John Gwalter

Following up Reg Barlow's post in a different thread -

Isn't it time BN repeated the survey with exactly the same questions?
Not only would the answers themselves be interesting and worthy of
publicity, but any significant changes would be invaluable in indicating
what future actions would be most beneficial.

In particular we would then know whether there are any "open doors"
requiring only moderate effort to pass.


--


JOhn

My indecision is final.

Tim Forcer

On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:14 John Gwalter wrote:

> Following up Reg Barlow's post in a different thread -
>
> Isn't it time BN repeated the survey with exactly the same questions?
> Not only would the answers themselves be interesting and worthy of
> publicity, but any significant changes would be invaluable in indicating
> what future actions would be most beneficial.
>
> In particular we would then know whether there are any "open doors"
> requiring only moderate effort to pass.

See my response in that other thread. CCBN's EC seem to think the
survey should be repeated within a year.

--
Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk
The University of Southampton, UK

The University is not responsible for my opinions

Duncan Heenan

"Tim Forcer" <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:vbn8a3h34i8huu77pql3kll0ccg7tuabi3@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:14 John Gwalter wrote:
>
>> Following up Reg Barlow's post in a different thread -
>>
>> Isn't it time BN repeated the survey with exactly the same questions?
>> Not only would the answers themselves be interesting and worthy of
>> publicity, but any significant changes would be invaluable in indicating
>> what future actions would be most beneficial.
>>
>> In particular we would then know whether there are any "open doors"
>> requiring only moderate effort to pass.
>
> See my response in that other thread. CCBN's EC seem to think the
> survey should be repeated within a year.
>
> --
> Tim Forcer tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> The University of Southampton, UK
>
> The University is not responsible for my opinions
>
I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't think it ought
to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of course, been ignored.
I'd like to see, in addition, some form of consultation exercise with
naturists (both BN members and not) to see what they actually want from
their National Representative Body, what they would be prepared to pay and
do to get it, and the priorities attached. This would reverse the situation
which obtains now where a few friends get together in a huddle in the EC,
and then tell everyone what they're going to get, and expect them to be
grateful and look bemused if they're not.

Pete Knight

On Jul 23, 9:37 am, "Duncan Heenan"
<pleasenospammersduncanhee...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> "Tim Forcer" <t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:vbn8a3h34i8huu77pql3kll0ccg7tuabi3@4ax.com...
>
> > On Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:14 John Gwalter wrote:
>
> >> Following up Reg Barlow's post in a different thread -
>
> >> Isn't it time BN repeated the survey with exactly the same questions?
> >> Not only would the answers themselves be interesting and worthy of
> >> publicity, but any significant changes would be invaluable in indicating
> >> what future actions would be most beneficial.
>
> >> In particular we would then know whether there are any "open doors"
> >> requiring only moderate effort to pass.
>
> > See my response in that other thread. CCBN's EC seem to think the
> > survey should be repeated within a year.
>
> > --
> > Tim Forcer t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk
> > The University of Southampton, UK
>
> > The University is not responsible for my opinions
>
> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't think it ought
> to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of course, been ignored.
> I'd like to see, in addition, some form of consultation exercise with
> naturists (both BN members and not) to see what they actually want from
> their National Representative Body, what they would be prepared to pay and
> do to get it, and the priorities attached. This would reverse the situation
> which obtains now where a few friends get together in a huddle in the EC,
> and then tell everyone what they're going to get, and expect them to be
> grateful and look bemused if they're not.

The same questions need to be asked so that a comparison can be made
to evaluate any changes, but that doesn't preclude the addition of new
questions, in fact that would be a good idea.

Pete Knight

Tim Forcer

On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37 "Duncan Heenan wrote:

> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't
> think it ought to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of
> course, been ignored.

Err, the EC says its probably going to run a survey. So they are
doing what Duncan has urged. Why does he then say he's been ignored?

Duncan Heenan

"Tim Forcer" <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
news:md4pa35sbdf831o009s1jtr7igsvsrc0da@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37 "Duncan Heenan wrote:
>
>> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't
>> think it ought to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of
>> course, been ignored.
>
> Err, the EC says its probably going to run a survey. So they are
> doing what Duncan has urged. Why does he then say he's been ignored?

Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.
Not all surveys are the same. Principally, I'd like to include an
investigation in to what British naturists generally would want from a
National Representative body, and the questions surrounding that.

