Re: Fun and games

Tim Forcer wrote:

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> fun and games ... is almost the sum total of the activities of what
> claims to be a National Representative Body
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> IMO that allegation is untrue and unfair.
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> Other significant activities include:
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> a) beach activism / liaison / PR (and not just through "fun and games"
> beach days - consider Perran Sands)

ISTM that the beach activism / liaison / PR comes from the bottom up and
that BN is simply claiming credit for it's members activities, activity
that would probably take place locally if BN didn't exist.
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> b) PR (and not just through "fun and games" events, although it's
> certainly true that a great deal of PR has resulted from "fun and
> games" events)
I can't see a great deal of PR being done, outside of the naturist world.

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> c) liaison with and support for people and organisations promoting
> naturist-friendly "fun and games" opportunities for naturists (eg
> Abbey House Gardens)

Comes under the "fun and games" banner so can't really be counted as
"Other significant activities"

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> d) Parliamentary and similar lobbying (eg the Local Government Bill)
Not much seems to be happening there, but I will accept that much of
this sort of work is like swan legs.
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> e) Child Protection - surely absolutely essential in its own right AND
> to provide pre-emptive defence against the occasional smear/sleaze
> allegations and insinuations of bigots?

This is a basic function of any organisation nowadays. So I can't see
how BN can claim credit for something that it needs to do anyway
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> f) international liaison (OK, the benefits of what is done often seem
> limited to the fact that a talking shop has talked - but in principle
> international liaison and co-operation is surely relevant to Duncan's
> desired activist approach?)

Agreed, but at what cost/level?

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marc	Re: Fun and games Tim Forcer wrote: > > Quote+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > fun and games ... is almost the sum total of the activities of what > claims to be a National Representative Body > > ---------------------------------Unquote > > IMO that allegation is untrue and unfair. > > Other significant activities include: > > a) beach activism / liaison / PR (and not just through "fun and games" > beach days - consider Perran Sands) ISTM that the beach activism / liaison / PR comes from the bottom up and that BN is simply claiming credit for it's members activities, activity that would probably take place locally if BN didn't exist. > > b) PR (and not just through "fun and games" events, although it's > certainly true that a great deal of PR has resulted from "fun and > games" events) I can't see a great deal of PR being done, outside of the naturist world. > > c) liaison with and support for people and organisations promoting > naturist-friendly "fun and games" opportunities for naturists (eg > Abbey House Gardens) Comes under the "fun and games" banner so can't really be counted as "Other significant activities" > > d) Parliamentary and similar lobbying (eg the Local Government Bill) Not much seems to be happening there, but I will accept that much of this sort of work is like swan legs. > > e) Child Protection - surely absolutely essential in its own right AND > to provide pre-emptive defence against the occasional smear/sleaze > allegations and insinuations of bigots? This is a basic function of any organisation nowadays. So I can't see how BN can claim credit for something that it needs to do anyway > > f) international liaison (OK, the benefits of what is done often seem > limited to the fact that a talking shop has talked - but in principle > international liaison and co-operation is surely relevant to Duncan's > desired activist approach?) Agreed, but at what cost/level?