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Re: Paying in Euros
Richard T wrote:
> to equate adopting the euro as another step towards integration with > Europe little realising that we're already integrated with Europe. > Richard T If only we WERE integrated with Europe!!! The problem is that we are adrift in the mid-Atlantic, belonging to neither the Americans nor the Europeans and most folks think that is dandy! Unfortunately, since we fully belong to neither continet, we have the worst of both worlds, not the best of both as the Daily Mail and Sun imagine. Simon. |
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Re: Paying in Euros
On Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:44:51 +0100, Simon <Heysford@NotYahoo.com>
wrote: >Richard T wrote: >> to equate adopting the euro as another step towards integration with >> Europe little realising that we're already integrated with Europe. >> Richard T >If only we WERE integrated with Europe!!! The problem is that we are >adrift in the mid-Atlantic, belonging to neither the Americans nor the >Europeans and most folks think that is dandy! I'm not sure how being 40km from mainland Europe and 4500km from America qualifies as being "mid-Atlantic". Richard T |
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"Simon" <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote in message news:46a931f0$0$31727$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk... > Richard T wrote: >> to equate adopting the euro as another step towards integration with >> Europe little realising that we're already integrated with Europe. >> Richard T > If only we WERE integrated with Europe!!! The problem is that we are > adrift in the mid-Atlantic, belonging to neither the Americans nor the > Europeans and most folks think that is dandy! Unfortunately, since we > fully belong to neither continet, we have the worst of both worlds, not > the best of both as the Daily Mail and Sun imagine. > Certainly as an expat now living in the eurozone I look back at the UK as being in a sort of not very nice limbo, overtaxed, over regulated and as you say getting the worst of all worlds. -- Chris, West Cork, Ireland. Festina lente |
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"Cerumen" <cerumen.chris@gmail.com> wrote in message news:f8c4c0$v10$2@registered.motzarella.org... > > "Simon" <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote in message > news:46a931f0$0$31727$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk... >> Richard T wrote: >>> to equate adopting the euro as another step towards integration with >>> Europe little realising that we're already integrated with Europe. >>> Richard T >> If only we WERE integrated with Europe!!! The problem is that we are >> adrift in the mid-Atlantic, belonging to neither the Americans nor the >> Europeans and most folks think that is dandy! Unfortunately, since we >> fully belong to neither continet, we have the worst of both worlds, not >> the best of both as the Daily Mail and Sun imagine. >> > Certainly as an expat now living in the eurozone I look back at the UK as > being in a sort of not very nice limbo, overtaxed, over regulated and as > you say getting the worst of all worlds. > > > -- > Chris, West Cork, Ireland. > Festina lente It is all very well making statements like "overtaxed, over regulated" but you have not listed the countries in Europe who are taxed and/or regulated less. Without this your statement is meaningless. I could say that I do not believe you but again that would mean nothing. So give me a few facts. Dave. |
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"Dave D" <parNOSPAMmiter@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:wkiqi.1820$6z6.1794@newsfe1-gui.ntli.net... > > "Cerumen" <cerumen.chris@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:f8c4c0$v10$2@registered.motzarella.org... >> >> "Simon" <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:46a931f0$0$31727$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk... >>> Richard T wrote: >>>> to equate adopting the euro as another step towards integration with >>>> Europe little realising that we're already integrated with Europe. >>>> Richard T >>> If only we WERE integrated with Europe!!! The problem is that we are >>> adrift in the mid-Atlantic, belonging to neither the Americans nor the >>> Europeans and most folks think that is dandy! Unfortunately, since we >>> fully belong to neither continet, we have the worst of both worlds, not >>> the best of both as the Daily Mail and Sun imagine. >>> >> Certainly as an expat now living in the eurozone I look back at the UK as >> being in a sort of not very nice limbo, overtaxed, over regulated and as >> you say getting the worst of all worlds. >> >> >> -- >> Chris, West Cork, Ireland. >> Festina lente > It is all very well making statements like "overtaxed, over regulated" but > you have not listed the countries in Europe who are taxed and/or regulated > less. Without this your statement is meaningless. I could say that I do > not believe you but again that would mean nothing. So give me a few > facts. > We pay no tax to anybody in order to live in our own houses for one. That is no property rates community charge, rates, poll tax or whatever name it is now over there. -- Chris, West Cork, Ireland. Festina lente |
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Dave D wrote:
> "Cerumen" <cerumen.chris@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:f8cl3g$8b2$1@registered.motzarella.org... >>>> Certainly as an expat now living in the eurozone I look back at the UK >>>> as being in a sort of not very nice limbo, overtaxed, over regulated and >>>> as you say getting the worst of all worlds. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Chris, West Cork, Ireland. >>>> Festina lente >>> It is all very well making statements like "overtaxed, over regulated" >>> but you have not listed the countries in Europe who are taxed and/or >>> regulated less. Without this your statement is meaningless. I could say >>> that I do not believe you but again that would mean nothing. So give me >>> a few facts. >>> >> We pay no tax to anybody in order to live in our own houses for one. That >> is no property rates community charge, rates, poll tax or whatever name >> it is now over there. >> > > > Well if you pay no tax and you say 'my ex wife lives free of income tax' > then who pays for the 'better schools' you were telling us about? B The EU? |
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"Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:f8cp9d$bil$1@aioe.org... >> I have no idea but it's not me anyway. > > Maybe it is paid out of the saving to the economy of having a minimal > defence force, whereas the UK spends a large part of the GDP in paying its > citizens to fight for the USA's causes (and a few others). > Well that certainly must be a big saving although I'm no economist and have no figures available to back that up. We do have a higher VAT rate but that is only applied to non essentials and in a way avoidable in that there is no VAT on real essentials but even with that our road fuel prices are substabtially lower than in Uk. When my kids were in school there were charges in that we had to buy text books which I assume you don't still in UK? We have no NHS as such in that health care is means tested but we do have community rated voluntary health insurance which costs the same per month regardless of age. It's impossible to make firm statements about better/worse for everybody but in my case I find it better in many ways than UK. -- Chris, West Cork, Ireland. Festina lente |
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Richard T wrote:
> I'm not sure how being 40km from mainland Europe and 4500km from > America qualifies as being "mid-Atlantic". > Richard T If you wish to play semantics on the well known understanding of 'mid-Atlantic' - then do go ahead. I have found that people who have travelled widely in the world find the UK much closer to the US in social, economic and, sometimes, political terms than a geography lesson shows. Simon |
