naturist weddings

Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime.

Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants
do not have to wear clothes

Darren

On 30 Jul, 09:56, "Darren" <naturismisgr...@hotmailnospamplease.com>
wrote:
> Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime.
>
> Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants
> do not have to wear clothes
>
> Darren

Assuming you are meaning a religious wedding ceremony you may need to
find an officiant willing to perform the ceremony first.

"Pat" <patnash@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1185791263.028720.61020@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Assuming you are meaning a religious wedding ceremony you may need to
> find an officiant willing to perform the ceremony first.

It does not need to be religious - I was assuming UK would be out (if only
because of the weather) and Southern Europe no good as Catholics. But there
might be a country where this sort of thing is accepted.

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:56:16 GMT, "Darren"
<naturismisgreat@hotmailnospamplease.com> wrote:

>Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime.
>
>Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants
>do not have to wear clothes

The Naturist Foundation at Orpington can arrange wedding 'blessings'
and similar services, I believe:

http://www.naturistfoundation.org/lay_chaplains.html

In fact Trevor, one of the chaplains is to be ordained as a Minister
next weekend:

http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/content/view/160/1/

- I think you will still have to carry out the legal service
elsewhere, though.

Best Regards

Jules

http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/

"NUFF Admin" <adminRE@MOVEnuff.org.uk> wrote in message
news:46ae39c3.4712847@news.namesco.net...
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:56:16 GMT, "Darren"
> <naturismisgreat@hotmailnospamplease.com> wrote:
>
>>Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime.
>>
>>Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the
>>participants
>>do not have to wear clothes
>
> The Naturist Foundation at Orpington can arrange wedding 'blessings'
> and similar services, I believe:
>
> http://www.naturistfoundation.org/lay_chaplains.html
>
> In fact Trevor, one of the chaplains is to be ordained as a Minister
> next weekend:
>
> http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/content/view/160/1/
>
> - I think you will still have to carry out the legal service
> elsewhere, though.
>
> Best Regards
>
> Jules
>
> http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/

Interesting. Do you happen to know which Church / Bishop Trevor is being
Ordained by ?

> Darren wrote:

>
> The premises MUST be indoors. NO outdoor wedding is legally binding in the
> UK. Don't ask me why but that is the case. You can have French
> windows/patio doors open but the wedding room has to be a room.

To be a bit pedantic, I don't think that "indoors rule" actually applies to
the whole of the UK

"mikec" <mike.carter@prested.com> wrote in message
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> fact. to hold a wedding you must hold a premises licence for this, which
> will be granted only to permanent structures under a roof.

I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for weddings
that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location. AIUI in the USA
you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the person taking the
wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be the same here?

David.

"mikec" <mike.carter@prested.com> wrote in message
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> fact. to hold a wedding you must hold a premises licence for this, which
> will be granted only to permanent structures under a roof.

I was talking about the situation under Scottish Law, not English.

In Scotland, the location of a civic ceremony must have a licence. Not so
for a humanist or religious service, which can be held anywhere.

Simon <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote:

> The premises MUST be indoors. NO outdoor wedding is legally binding in
> the UK. Don't ask me why but that is the case. You can have French
> windows/patio doors open but the wedding room has to be a room.

Rubbish. Those rules do not apply to the whole of the UK. In Scotland you
can be married almost anywhere. From
http://www.scotlandview.co.uk/weddings.htm:

> Recent changes to the law in Scotland mean you can get married
> virtually anywhere that takes your fancy as long as it doesn't
> compromise the solemnity and dignity of the occasion. Civil weddings
> are no longer restricted to registry offices which leaves plenty of
> scope. The only stipulation is that the location must have a grid
> reference which means if you choose to get married on anything that
> moves, such as a boat, plane, train, car or bus, you must be
> stationary for the actual ceremony. This is also worth bearing in mind
> for outdoor locations. If there's a sudden downpour you can't suddenly
> change venues from the one stipulated on the wedding licence so make
> sure there is somewhere undercover nearby if the heavens suddenly
> open.

Duncan Gray wrote:
> If what you want is a non-religious wedding, would you consider a humanist
> ceremony? While humanist weddings aren't legally recognised if carried out
> in the rest of the UK, they are if held in Scotland. I was impressed with
> the description given by a regular poster to another group of his wedding
> which was held on the hillside, in a scenic area of a Scottish Glen.
This is true. The law was changed in Scotland about two years ago and we
are still waiting for England and Wales to follow suit. It has been
promised - but no date.

