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  #1
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
Default Re: Botany Bay in The Thanet Times

This is now on my website. I think it's a reasonably positive piece,
& thankfully lacks much of the usual Thanet Times sensationalism!

 
  #2
Richard T
 
Default Re: Botany Bay in The Thanet Times

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
wrote:

>This is now on my website.


Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

Richard T
 
  #3
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 10 Jul, 11:33, Richard T <r1chardth0rpeNOS...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> >This is now on my website.

>
> Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.
>
> Richard T


One of the galleries (currently the first one) contains all the press
cuttings.

Peter

 
  #4
Steve Doerr
 
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Richard T wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
>> This is now on my website.

>
> Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.


<http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1794&g2_imageViewsIndex=1>
appears to be the direct link.

Good article. Some good work going on by Peter, Reg, Jules, and Malcolm
Boura.

--
Steve
 
  #5
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 10 Jul, 12:08, Steve Doerr <REVERSEdoerr.st...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
> Richard T wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:

>
> >> This is now on my website.

>
> > Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

>
> <http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1794&g2_image...>
> appears to be the direct link.
>
> Good article. Some good work going on by Peter, Reg, Jules, and Malcolm
> Boura.
>
> --
> Steve



Thanks Steve.

If anyone wants to write to The Thanet Times letters page here's the
email address:

editor.thanet@kentregionalnewspapers.co.uk

Let's try to keep all comments constructive though, & remember you're
not "preaching to the converted" as we are on here... : )

 
  #6
Richard T
 
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:40:12 -0700, peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
wrote:

>On 10 Jul, 11:33, Richard T <r1chardth0rpeNOS...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>>
>> >This is now on my website.

>>
>> Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.
>>
>> Richard T

>
>One of the galleries (currently the first one) contains all the press
>cuttings.
>
>Peter


Thanks, found it now.

Interesting article but why are you quoted as saying "I agree there
should be signs warning familes there may be people without clothing
on the beach..."?

Maybe there should be a sign inviting people to use the beach without
clothes or maybe there should simply be a sign saying that it's a
nudist beach (as is common in Holland), but a warning implies that
there is some sort of danger. Is there?

Richard T

PS I see you've removed the warning sign from your web site!
 
  #7
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 10 Jul, 15:33, Richard T <r1chardth0rpeNOS...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 03:40:12 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> wrote:
>
> >On 10 Jul, 11:33, Richard T <r1chardth0rpeNOS...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> >> wrote:

>
> >> >This is now on my website.

>
> >> Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

>
> >> Richard T

>
> >One of the galleries (currently the first one) contains all the press
> >cuttings.

>
> >Peter

>
> Thanks, found it now.
>
> Interesting article but why are you quoted as saying "I agree there
> should be signs warning familes there may be people without clothing
> on the beach..."?
>
> Maybe there should be a sign inviting people to use the beach without
> clothes or maybe there should simply be a sign saying that it's a
> nudist beach (as is common in Holland), but a warning implies that
> there is some sort of danger. Is there?


I don't think I actually worded it like that when I was interviewed, I
just agreed that there should be some sort of sign there ("clothing
need not be worn beyond this point" or similar).

> PS I see you've removed the warning sign from your web site!


Yes! : )

I had a chat with my webmaster, & fortunately he can tell the
difference between simple nudity & pornography. Since I removed it
I've had a several emails from people suggesting that I SHOULD have
some sort of warning, but (as you pointed out previously) the name
"Naked in Thanet" should be indication enough. It was a little
different when I had a site called "Peter Checksfield Photography".


 
  #8
Reg Barlow
 
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On Jul 10, 12:08 pm, Steve Doerr <REVERSEdoerr.st...@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:
> Richard T wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> > wrote:

>
> >> This is now on my website.

>
> > Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

>
> <http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1794&g2_image...>
> appears to be the direct link.
>
> Good article. Some good work going on by Peter, Reg, Jules, and Malcolm
> Boura.
>
> --
> Steve


Thanks Steve, but to be fair, I don't think I can claim any credit for
the newspaper articles. They were all Peter's work and well done him.

