Re: Fun and games

"Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> <Snipped for brevity>
>
Huge snip
>
> Are you really that stupid? Again I have neither the time or the
> patience to cover old ground, try reading the posts without your
> blinkers.
>
> Pete Knight
>

Peter I have never insulted you but now I do, grow a male organ or get a
female to join you

I am not stupid or blinkered but it would seem you are

I stand for what normal people think of in terms of morality. You it would
seem do not!

Support Duncan if you wish, we choose not to, that's our right!
in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but
that's our opinion.
Yes people can vote how they wish, that is democracy, what the UK used to be
about but alas under labour it is no more ( a different topic and argument)

Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and when
they choose, I suggest that you as a disciple of Drunken want to this
because you are an exobishionist, why else do you want to do these things,
now you read the threads correctly, and then call yourself stupid, or are we
all stupid because we dare to contradict what you and Druncan want, so much
for democracy

Or does Druncan want others to fight his battles, please remember this URN
has very few BN members in it, it would seem to have a majority of hard
liners or exobishionists as members, therefore a true representation of BN
members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group (or is that
thought above your intellectual understanding)

Hagar

Hagar wrote:
> "Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1185206998.731886.33210@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>> On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> <Snipped for brevity>
>>
> Huge snip
>> Are you really that stupid? Again I have neither the time or the
>> patience to cover old ground, try reading the posts without your
>> blinkers.
>>
>> Pete Knight
>>
>
>
> Peter I have never insulted you but now I do, grow a male organ or get a
> female to join you

Do you want him to have a female join him in growing a male organ? I
only ask because your message is ambiguous
>
> I am not stupid or blinkered but it would seem you are

Are what? You didn't seem to end the sentence.
>
> I stand

"I" are we back to I again now?

for what normal people think of in terms of morality. You it would
> seem do not!

Slippery terms morality and normal, better men have had things slither
away from them by using terms such as these.
>
> Support Duncan if you wish, we choose not to,

"We" I we make up your mind man/woman/committee

that's our right!

No that's your choice, there is a big difference between a choice and a
right.

> in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but
> that's our opinion.

Yes which is why it's yours, opinion I mean , your opinion is , it's
yours, not anyone elses, your opinion.

> Yes people can vote how they wish,
Nooooo we had this little lesson earlier people vote from the choice
that the election gives them, not how they wish.

that is democracy,
Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy

what the UK used to be
> about but alas under labour it is no more ( a different topic and argument)

and wrong in so many different ways
>
> Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and when
> they choose,

You seem to have a problem understanding the correct use of the word "right"

But I would suggest that all naturists would want to choose where and
when they choose to be naked, it's the problem that they may not want
others to be naked in places that they don't approve of that causes the
problem. You see, you are doing exactly what you accuse Mr Heenan of,
projecting your PoV as if it was the only one.

I suggest that you as a disciple of Drunken want to this
> because you are an exobishionist, why else do you want to do these things,

I thought it had been explained to Les/Steve/Paul/Bertie that Mr Heenan
had never put forward the ideas that you ascribe to him?

> now you read the threads correctly, and then call yourself stupid, or are we
> all stupid because we dare to contradict what you and Druncan want, so much
> for democracy

Democracy, thats where all the people on the plane get to choose the
prettiest pilot? The BN election was a democratic one wasn't it? If it
was then Mr Heenan's election (if it happens )would be democratic, even
if you don't like the result. If the election wasn't democratic maybe
you should be complaining to BN?

>
> Or does Druncan want others to fight his battles, please remember this URN
> has very few BN members in it,
You, I, Mr Heenan or anyone else has no idea how many BN members or "in" URN

it would seem to have a majority of hard
> liners or exobishionists

Hardliners of what?
as members, therefore a true representation of BN
> members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group (or is that
> thought above your intellectual understanding)

Hmmm maybe your right, "true representation of BN
members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group" ?

Lucky then that neither I , Mr Heenan , or anyone else has pretended to
speak on behalf of "normal" BN members or naturists!

OOOPs! I just remembered, someone HAS pretended to speak on behalf of
"normal" BN members or naturists, Bertie/Les/Steve/Paul/Hagar/Legion.

So what's it to be, is the election democratic or not, can one person
have an opinion that differs or not, can one person speak for "normal"
or not? It's your choice but remember whichever way you jump you have to
allow others the same choice, after all they have "rights" in a
democracy don't they?

"marc" <initial.surname@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> Hagar wrote:
>> "Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1185206998.731886.33210@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>>> On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> <Snipped for brevity>
>>>
>> Huge snip

>
> that's our right!
> ___________________________________
> No that's your choice, there is a big difference between a choice and a
> right.

