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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
One major difference between people who call themselves naturists &
those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & very quickly got dressed & fled! Now, I can understand how it may be awkward for some people if their bosses find out (though it's not the big controversy that so many seem to think it is), but why do so many naturists find it hard to tell their families / neighbours / friends down the pub / etc what they get up to? So, just maybe the 'non- naturists' who occasionally strip off see 'naturism' as some sort of secret society like the freemasons? (I remember when I was a member of a club being very strictly told that I should never ever tell anyone on the 'outside' the names of people who are members of the club!). I know my 'non-naturist' friends see the fact that they strip off occasionally to be no big deal at all, & certainly nothing they can't mention to everyone else. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
<peterchecksfield@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. Since I have never been a member of a club, and do not keep the whole thing secret, presumably I'm not a "true" naturist? If that really is the reason that many casual "strippers off" object to the label "naturist" I would suggest that they are seriously out of date with what they think a "naturist" is. ? David. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 14 Jul, 14:49, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > > > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > > Since I have never been a member of a club, and do not keep the whole thing > secret, presumably I'm not a "true" naturist? > > If that really is the reason that many casual "strippers off" object to the > label "naturist" I would suggest that they are seriously out of date with > what they think a "naturist" is. ? > > David. Another possible reason why these younger people don't identify with them is that (at Botany Bay at least) almost all of the 'naturists' are (a) male, & (b) at or near pensionable age. Maybe if they saw more females / families / younger people then they'd feel differently. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
<peterchecksfield@googlemail.com> wrote in message news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & > one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who > was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & > very quickly got dressed & fled! > Snip < Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet them? |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 15 Jul, 07:17, "Duncan Heenan"
<pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > > > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > > I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & > > one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who > > was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & > > very quickly got dressed & fled! > > Snip < > > Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on > a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely > to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet > them? His neighbours were just walking along the beach with their dogs, & were not stripped off. It's not only naturists who go on naturist beaches... |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On Jul 15, 7:17 am, "Duncan Heenan"
<pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... > > > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > > I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & > > one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who > > was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & > > very quickly got dressed & fled! > > Snip < > > Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on > a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely > to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet > them? Any idea what he was actually frightened of? |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 15 Jul, 15:23, Duncan Heenan <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> On Jul 15, 7:17 am, "Duncan Heenan" > > > > > > <pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > > >news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googleg roups.com... > > > > One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > > > those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > > > course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > > > keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > > > I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & > > > one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who > > > was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & > > > very quickly got dressed & fled! > > > Snip < > > > Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on > > a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely > > to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet > > them? > > Any idea what he was actually frightened of?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Being caught naked by his neighbours I guess. How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is one of the big reasons why so little gets done. No-one would be frightened to (say) sign a petition against a tower block being built, but you trying going round a naturist beach & getting people to sign a petition to save the beach.... |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't considerthemselves as Naturists?
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 15 Jul, 15:23, Duncan Heenan <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> On Jul 15, 7:17 am, "Duncan Heenan" >> >> >> >> >> >> <pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>> news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... >>>> One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & >>>> those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of >>>> course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to >>>> keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. >>>> I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & >>>> one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who >>>> was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & >>>> very quickly got dressed & fled! >>>> Snip < >>> Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on >>> a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely >>> to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet >>> them? >> Any idea what he was actually frightened of?- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > Being caught naked by his neighbours I guess. > > How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their > families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is > one of the big reasons why so little gets done. Me? |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 15 Jul, 16:06, marc <initial.surn...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > Me?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Me too, & I gladly have my name & photo in the local press. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On Sun, 15 Jul 2007 07:58:59 -0700, peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
wrote: >How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their >families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? I can - but then I've been in the paper quite a few times as part of the Eastney campaign. -- Cheers Mike http://www.eastneybeach.org.uk |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
"marc" <initial.surname@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:Ac6dncdXt-5jqgfbnZ2dnUVZ8t3inZ2d@bt.com... > peterchecksfield@googlemail.com wrote: >> >> How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their >> families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is >> one of the big reasons why so little gets done. > > Me? And Me. I'll admit, though, that it was a bit of a shock when I first started life-modelling to find friends and neighbours turning up to immortalise my naked body in paint!. IMO it's a pity if naturists won't stand up for themselves simply because they're afraid of being the butt of the joke. Not that I've ever had any problems that way. David. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 15 Jul, 17:02, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> "marc" <initial.surn...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > > news:Ac6dncdXt-5jqgfbnZ2dnUVZ8t3inZ2d@bt.com... > > > peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote: > > >> How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their > >> families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is > >> one of the big reasons why so little gets done. > > > Me? > > And Me. > > I'll admit, though, that it was a bit of a shock when I first started > life-modelling to find friends and neighbours turning up to immortalise my > naked body in paint!. Me too! I've been doing life modelling on & off since 1990, & that's the only time it feels a bit strange (for about 5 minutes anyway!). > > IMO it's a pity if naturists won't stand up for themselves simply because > they're afraid of being the butt of the joke. Not that I've ever had any > problems that way. I'm sure I've been the butt of jokes many times, but not just because of my naturism lol! I guess I'm quite thick-skinned... |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't considerthemselves as Naturists?