Following his lead though, I have now written to the editor of Thanet
Times (editor.thanet@kentregionalnewspapers.co.uk if anyone is
interested - I've just noticed that Peter has already given the email
address but there's no harm giving it again) asking some questions
arising from the article; couldn't resist pointing out Hannah Thorpe's
error though. BTW I shall be writing to the council itself at the
weekend, sadly I've received no information about any incidents at
Botany Bay/Foreness Point. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or
not! Anyway, hopefully the council will see sense and start talking to
us instead of at us.

Reg

 
  #9
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 10 Jul, 21:07, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Jul 10, 12:08 pm, Steve Doerr <REVERSEdoerr.st...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Richard T wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> > > wrote:

>
> > >> This is now on my website.

>
> > > Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

>
> > <http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1794&g2_image...>
> > appears to be the direct link.

>
> > Good article. Some good work going on by Peter, Reg, Jules, and Malcolm
> > Boura.

>
> > --
> > Steve

>
> Thanks Steve, but to be fair, I don't think I can claim any credit for
> the newspaper articles. They were all Peter's work and well done him.
>
> Following his lead though, I have now written to the editor of Thanet
> Times (editor.tha...@kentregionalnewspapers.co.uk if anyone is
> interested - I've just noticed that Peter has already given the email
> address but there's no harm giving it again) asking some questions
> arising from the article; couldn't resist pointing out Hannah Thorpe's
> error though. BTW I shall be writing to the council itself at the
> weekend, sadly I've received no information about any incidents at
> Botany Bay/Foreness Point. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or
> not! Anyway, hopefully the council will see sense and start talking to
> us instead of at us.
>
> Reg- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Myself & a few friends (male & female) are planning a naked public
protest in the very near future! : )

Most of them don't consider themselves naturists, but they believe in
freedom of choice, & aren't afraid to stick up for what's right &
wrong.

I think the big mistake most naturist campaigns make is assuming that
the only people interested in naturism are naturists, when in fact a
large percentage of the non-naturist public support or tolerate
naturism.

 
  #10
Pete Knight
 
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On Jul 11, 9:58 am, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
> On 10 Jul, 21:07, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 10, 12:08 pm, Steve Doerr <REVERSEdoerr.st...@blueyonder.co.uk>
> > wrote:

>
> > > Richard T wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:12:47 -0700, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com
> > > > wrote:

>
> > > >> This is now on my website.

>
> > > > Where? All I can see is a link to your gallery.

>
> > > <http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery/main.php?g2_itemId=1794&g2_image...>
> > > appears to be the direct link.

>
> > > Good article. Some good work going on by Peter, Reg, Jules, and Malcolm
> > > Boura.

>
> > > --
> > > Steve

>
> > Thanks Steve, but to be fair, I don't think I can claim any credit for
> > the newspaper articles. They were all Peter's work and well done him.

>
> > Following his lead though, I have now written to the editor of Thanet
> > Times (editor.tha...@kentregionalnewspapers.co.uk if anyone is
> > interested - I've just noticed that Peter has already given the email
> > address but there's no harm giving it again) asking some questions
> > arising from the article; couldn't resist pointing out Hannah Thorpe's
> > error though. BTW I shall be writing to the council itself at the
> > weekend, sadly I've received no information about any incidents at
> > Botany Bay/Foreness Point. I'm not sure if that is a good thing or
> > not! Anyway, hopefully the council will see sense and start talking to
> > us instead of at us.

>
> > Reg- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Myself & a few friends (male & female) are planning a naked public
> protest in the very near future! : )
>
> Most of them don't consider themselves naturists, but they believe in
> freedom of choice, & aren't afraid to stick up for what's right &
> wrong.
>
> I think the big mistake most naturist campaigns make is assuming that
> the only people interested in naturism are naturists, when in fact a
> large percentage of the non-naturist public support or tolerate
> naturism.


Although a gymnophobic acquaintance would have us believe different,
but then we are guilty of thinking that our perception is the common
perception.

So when and where is this protest likely to take place, and are you
able to arrange some sun for the event?

Pete Knight

 
  #11
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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> So when and where is this protest likely to take place,


"When" is top secret as we want to surprise everyone, & "where" is on
Botany Bay beach of course. : )

> and are you
> able to arrange some sun for the event?