__________________________________

Yes correct Marc, its our choice and right to vote as we wish, we have a
right to vote and a choice of whom or what we vote for, so do not try and be
clever with penmanship, or grammar, just stick to the facts.
>
>> in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but
>> that's our opinion.
______________________________________
>
> Yes which is why it's yours, opinion I mean , your opinion is , it's
> yours, not anyone else's, your opinion.
_______________________________________

Yes its our opinion, that means Mark, several others we have spoke to do not
like Druncan either, so once again your penmanship has dripped ink over the
page
>
_______________________________________
>> Yes people can vote how they wish,
_________________________________________
> Nooooo we had this little lesson earlier people vote from the choice that
> the election gives them, not how they wish.
_________________________________________
>
> What utter crap, yes they vote from choice (if they understand what or
> whom they are voting for)
so if they do not wish to vote for a person or policy they do not
they do vote for how they wish (think you better get Druncan to do better
scripts for your replies my friend)
>
>
> ________________________________________
> that is democracy,
________________________________________
> Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy
__________________________________________________ _

___(if your going to type crap, please make it grammatically
correct)_____________________________________

You total idiot, if people vote as they themselves wish, that is democracy,
where the hell do you get anarchy from. (get Druncan to check his dictionary
before posting)
>

>> ___________________________________
>> Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and
>> when they choose,
> ____________________________________
> You seem to have a problem understanding the correct use of the word
> "right"

________________________________________

And you have a problem understanding human rights
>

> _____________________________________
> So what's it to be, is the election democratic or not, can one person have
> an opinion that differs or not, can one person speak for "normal" or not?
> It's your choice but remember whichever way you jump you have to allow
> others the same choice, after all they have "rights" in a democracy don't
> they?

________________________________________
Yes all have a right to vote the way they wish, this has never been
disputed, as for jumping we have jumped the way we wish now

By the way we have corrected several of your spelling and grammatical
mistakes in our reply

Hagar wrote:
> they do vote for how they wish
MARC SAID
>> Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy
HAGAR SAID
> You total idiot, if people vote as they themselves wish, that is democracy,
> where the hell do you get anarchy from.

Hagar, I am interjecting on this one point ...

Marc said that people can only vote "as the election allows" because
people can only vote for those on the ballot paper. If people did not
put themselves forward, or were disqualified from standing, then they
cannot be voted for.

Example, I really want Pamela Anderson to be on the committee of BN and
so I have voted for her but my pal wanted Beyoncé and has voted for her.

If we were ABLE to vote for whomsover we wished - and they were then
elected - that would be anarchy.

But, as it happens, BN has a process for ensuring that we cannot vote
for whom we wish - we can only vote for the people on the ballot paper
(which is rather the same as you get in General Elections) and so we can
only vote the way the election has been set up.

Geddit??

OK, as you were.
Atta boy Marc!

Simon.

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Hagar	Re: Fun and games "Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:1185206998.731886.33210@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > <Snipped for brevity> > Huge snip > > Are you really that stupid? Again I have neither the time or the > patience to cover old ground, try reading the posts without your > blinkers. > > Pete Knight > Peter I have never insulted you but now I do, grow a male organ or get a female to join you I am not stupid or blinkered but it would seem you are I stand for what normal people think of in terms of morality. You it would seem do not! Support Duncan if you wish, we choose not to, that's our right! in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but that's our opinion. Yes people can vote how they wish, that is democracy, what the UK used to be about but alas under labour it is no more ( a different topic and argument) Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and when they choose, I suggest that you as a disciple of Drunken want to this because you are an exobishionist, why else do you want to do these things, now you read the threads correctly, and then call yourself stupid, or are we all stupid because we dare to contradict what you and Druncan want, so much for democracy Or does Druncan want others to fight his battles, please remember this URN has very few BN members in it, it would seem to have a majority of hard liners or exobishionists as members, therefore a true representation of BN members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group (or is that thought above your intellectual understanding) Hagar