The wedding that you refer to, might well be the one featured in the
link that you gave.
> http://www.humanism-scotland.org.uk/...stweddings.htm
That wedding was in 2000 and before the law changed and was a personal
Humanist wedding, not legally binding. The couple did the legal bit
later. I know because I was there and they are friends of mine. By an
amusing coincicdence, I appear in the photograph in that link!

Simon.

Duncan Gray wrote:
> To be a bit pedantic, I don't think that "indoors rule" actually applies to
> the whole of the UK
True. Different rules in Scotland. They often seem to have better rules
than us but our Scottish Prime Minister (Blair) did not change the
property purchasing law down South either!

Simon

David Looser wrote:
> I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for weddings
> that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location. AIUI in the USA
> you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the person taking the
> wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be the same here?
> David.
I agree. The only reasons that colleagues and in the British Humanist
Association could come up with are:

Control. If you allow people to marry anywhere, it gives up ancient
controls.

The Church of England. They have had a virtual monopoly on marriage for
many years and taking that away from them was not easy. I suspect that
it was, in part, a sop to the church. After all, we do have a state church.

Simon.

"Simon" <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote in message
news:46b24cb4$0$15221$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
> David Looser wrote:
>> I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for
>> weddings that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location.
>> AIUI in the USA you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the
>> person taking the wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be
>> the same here?
>> David.
> I agree. The only reasons that colleagues and in the British Humanist
> Association could come up with are:
>
> Control. If you allow people to marry anywhere, it gives up ancient
> controls.
>
Agreed, people with control rarely give it up without a fight.

> The Church of England. They have had a virtual monopoly on marriage for
> many years and taking that away from them was not easy. I suspect that it
> was, in part, a sop to the church.

They lost that when civil marriage was introduced. I can't really imagine
that the CofE really cares overmuch where civil weddings take place.

> After all, we do have a state church.
>
More's the pity. IMO having a state church is bad for the state, and bad for
the church.

David.

	#1
Darren	naturist weddings Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime. Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants do not have to wear clothes Darren

	#2
Pat	Re: naturist weddings On 30 Jul, 09:56, "Darren" <naturismisgr...@hotmailnospamplease.com> wrote: > Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime. > > Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants > do not have to wear clothes > > Darren Assuming you are meaning a religious wedding ceremony you may need to find an officiant willing to perform the ceremony first.

	#3
Darren	Re: naturist weddings "Pat" <patnash@tinyworld.co.uk> wrote in message news:1185791263.028720.61020@q75g2000hsh.googlegro ups.com... > > Assuming you are meaning a religious wedding ceremony you may need to > find an officiant willing to perform the ceremony first. It does not need to be religious - I was assuming UK would be out (if only because of the weather) and Southern Europe no good as Catholics. But there might be a country where this sort of thing is accepted.

	#4
NUFF Admin	Re: naturist weddings On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:56:16 GMT, "Darren" <naturismisgreat@hotmailnospamplease.com> wrote: >Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime. > >Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the participants >do not have to wear clothes The Naturist Foundation at Orpington can arrange wedding 'blessings' and similar services, I believe: http://www.naturistfoundation.org/lay_chaplains.html In fact Trevor, one of the chaplains is to be ordained as a Minister next weekend: http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/content/view/160/1/ - I think you will still have to carry out the legal service elsewhere, though. Best Regards Jules http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/

	#5
Duncan Heenan	Re: naturist weddings "NUFF Admin" <adminRE@MOVEnuff.org.uk> wrote in message news:46ae39c3.4712847@news.namesco.net... > On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 08:56:16 GMT, "Darren" > <naturismisgreat@hotmailnospamplease.com> wrote: > >>Seems a nice idea for a once in a lifetime. >> >>Anyone suggest a perfect location for such a wedding where the >>participants >>do not have to wear clothes > > The Naturist Foundation at Orpington can arrange wedding 'blessings' > and similar services, I believe: > > http://www.naturistfoundation.org/lay_chaplains.html > > In fact Trevor, one of the chaplains is to be ordained as a Minister > next weekend: > > http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/content/view/160/1/ > > - I think you will still have to carry out the legal service > elsewhere, though. > > Best Regards > > Jules > > http://nuff.org.uk/factfile/ Interesting. Do you happen to know which Church / Bishop Trevor is being Ordained by ?