Tim Forcer

On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:49 Duncan Heenan wrote:
>
> Tim Forcer wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37 "Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>
>>> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't
>>> think it ought to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of
>>> course, been ignored.
>>
>> Err, the EC says its probably going to run a survey. So they are
>> doing what Duncan has urged. Why does he then say he's been ignored?
>
> Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.
> Not all surveys are the same. Principally, I'd like to include an
> investigation in to what British naturists generally would want from a
> National Representative body, and the questions surrounding that.

The survey will probably be of 2000 adults, of whom around 40 will
call themselves naturists. I'm not sure of the benefit of asking 40
people what they might want from a National Representative Body. If I
felt so inclined, I could dig out my 2001 poll files and get an idea
of what the cost of that benefit would be. But I don't feel
sufficiently bothered right now. Doesn't help that my PC's PSU
exploded last week, zapping the motherboard in the process, and I'm
struggling to get back to a semblance of normal operation. (Yes, I
had backup. The mains excursion which killed the PC killed the backup
too. Fortunately the PC hard drive was OK, but it wasn't possible
simply to drop it into a new tower - various reasons, all boring and
nothing to do with naturism.)

</OT>

Still, if Duncan is elected, he will be part of the EC which decides
how, when and whether the survey goes ahead, and he'll be able to
exert significant influence on the questions asked.

Steve Doerr

Tim Forcer wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:49 Duncan Heenan wrote:
>> Tim Forcer wrote:
>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37 "Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't
>>>> think it ought to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of
>>>> course, been ignored.
>>> Err, the EC says its probably going to run a survey. So they are
>>> doing what Duncan has urged. Why does he then say he's been ignored?
>> Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.

Quite right too: that's their job.

>> Not all surveys are the same. Principally, I'd like to include an
>> investigation in to what British naturists generally would want from a
>> National Representative body, and the questions surrounding that.
>
> The survey will probably be of 2000 adults, of whom around 40 will
> call themselves naturists. I'm not sure of the benefit of asking 40
> people what they might want from a National Representative Body.

What the EC is considering is a (sort of) rerun of the 2001 (alias
'2000') NOP poll, i.e. a poll of the general public, whereas Duncan
seems to envisage something more along the lines of Andrew Welch's
2004/5 survey of members and other naturists - perhaps with the emphasis
on a broader cross-section of naturists rather than (as in Andrew's
survey) a population composed mainly of BN members. Of course, the
difficulty there is in reaching the population required - would H & E
Naturist readers provide a representative selection for instance?

--
Steve (as Himself)

Duncan Heenan

"Tim Forcer" <tmf@ecs.soton.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> snip <
> Still, if Duncan is elected, he will be part of the EC which decides
> how, when and whether the survey goes ahead, and he'll be able to
> exert significant influence on the questions asked.

That would be nice!
Good luck with the PC.

Duncan Heenan

"Steve Doerr" <REVERSEdoerr.steve@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Igrri.7198$By5.5246@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> Tim Forcer wrote:
>> On Mon, 30 Jul 2007 16:49 Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>> Tim Forcer wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 23 Jul 2007 09:37 "Duncan Heenan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have been pressing for a survey for some time, but I don't
>>>>> think it ought to be an exact repeat of 2000. I have , of
>>>>> course, been ignored.
>>>> Err, the EC says its probably going to run a survey. So they are
>>>> doing what Duncan has urged. Why does he then say he's been ignored?
>>> Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.
>
> Quite right too: that's their job.
>
>>> Not all surveys are the same. Principally, I'd like to include an
>>> investigation in to what British naturists generally would want from a
>>> National Representative body, and the questions surrounding that.
>>
>> The survey will probably be of 2000 adults, of whom around 40 will
>> call themselves naturists. I'm not sure of the benefit of asking 40
>> people what they might want from a National Representative Body.
>
> What the EC is considering is a (sort of) rerun of the 2001 (alias '2000')
> NOP poll, i.e. a poll of the general public, whereas Duncan seems to
> envisage something more along the lines of Andrew Welch's 2004/5 survey of
> members and other naturists - perhaps with the emphasis on a broader
> cross-section of naturists rather than (as in Andrew's survey) a
> population composed mainly of BN members. Of course, the difficulty there
> is in reaching the population required - would H & E Naturist readers
> provide a representative selection for instance?
>
> --
> Steve (as Himself)

Do you have a view on this, Steve?

