Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't considerthemselves as Naturists?

Pete Knight wrote:
> The term 'Clothing Optional Lifestyle' is widely favoured in the US,
> it would encompass nudists, naturists and clothes free holiday(ists),
> but the 'Central Council for Clothing Optional Lifestyle or CCCOL
> might be too burdensome.
But Clothing Optional Lifestyle (COL) would state clearly what the
organisation was about.

I agree that baggage tends to be passed on down and the problem of the
club-of-clubs is not easily solved in the short term.

As I have said before, waiting for BN to die a natural death and then
starting a new organisation is a liklihood.

BNChange notwithstanding
Simon.

On Jul 18, 2:42 pm, Simon <Heysf...@NotYahoo.com> wrote:
> Pete Knight wrote:
> > The term 'Clothing Optional Lifestyle' is widely favoured in the US,
> > it would encompass nudists, naturists and clothes free holiday(ists),
> > but the 'Central Council for Clothing Optional Lifestyle or CCCOL
> > might be too burdensome.
>
> But Clothing Optional Lifestyle (COL) would state clearly what the
> organisation was about.

It seems to encompass more ideals, but will it attract those that Reg
referred to in his original post.

>
> I agree that baggage tends to be passed on down and the problem of the
> club-of-clubs is not easily solved in the short term.

The unwillingness to accept that there is anything other than 'social
club' naturism is BN's shortcoming, there are hundreds, if not
thousands of freehikers, beach goers who feel that BN has nothing to
offer them, so why waste the subscription, it is up to those managing
BN on our behalf to make the organisation appealing to a wider
audience.

>
> As I have said before, waiting for BN to die a natural death and then
> starting a new organisation is a liklihood.

So what happens in the vacuum left behind BN's demise without a
credible organisation ready to pick up where BN leaves off, it could
take month's, even years for an acceptable replacement.

Pete Knight

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Simon	Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't considerthemselves as Naturists? Pete Knight wrote: > The term 'Clothing Optional Lifestyle' is widely favoured in the US, > it would encompass nudists, naturists and clothes free holiday(ists), > but the 'Central Council for Clothing Optional Lifestyle or CCCOL > might be too burdensome. But Clothing Optional Lifestyle (COL) would state clearly what the organisation was about. I agree that baggage tends to be passed on down and the problem of the club-of-clubs is not easily solved in the short term. As I have said before, waiting for BN to die a natural death and then starting a new organisation is a liklihood. BNChange notwithstanding Simon.

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Pete Knight	Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists? On Jul 18, 2:42 pm, Simon <Heysf...@NotYahoo.com> wrote: > Pete Knight wrote: > > The term 'Clothing Optional Lifestyle' is widely favoured in the US, > > it would encompass nudists, naturists and clothes free holiday(ists), > > but the 'Central Council for Clothing Optional Lifestyle or CCCOL > > might be too burdensome. > > But Clothing Optional Lifestyle (COL) would state clearly what the > organisation was about. It seems to encompass more ideals, but will it attract those that Reg referred to in his original post. > > I agree that baggage tends to be passed on down and the problem of the > club-of-clubs is not easily solved in the short term. The unwillingness to accept that there is anything other than 'social club' naturism is BN's shortcoming, there are hundreds, if not thousands of freehikers, beach goers who feel that BN has nothing to offer them, so why waste the subscription, it is up to those managing BN on our behalf to make the organisation appealing to a wider audience. > > As I have said before, waiting for BN to die a natural death and then > starting a new organisation is a liklihood. So what happens in the vacuum left behind BN's demise without a credible organisation ready to pick up where BN leaves off, it could take month's, even years for an acceptable replacement. Pete Knight