Sadly not, but it will still be fun, & will get our point across
whatever the weather.

I've a couple of girls making banners at this very moment... ; )

 
  #12
Reg Barlow
 
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On Jul 11, 10:45 am, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > So when and where is this protest likely to take place,

>
> "When" is top secret as we want to surprise everyone, & "where" is on
> Botany Bay beach of course. : )
>
> > and are you
> > able to arrange some sun for the event?

>
> Sadly not, but it will still be fun, & will get our point across
> whatever the weather.
>
> I've a couple of girls making banners at this very moment... ; )


While I don't disagree with you Peter - look at the times PETA staged
naked protests and looking in one of the free papers this evening
apparently there was a line of models in nothing but their knickers
outside a central London Boots this morning for some publicity stunt,
which hardly raised a hair - is this going to the an 'impromptu'
protest or are you talking to the local police, just to make sure that
they understand that you're motivation is not threatening?

Reg

 
  #13
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 11 Jul, 21:53, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Jul 11, 10:45 am, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > > So when and where is this protest likely to take place,

>
> > "When" is top secret as we want to surprise everyone, & "where" is on
> > Botany Bay beach of course. : )

>
> > > and are you
> > > able to arrange some sun for the event?

>
> > Sadly not, but it will still be fun, & will get our point across
> > whatever the weather.

>
> > I've a couple of girls making banners at this very moment... ; )

>
> While I don't disagree with you Peter - look at the times PETA staged
> naked protests and looking in one of the free papers this evening
> apparently there was a line of models in nothing but their knickers
> outside a central London Boots this morning for some publicity stunt,
> which hardly raised a hair -


That's because it's central London, not central Thanet!

is this going to the an 'impromptu'
> protest or are you talking to the local police, just to make sure that
> they understand that you're motivation is not threatening?


It will be totally 'impromptu'. We'll be on a (sorta) naturist beach
anyway, & they'll only try to stop us. But don't worry, we'll be
respectful & non-threatening to anyone else on the beach (which in the
current weather are likely to be no more than 1 or 2 people walking
their dogs).

The important thing is that I'm getting a few women involved, & this
will create more publicity & generally be viewed more favourably than
if it was only the ageing males that are usually down there.

Peter


 
  #14
Duncan Heenan
 
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<peterchecksfield@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1184191281.388270.302180@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
> On 11 Jul, 21:53, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 11, 10:45 am, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
>>
>> > > So when and where is this protest likely to take place,

>>
>> > "When" is top secret as we want to surprise everyone, & "where" is on
>> > Botany Bay beach of course. : )

>>
>> > > and are you
>> > > able to arrange some sun for the event?

>>
>> > Sadly not, but it will still be fun, & will get our point across
>> > whatever the weather.

>>
>> > I've a couple of girls making banners at this very moment... ; )

>>
>> While I don't disagree with you Peter - look at the times PETA staged
>> naked protests and looking in one of the free papers this evening
>> apparently there was a line of models in nothing but their knickers
>> outside a central London Boots this morning for some publicity stunt,
>> which hardly raised a hair -

>
> That's because it's central London, not central Thanet!
>
> is this going to the an 'impromptu'
>> protest or are you talking to the local police, just to make sure that
>> they understand that you're motivation is not threatening?

>
> It will be totally 'impromptu'. We'll be on a (sorta) naturist beach
> anyway, & they'll only try to stop us. But don't worry, we'll be
> respectful & non-threatening to anyone else on the beach (which in the
> current weather are likely to be no more than 1 or 2 people walking
> their dogs).
>
> The important thing is that I'm getting a few women involved, & this
> will create more publicity & generally be viewed more favourably than
> if it was only the ageing males that are usually down there.
>
> Peter


Good for you. I wish you all good luck.


 
  #15
Reg Barlow
 
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On Jul 12, 6:41 am, "Duncan Heenan"
<pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184191281.388270.302180@o61g2000hsh.googlegr oups.com...
>
>
>
> > On 11 Jul, 21:53, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 11, 10:45 am, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:

>
> >> > > So when and where is this protest likely to take place,

>
> >> > "When" is top secret as we want to surprise everyone, & "where" is on
> >> > Botany Bay beach of course. : )

>
> >> > > and are you
> >> > > able to arrange some sun for the event?