Hagar wrote:
> > Duncan Heenan is on a constant power freak mode where he thinks everybody > should see his and his only point of view; David Looser is just a big headed > prat who does not consider anybody other than himself and like Duncan Heenan > thinks that his view is the only one that counts, these people are not > common to the average sun lover, they are exhibitionists and nothing else, > they do not give a dam about other peoples feelings (and examples can be > given from their ill advised previous posts) > So to all those who are new to naturism avoid these like the plague, if you > want good advice contact Andrew Welch at British Naturism, you will get > great advise, impartial advice, and genuine advice > > Evening Bertie! |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12tmi.40916$iE5.32349@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > > they do not give a dam about other peoples feelings (and examples can be > given from their ill advised previous posts) Ok then, let's see these examples. David. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't considerthemselves as Naturists?
Pete Knight wrote:
>> So to all those who are new to naturism avoid these like the plague, if you >> want good advice contact Andrew Welch at British Naturism, you will get >> great advise, impartial advice, and genuine advice > > Isn't it a bit late for the anti-campaign? Since when was the BN EC up to date? |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
There's some interesting (& also some stupid) points being raised
here, but few seem to be trying to answer Reg's question: "How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?" Any ideas anyone? |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
"marc" <initial.surname@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:Ac6dncdXt-5jqgfbnZ2dnUVZ8t3inZ2d@bt.com... > peterchecksfield@googlemail.com wrote: >> On 15 Jul, 15:23, Duncan Heenan <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>> On Jul 15, 7:17 am, "Duncan Heenan" >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> <pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >>>> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message >>>> news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googlegr oups.com... >>>>> One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & >>>>> those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of >>>>> course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to >>>>> keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. >>>>> I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & >>>>> one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who >>>>> was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & >>>>> very quickly got dressed & fled! >>>>> Snip < >>>> Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were >>>> also on >>>> a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly >>>> likely >>>> to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to >>>> meet >>>> them? >>> Any idea what he was actually frightened of?- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >> Being caught naked by his neighbours I guess. >> >> How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their >> families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is >> one of the big reasons why so little gets done. > > Me? Me too. Some years ago, when we as a family were at one of our regular naturist swims in Tewkesbury where we lived at the time, 'textile' friends of ours walked in, obviously very nervous. Seeing us stripping off in the changing room, they came over and seemed mightily relieved to see people there whom they considered 'normal folk' (I don't know what they were expecting). They commented that they hadn't known we were naturists, and it was their first time trying it in the UK, though they had tried a beach in France. The answer was that we knew eachother mostly through the local Parent Teacher Association, and the subject had simply never come up in conversation. They became 'regular naturists' and as time went by the subject occasionally came up in the informal chat at PTA events, with other people overhearing and joining in. No one turned a hair. And so far as I am aware there were never any consequences for any of us, except that eventually another couple tried it too, and liked it enough to join a club too. |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
"marc" <initial.surname@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:z9CdnSxXiLgs_QfbnZ2dnUVZ8tPinZ2d@bt.com... > Hagar wrote: > >> >> Duncan Heenan is on a constant power freak mode where he thinks everybody >> should see his and his only point of view; David Looser is just a big >> headed prat who does not consider anybody other than himself and like >> Duncan Heenan thinks that his view is the only one that counts, these >> people are not common to the average sun lover, they are exhibitionists >> and nothing else, they do not give a dam about other peoples feelings >> (and examples can be given from their ill advised previous posts) >> So to all those who are new to naturism avoid these like the plague, if >> you want good advice contact Andrew Welch at British Naturism, you will >> get great advise, impartial advice, and genuine advice > Evening Bertie! It's always amusing, if a little sad to see one's predictions come true. He just couldn't stay away could he? |
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"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:12tmi.40916$iE5.32349@fe3.news.blueyonder.co. uk... > snip Berties usual ravings, such as< > As the Great mouth Duncan Heenan said < > let total idiots like Duncan Heenan, David Looser and Co < Add "Hagar" to the 'Legion List' which I currently have as: Sheila & Les Bertrum Flack Jimmy & Joy Newhaven Lisa & David John Franks Russ765 Pongo the Great Sandlgra True Naturist ps (Don't forget Bertie's supporters club, which includes 'Paul' and 'Stephen', which amounts to1 in all). |
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Re: How do we talk to those who enjoy social nudity but don't consider themselves as Naturists?
On 15 Jul, 16:06, marc <initial.surn...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote: > > On 15 Jul, 15:23, Duncan Heenan <duncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> On Jul 15, 7:17 am, "Duncan Heenan" > > >> <pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >>> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message > >>>news:1184419095.779870.153290@k79g2000hse.googl egroups.com... > >>>> One major difference between people who call themselves naturists & > >>>> those who just casually strip off (& this doesn't apply to everyone of > >>>> course) is that 'true' naturists (who visit clubs etc) seem to want to > >>>> keep the whole thing a big secret &/or not allow just anyone to join. > >>>> I remember being on an official naturist beach about a decade ago, & > >>>> one guy who'd been sitting around chatting naked to a few of us (& who > >>>> was often there) suddenly said "My neighbours are coming along!", & > >>>> very quickly got dressed & fled! > >>>> Snip < > >>> Clearly the man in question was not thinking. If his neighbours were also on > >>> a naturist beach, then they had that much in common, and are hardly likely > >>> to condemn him. Maybe there was some other reason he didn't want to meet > >>> them? > >> Any idea what he was actually frightened of?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Being caught naked by his neighbours I guess. > > > How many people on here can honestly say that they tell all their > > families, work colleagues & friends that they're a naturist? This is > > one of the big reasons why so little gets done. > > Me?- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Many of us are coy about our naturism with friends and family who are not that way inclined. I would say that anyone (club member or not) who enjoys sunbathing, swimming or any other outdoor activity where they can without clothes on is a naturist. I would say that an open naturist is one who is relaxed about being naked in an appropriate place even when some or all of the others around them choose to be clothed. |