	#6
Duncan Gray	Re: naturist weddings > Darren wrote: > > The premises MUST be indoors. NO outdoor wedding is legally binding in the > UK. Don't ask me why but that is the case. You can have French > windows/patio doors open but the wedding room has to be a room. To be a bit pedantic, I don't think that "indoors rule" actually applies to the whole of the UK

	#7
David Looser	Re: wedding licences "mikec" <mike.carter@prested.com> wrote in message news:46b0c990$0$1591$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > fact. to hold a wedding you must hold a premises licence for this, which > will be granted only to permanent structures under a roof. I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for weddings that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location. AIUI in the USA you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the person taking the wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be the same here? David.

	#9
Duncan Booth	Re: naturist weddings Simon <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote: > The premises MUST be indoors. NO outdoor wedding is legally binding in > the UK. Don't ask me why but that is the case. You can have French > windows/patio doors open but the wedding room has to be a room. Rubbish. Those rules do not apply to the whole of the UK. In Scotland you can be married almost anywhere. From http://www.scotlandview.co.uk/weddings.htm: > Recent changes to the law in Scotland mean you can get married > virtually anywhere that takes your fancy as long as it doesn't > compromise the solemnity and dignity of the occasion. Civil weddings > are no longer restricted to registry offices which leaves plenty of > scope. The only stipulation is that the location must have a grid > reference which means if you choose to get married on anything that > moves, such as a boat, plane, train, car or bus, you must be > stationary for the actual ceremony. This is also worth bearing in mind > for outdoor locations. If there's a sudden downpour you can't suddenly > change venues from the one stipulated on the wedding licence so make > sure there is somewhere undercover nearby if the heavens suddenly > open.

	#10
Simon	Re: naturist weddings Duncan Gray wrote: > If what you want is a non-religious wedding, would you consider a humanist > ceremony? While humanist weddings aren't legally recognised if carried out > in the rest of the UK, they are if held in Scotland. I was impressed with > the description given by a regular poster to another group of his wedding > which was held on the hillside, in a scenic area of a Scottish Glen. This is true. The law was changed in Scotland about two years ago and we are still waiting for England and Wales to follow suit. It has been promised - but no date. The wedding that you refer to, might well be the one featured in the link that you gave. > http://www.humanism-scotland.org.uk/...stweddings.htm That wedding was in 2000 and before the law changed and was a personal Humanist wedding, not legally binding. The couple did the legal bit later. I know because I was there and they are friends of mine. By an amusing coincicdence, I appear in the photograph in that link! Simon.

	#12
Simon	Re: wedding licences David Looser wrote: > I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for weddings > that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location. AIUI in the USA > you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the person taking the > wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be the same here? > David. I agree. The only reasons that colleagues and in the British Humanist Association could come up with are: Control. If you allow people to marry anywhere, it gives up ancient controls. The Church of England. They have had a virtual monopoly on marriage for many years and taking that away from them was not easy. I suspect that it was, in part, a sop to the church. After all, we do have a state church. Simon.

	#13
David Looser	Re: wedding licences "Simon" <Heysford@NotYahoo.com> wrote in message news:46b24cb4$0$15221$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk... > David Looser wrote: >> I thought it absurd when the government "liberalised" the rules for >> weddings that they didn't simply scrap all requirements for location. >> AIUI in the USA you can get married anywhere you like (as long as the >> person taking the wedding is properly authorised), why shouldn't it be >> the same here? >> David. > I agree. The only reasons that colleagues and in the British Humanist > Association could come up with are: > > Control. If you allow people to marry anywhere, it gives up ancient > controls. > Agreed, people with control rarely give it up without a fight. > The Church of England. They have had a virtual monopoly on marriage for > many years and taking that away from them was not easy. I suspect that it > was, in part, a sop to the church. They lost that when civil marriage was introduced. I can't really imagine that the CofE really cares overmuch where civil weddings take place. > After all, we do have a state church. > More's the pity. IMO having a state church is bad for the state, and bad for the church. David.