>
> >> > Sadly not, but it will still be fun, & will get our point across
> >> > whatever the weather.

>
> >> > I've a couple of girls making banners at this very moment... ; )

>
> >> While I don't disagree with you Peter - look at the times PETA staged
> >> naked protests and looking in one of the free papers this evening
> >> apparently there was a line of models in nothing but their knickers
> >> outside a central London Boots this morning for some publicity stunt,
> >> which hardly raised a hair -

>
> > That's because it's central London, not central Thanet!

>
> > is this going to the an 'impromptu'
> >> protest or are you talking to the local police, just to make sure that
> >> they understand that you're motivation is not threatening?

>
> > It will be totally 'impromptu'. We'll be on a (sorta) naturist beach
> > anyway, & they'll only try to stop us. But don't worry, we'll be
> > respectful & non-threatening to anyone else on the beach (which in the
> > current weather are likely to be no more than 1 or 2 people walking
> > their dogs).

>
> > The important thing is that I'm getting a few women involved, & this
> > will create more publicity & generally be viewed more favourably than
> > if it was only the ageing males that are usually down there.

>
> > Peter

>
> Good for you. I wish you all good luck.


ditto. I just had an image of you and everyone else standing outside
the council Chambers in Margate Town Centre, not that I wish to give
you any ideas of course!

 
  #16
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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Here's some photos from today's protest at Botany Bay:

http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery...g2_itemId=1806

: )


 
  #17
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 12 Jul, 23:47, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Here's some photos from today's protest at Botany Bay:
>
> http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery...g2_itemId=1806
>
> : )


And for those that prefer colour:

http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...20in%20Thanet/

 
  #18
Mike H
 
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In message <1184281993.548729.147350@g4g2000hsf.googlegroups. com>,
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com writes
>On 12 Jul, 23:47, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
>> Here's some photos from today's protest at Botany Bay:
>>
>> http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery...g2_itemId=1806
>>
>> : )

>
>And for those that prefer colour:
>
>http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v2...20in%20Thanet/
>

Well done all!
--
Mike Hopkins
Swim? Naturally with MADNAT
<http://www.madnat.org/>
 
  #19
Mike H
 
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In message <1184337184.038147.99440@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups. com>,
swim_n_paddle@yahoo.com writes

[snip]

>But what I can't understand
>is why everyone is hiding behind signs.

I very much doubt whether The Thanet Times or any other UK local paper
would publish pictures of naked nipples, let alone pubic hair - and
please don't get wound up about whether or not they should! The fact of
the matter is that they wont.

If, as I suspect, the purpose of the exercise was to get pictorial
publicity then there would have had little choice other than to use the
placards in the manner that they have been. Whether it was intentional
or not, I think that the use of hand written signs that appear to have
been amateurishly produced on the spur of the moment was an excellent
touch. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that most of the public
are prepared to tolerate naturists as harmless odd-balls - anything that
might perpetuate that idea can do little harm and may do some good.
--
Mike Hopkins
Swim? Naturally at Severn Vale
<http://www.svsc.fsworld.co.uk/>
 
  #20
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 13 Jul, 16:11, Mike H <newsrea...@ada-augusta.demon.co.uk.INVALID>
wrote:
.. Whether it was intentional
> or not, I think that the use of hand written signs that appear to have
> been amateurishly produced on the spur of the moment was an excellent
> touch. There is plenty of evidence to suggest that most of the public
> are prepared to tolerate naturists as harmless odd-balls - anything that
> might perpetuate that idea can do little harm and may do some good.


These are my thoughts too, & I think I should point out that it wasn't
me who thought of the protest idea or made the signs, it was in fact a
22-year-old woman (one of the women in the pics); I didn't even see
the signs until 15 minutes before we stripped off. She is a friend (&
a great person), but not really a close friend. But she was outraged
when she read The Thanet Times article about the beach (which has been
'naturist' ever since she can remember), so got in touch with me with
her idea. She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
(no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
swim without clothes if they wish to. So with all this in mind I've
asked The Thanet Times to speak to her about all this & not me.