	#2
marc	Re: Fun and games Hagar wrote: > "Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:1185206998.731886.33210@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... >> On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> <Snipped for brevity> >> > Huge snip >> Are you really that stupid? Again I have neither the time or the >> patience to cover old ground, try reading the posts without your >> blinkers. >> >> Pete Knight >> > > > Peter I have never insulted you but now I do, grow a male organ or get a > female to join you Do you want him to have a female join him in growing a male organ? I only ask because your message is ambiguous > > I am not stupid or blinkered but it would seem you are Are what? You didn't seem to end the sentence. > > I stand "I" are we back to I again now? for what normal people think of in terms of morality. You it would > seem do not! Slippery terms morality and normal, better men have had things slither away from them by using terms such as these. > > Support Duncan if you wish, we choose not to, "We" I we make up your mind man/woman/committee that's our right! No that's your choice, there is a big difference between a choice and a right. > in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but > that's our opinion. Yes which is why it's yours, opinion I mean , your opinion is , it's yours, not anyone elses, your opinion. > Yes people can vote how they wish, Nooooo we had this little lesson earlier people vote from the choice that the election gives them, not how they wish. that is democracy, Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy what the UK used to be > about but alas under labour it is no more ( a different topic and argument) and wrong in so many different ways > > Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and when > they choose, You seem to have a problem understanding the correct use of the word "right" But I would suggest that all naturists would want to choose where and when they choose to be naked, it's the problem that they may not want others to be naked in places that they don't approve of that causes the problem. You see, you are doing exactly what you accuse Mr Heenan of, projecting your PoV as if it was the only one. I suggest that you as a disciple of Drunken want to this > because you are an exobishionist, why else do you want to do these things, I thought it had been explained to Les/Steve/Paul/Bertie that Mr Heenan had never put forward the ideas that you ascribe to him? > now you read the threads correctly, and then call yourself stupid, or are we > all stupid because we dare to contradict what you and Druncan want, so much > for democracy Democracy, thats where all the people on the plane get to choose the prettiest pilot? The BN election was a democratic one wasn't it? If it was then Mr Heenan's election (if it happens )would be democratic, even if you don't like the result. If the election wasn't democratic maybe you should be complaining to BN? > > Or does Druncan want others to fight his battles, please remember this URN > has very few BN members in it, You, I, Mr Heenan or anyone else has no idea how many BN members or "in" URN it would seem to have a majority of hard > liners or exobishionists Hardliners of what? as members, therefore a true representation of BN > members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group (or is that > thought above your intellectual understanding) Hmmm maybe your right, "true representation of BN members thoughts or views can not be gleamed off this group" ? Lucky then that neither I , Mr Heenan , or anyone else has pretended to speak on behalf of "normal" BN members or naturists! OOOPs! I just remembered, someone HAS pretended to speak on behalf of "normal" BN members or naturists, Bertie/Les/Steve/Paul/Hagar/Legion. So what's it to be, is the election democratic or not, can one person have an opinion that differs or not, can one person speak for "normal" or not? It's your choice but remember whichever way you jump you have to allow others the same choice, after all they have "rights" in a democracy don't they?

	#3
Hagar	Re: Fun and games "marc" <initial.surname@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:2cqdnWy6hrwsZjnbnZ2dnUVZ8vudnZ2d@bt.com... > Hagar wrote: >> "Pete Knight" <pete084@hotmail.com> wrote in message >> news:1185206998.731886.33210@o61g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... >>> On Jul 23, 4:28 pm, "Hagar" <fatm...@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> <Snipped for brevity> >>> >> Huge snip > > that's our right! > ___________________________________ > No that's your choice, there is a big difference between a choice and a > right. __________________________________ Yes correct Marc, its our choice and right to vote as we wish, we have a right to vote and a choice of whom or what we vote for, so do not try and be clever with penmanship, or grammar, just stick to the facts. > >> in our opinion Duncan will cause the membership to drop even more, but >> that's our opinion. ______________________________________ > > Yes which is why it's yours, opinion I mean , your opinion is , it's > yours, not anyone else's, your opinion. _______________________________________ Yes its our opinion, that means Mark, several others we have spoke to do not like Druncan either, so once again your penmanship has dripped ink over the page > _______________________________________ >> Yes people can vote how they wish, _________________________________________ > Nooooo we had this little lesson earlier people vote from the choice that > the election gives them, not how they wish. _________________________________________ > > What utter crap, yes they vote from choice (if they understand what or > whom they are voting for) so if they do not wish to vote for a person or policy they do not they do vote for how they wish (think you better get Druncan to do better scripts for your replies my friend) > > > ________________________________________ > that is democracy, ________________________________________ > Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy __________________________________________________ _ ___(if your going to type crap, please make it grammatically correct)_____________________________________ You total idiot, if people vote as they themselves wish, that is democracy, where the hell do you get anarchy from. (get Druncan to check his dictionary before posting) > >> ___________________________________ >> Not all naturists want to have the right to run around naked where and >> when they choose, > ____________________________________ > You seem to have a problem understanding the correct use of the word > "right" ________________________________________ And you have a problem understanding human rights > > _____________________________________ > So what's it to be, is the election democratic or not, can one person have > an opinion that differs or not, can one person speak for "normal" or not? > It's your choice but remember whichever way you jump you have to allow > others the same choice, after all they have "rights" in a democracy don't > they? ________________________________________ Yes all have a right to vote the way they wish, this has never been disputed, as for jumping we have jumped the way we wish now By the way we have corrected several of your spelling and grammatical mistakes in our reply

	#4
Simon	Re: Fun and games Hagar wrote: > they do vote for how they wish MARC SAID >> Noooo is not "people can vote how they wish" that's called anarchy HAGAR SAID > You total idiot, if people vote as they themselves wish, that is democracy, > where the hell do you get anarchy from. Hagar, I am interjecting on this one point ... Marc said that people can only vote "as the election allows" because people can only vote for those on the ballot paper. If people did not put themselves forward, or were disqualified from standing, then they cannot be voted for. Example, I really want Pamela Anderson to be on the committee of BN and so I have voted for her but my pal wanted Beyoncé and has voted for her. If we were ABLE to vote for whomsover we wished - and they were then elected - that would be anarchy. But, as it happens, BN has a process for ensuring that we cannot vote for whom we wish - we can only vote for the people on the ballot paper (which is rather the same as you get in General Elections) and so we can only vote the way the election has been set up. Geddit?? OK, as you were. Atta boy Marc! Simon.