like >> 'Couples and families only' or 'We are a family club' As I have said >> before, I have no problem if a club wishes to restrict their >> membership but they will have to be a private club and thus not do >> any advertising > This sounds like you're on a crusade. You accept they don't want you > but they must stop advertising for new members to shut you up. What > difference does it make to you? Either way you're not getting in. Says who ? You, the club (which ever one you mean) or the law ?... (besides you don't even know if I do belong to a club already) > > . ISTM that you want clubs to be >> able to discriminate and be able to advertise, sorry but it's got to >> be one or the other not both - that's the law... > It's the law so it must be right then. I take it you will be just as > vociferous in your support of all aspects of the SOB regardless of > its final wording. > Yes I respect the law (but that does not preclude wanting / trying to get what I think as bad law changed), do you ?...