 
  #21
David Looser
 
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<peterchecksfield@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1184345148.009987.89300@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...

> She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
> (no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
> strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
> swim without clothes if they wish to.


Shades of Vincent Bethell and his "Freedom to be Yourself" campaign. He
didn't consider himself a "naturist" either. But if someone who "likes the
idea that they can sit around or swim without clothes" isn't a naturist,
then what is a naturist?

David.


 
  #22
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 13 Jul, 20:29, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1184345148.009987.89300@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>
> > She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
> > (no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
> > strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
> > swim without clothes if they wish to.

>
> Shades of Vincent Bethell and his "Freedom to be Yourself" campaign. He
> didn't consider himself a "naturist" either. But if someone who "likes the
> idea that they can sit around or swim without clothes" isn't a naturist,
> then what is a naturist?
>
> David.


Just because they "like the idea" doesn't mean that they actually do
it... ; )

But what I really meant by this is that they believe everyone should
have the freedom to strip off if they choose to.

I'm a teetotal, but that doesn't mean I want alcohol banned...

Believe me, most non-naturists are NOT anti-naturist, & (as someone
else pointed out earlier) we're usually just regarded as harmless
eccentrics.


 
  #23
Reg Barlow
 
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On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:

> These are my thoughts too, & I think I should point out that it wasn't
> me who thought of the protest idea or made the signs, it was in fact a
> 22-year-old woman (one of the women in the pics); I didn't even see
> the signs until 15 minutes before we stripped off. She is a friend (&
> a great person), but not really a close friend. But she was outraged
> when she read The Thanet Times article about the beach (which has been
> 'naturist' ever since she can remember), so got in touch with me with
> her idea. She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
> (no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
> strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
> swim without clothes if they wish to. So with all this in mind I've
> asked The Thanet Times to speak to her about all this & not me.


Whatever! Well done you. I don't care if your friends like to, want to
call themselves naturists or not, in my book they should be made
welcome. I've reserved a copy of next Tuesday's Thanet Times to see if
my letter appears (OK so it isn't as attention grabbing) and I'll look
forward to seeing a pix or two too.

Reg

 
  #24
David Looser
 
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<peterchecksfield@googlemail.com> wrote in message
news:1184359676.117206.287970@22g2000hsm.googlegro ups.com...
> On 13 Jul, 20:29, "David Looser" <david.loo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> <peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:1184345148.009987.89300@k79g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>>
>> > She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
>> > (no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
>> > strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
>> > swim without clothes if they wish to.

>>
>> Shades of Vincent Bethell and his "Freedom to be Yourself" campaign. He
>> didn't consider himself a "naturist" either. But if someone who "likes
>> the
>> idea that they can sit around or swim without clothes" isn't a naturist,
>> then what is a naturist?
>>
>> David.

>
> Just because they "like the idea" doesn't mean that they actually do
> it... ; )
>
> But what I really meant by this is that they believe everyone should
> have the freedom to strip off if they choose to.
>

Are you saying that your friends *don't* want to swim or sit around naked,
but are holding this protest on behalf of other people who do?

> I'm a teetotal, but that doesn't mean I want alcohol banned...
>
> Believe me, most non-naturists are NOT anti-naturist, & (as someone
> else pointed out earlier) we're usually just regarded as harmless
> eccentrics.
>

I'm not sure what that has to do with my point. I was simply asking what,
beyond a liking for sitting around or swimming naked, is required before
one is a "naturist". Clearly some people think that there is something more,
I'd just like to know what it is.

David.


 
  #25
Mike H
 
Default Re: Botany Bay in The Thanet Times

In message <5frc05F3dcfg2U1@mid.individual.net>, David Looser
<david.looser@btinternet.com> writes

[snip]

>I'm not sure what that has to do with my point. I was simply asking what,
>beyond a liking for sitting around or swimming naked, is required before
>one is a "naturist". Clearly some people think that there is something more,
>I'd just like to know what it is.
>

A rose by any other name... ?

Alternatively, a person (including myself) might be a member of BN, a
member of two clubs, a frequent beach skinny dipper but not care what
he/she is called as long as he/she is called. My wife is a member of BN,
a member of two clubs, a less than frequent beach skinny dipper but
would rather keep the matter private and thus is mildly annoyed by being
called anything.

--
Mike Hopkins
Swim? Naturally with MADNAT
<http://www.madnat.org/>
 
  #26
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 13 Jul, 21:51, Reg Barlow <reg.bar...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Jul 13, 5:45 pm, peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
>
> > These are my thoughts too, & I think I should point out that it wasn't
> > me who thought of the protest idea or made the signs, it was in fact a
> > 22-year-old woman (one of the women in the pics); I didn't even see
> > the signs until 15 minutes before we stripped off. She is a friend (&
> > a great person), but not really a close friend. But she was outraged
> > when she read The Thanet Times article about the beach (which has been
> > 'naturist' ever since she can remember), so got in touch with me with
> > her idea. She & her friends don't even consider themselves naturists
> > (no more than I think of myself as a musician when I occasionally
> > strum a guitar!), they just like the idea that they can sit around or
> > swim without clothes if they wish to. So with all this in mind I've
> > asked The Thanet Times to speak to her about all this & not me.

>
> Whatever! Well done you. I don't care if your friends like to, want to
> call themselves naturists or not, in my book they should be made
> welcome. I've reserved a copy of next Tuesday's Thanet Times to see if
> my letter appears (OK so it isn't as attention grabbing) and I'll look
> forward to seeing a pix or two too.
>
> Reg


Oddly, The Thanet Times didn't get in touch with my friend (or me)
after I sent them links to the photos. If nothing is in this coming
tuesday's Thanet Times then I suggest a few people write to them
telling them about it.

 
  #27
Simon
 
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peterchecksfield@googlemail.com wrote:
> Oddly, The Thanet Times didn't get in touch with my friend (or me)
> after I sent them links to the photos. If nothing is in this coming
> tuesday's Thanet Times then I suggest a few people write to them
> telling them about it.

Possible answers:
1) They did not think it sufficiently news worthy.
2) Thought they might be criticised by their publisher/readers for
placing naked people (I know they could not be seen but they WERE naked)
in the paper for no good reason. In some eyes, this might be thought of
as just trying to sell more papers.
3) Plenty of other newsy items that week.
etcetera.

By the way, if they see people form outside the area lobbying them, they
will consider this far too pushy and they will exert their editorial
rights by ignoring all such. Bearing in mind that they get dozens of
such events and letters about a range of topics every month.

Sotty to be a wet flannel but my mother and step father were in
newspaper journalism for many years.
Simon.
 
  #28
peterchecksfield@googlemail.com
 
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On 14 Jul, 18:24, Simon <Heysf...@NotYahoo.com> wrote:
> peterchecksfi...@googlemail.com wrote:
> > Oddly, The Thanet Times didn't get in touch with my friend (or me)
> > after I sent them links to the photos. If nothing is in this coming
> > tuesday's Thanet Times then I suggest a few people write to them
> > telling them about it.

>
> Possible answers:
> 1) They did not think it sufficiently news worthy.
> 2) Thought they might be criticised by their publisher/readers for
> placing naked people (I know they could not be seen but they WERE naked)
> in the paper for no good reason. In some eyes, this might be thought of
> as just trying to sell more papers.
> 3) Plenty of other newsy items that week.
> etcetera.
>
> By the way, if they see people form outside the area lobbying them, they
> will consider this far too pushy and they will exert their editorial
> rights by ignoring all such. Bearing in mind that they get dozens of
> such events and letters about a range of topics every month.
>
> Sotty to be a wet flannel but my mother and step father were in
> newspaper journalism for many years.
> Simon.


I think we can safely rule out number 2, as they recently published
images far stronger (a nipple & a bum!):

http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery...?g2_itemId=740

http://www.nakedinthanet.com/gallery...?g2_itemId=738

I'm confident something will be in the following week's issue if it's
not in this coming week's.

 
  #29
Danny Colyer
 
Default Re: Botany Bay in The Thanet Times

On 13/07/2007 20:29, David Looser wondered:
> But if someone who "likes the
> idea that they can sit around or swim without clothes" isn't a naturist,
> then what is a naturist?


To me, a naturist is someone who goes out of his way to be naked.
Someone who will travel to a beach just because they can be naked there,
rather than because it's the most convenient beach. Someone who will
drive for hours to a swimming pool where he can swim naked, rather than
just popping along to the local pool for a swim. Someone who will go to
a club for the sole purpose of being naked. That seems very strange to
me, and is the reason I don't consider myself a naturist.

I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't *have* to go out of my way to be
naked. If the weather is such that it's more comfortable to be
unclothed than clothed, or in a swimming pool that's warm enough to
allow swimmers to use it wearing nothing but trunks (in which case
nudity would be more comfortable), then I really ought to be able to
choose the most comfortable attire (or lack thereof). If I want to
spend a day cycling (my usual activity of choice) naked than I don't
want to go to a club where I can spend the day doing laps, I want to
ride whatever route I choose and be able to do it naked.

--
Danny Colyer <URL:http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/>
Reply address is valid, but that on my website is checked more often
"Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down. Daddy, put that down.
Daddy, why did you put that down?" - Charlie Colyer, age 2
 
  #30
David Looser
 
Default Re: Botany Bay in The Thanet Times

"Danny Colyer" <danny_colyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:469a158e$0$1605$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
> On 13/07/2007 20:29, David Looser wondered:
>> But if someone who "likes the idea that they can sit around or swim
>> without clothes" isn't a naturist, then what is a naturist?

>
> To me, a naturist is someone who goes out of his way to be naked. Someone
> who will travel to a beach just because they can be naked there, rather
> than because it's the most convenient beach. Someone who will drive for
> hours to a swimming pool where he can swim naked, rather than just popping
> along to the local pool for a swim. Someone who will go to a club for the
> sole purpose of being naked. That seems very strange to me, and is the
> reason I don't consider myself a naturist.
>
> I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't *have* to go out of my way to be
> naked. If the weather is such that it's more comfortable to be unclothed
> than clothed, or in a swimming pool that's warm enough to allow swimmers
> to use it wearing nothing but trunks (in which case nudity would be more
> comfortable), then I really ought to be able to choose the most
> comfortable attire (or lack thereof).


I'm of that opinion too. Unfortunately, as my Grandmother used to say, "I
want doesn't get". The fact of the matter is that most of us have the choice
of going out of our way a bit or doing without. I think it strange that you
think it strange that some people will, occasionally, choose to go out of
their way rather than always having to go without.

David.


 
  #31
Duncan Heenan
 
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"David Looser" <david.looser@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:5fuvkeF3edd8iU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Danny Colyer" <danny_colyer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:469a158e$0$1605$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net...
>> On 13/07/2007 20:29, David Looser wondered:
>>> But if someone who "likes the idea that they can sit around or swim
>>> without clothes" isn't a naturist, then what is a naturist?

>>
>> To me, a naturist is someone who goes out of his way to be naked. Someone
>> who will travel to a beach just because they can be naked there, rather
>> than because it's the most convenient beach. Someone who will drive for
>> hours to a swimming pool where he can swim naked, rather than just
>> popping along to the local pool for a swim. Someone who will go to a
>> club for the sole purpose of being naked. That seems very strange to me,
>> and is the reason I don't consider myself a naturist.
>>
>> I'm of the opinion that I shouldn't *have* to go out of my way to be
>> naked. If the weather is such that it's more comfortable to be unclothed
>> than clothed, or in a swimming pool that's warm enough to allow swimmers
>> to use it wearing nothing but trunks (in which case nudity would be more
>> comfortable), then I really ought to be able to choose the most
>> comfortable attire (or lack thereof).

>
> I'm of that opinion too. Unfortunately, as my Grandmother used to say, "I
> want doesn't get". The fact of the matter is that most of us have the
> choice of going out of our way a bit or doing without. I think it strange
> that you think it strange that some people will, occasionally, choose to
> go out of their way rather than always having to go without.
>
> David.


I agree that going out of one's way to get to 'naturist venues' is a
necessary evil sometimes. The fact that it's necessary doesn't make it any
less evil though!