Duncan Heenan

> "Steve Doerr" <REVERSEdoerr.steve@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:Igrri.7198$By5.5246@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> snip < Why does he then say he's been ignored?
>> Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.
>
> Quite right too: that's their job.

So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, to include deliberate
untruths in minutes, to fail to answer correspondence, and to refuse to
meet members even when they offer to cover all the costs of doing so? That's
how the EC (or a large part of it anyway) currently does its job.
I look forward to your support.

Hagar

"Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
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>> "Steve Doerr" <REVERSEdoerr.steve@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:Igrri.7198$By5.5246@text.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> snip < Why does he then say he's been ignored?
>>> Because they are going to do what they feel is right, not what I do.
>>
>> Quite right too: that's their job.
>
> So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
> wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, to include
> deliberate untruths in minutes, to fail to answer correspondence, and to
> refuse to meet members even when they offer to cover all the costs of
> doing so? That's how the EC (or a large part of it anyway) currently does
> its job.
> I look forward to your support.
>
>

__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ ______

Duncan you will be elected treasurer! as treasurer you are responsible for
the financial running of BN, not the policy, please remember that.
It will not be up to you to say what policy or challenges BN should
undertake.

Plus you by law and BN constitution you cant access details of members. I
made sure of this in correspondence with BN and also asked that all our
details were removed from the BN data base, which as ex members we were
entitled by law to request. ( don't trust you with personal details)

Duncan you quote
!" So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
> wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, "

Duncan as treasurer you are concerned with fiancé; not the day to day
running of BN (thank God) that is down to the full EC of 16 members not you.

Please remember you are or will be treasurer elect, not the person
responsible for running BN or dictating policy.

Duncan you must learn to accept that others have very different views to you
on how naturism and BN should move forward.

Regards

Bertrum Hagar-Flack

Richard T

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:22:26 GMT, "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote:


>Duncan you will be elected treasurer!

Do you have some special knowledge which is denied to the rest of us?

>Plus you by law and BN constitution you cant access details of members. I
>made sure of this in correspondence with BN and also asked that all our
>details were removed from the BN data base, which as ex members we were
>entitled by law to request. ( don't trust you with personal details)

Given that you only ever appear under a pseudonym (or three) how do
you suppose Duncan would know which records to access? And even if he
did what do you suppose he'd do with them?

>Duncan as treasurer you are concerned with fiancé;

Whose fiancé would that be?

>not the day to day
>running of BN (thank God) that is down to the full EC of 16 members not you.

As an ex-member what possible concern is it of yours?

Richard T

Duncan Heenan

"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>snip <

Hello Bertie, how's life in Vikingland?

> Duncan you will be elected treasurer! as treasurer you are responsible for
> the financial running of BN, not the policy, please remember that.
> It will not be up to you to say what policy or challenges BN should
> undertake.

Nonsense. See my election address, and the BN document on roles &
responsibilities of BN EC members.

> Plus you by law and BN constitution you cant access details of members. I
> made sure of this in correspondence with BN and also asked that all our
> details were removed from the BN data base, which as ex members we were
> entitled by law to request. ( don't trust you with personal details)

I have told you and Paul/ Stephen / Richard that I will obey The Law. If I
do not you are welcome to call the appropriate authorities. You are also
welcome to join BN rather than sniping from outside.

> Duncan you quote
> !" So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
>> wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, "
>
> Duncan as treasurer you are concerned with fiancé; not the day to day
> running of BN (thank God) that is down to the full EC of 16 members not
> you.

I am already married, thanks Bertie, so i have no interest in a fiancé
[sic].
As for the EC, see the Roles & Responsibilties document.

> Please remember you are or will be treasurer elect, not the person
> responsible for running BN or dictating policy.

What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't join
because you're scared it will go bust.

> Duncan you must learn to accept that others have very different views to
> you on how naturism and BN should move forward.

I know we all have different views. You too would do well to accept that

> Regards
>
> Bertrum Hagar-Flack

Maybe someone with such a split personality should see more than one
psychiatrist?!

Duncan Heenan

"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> snip<
> Duncan you will be elected treasurer! as treasurer you are responsible for
> the financial running of BN, not the policy, please remember that.
> It will not be up to you to say what policy or challenges BN should
> undertake.
>
> Plus you by law and BN constitution you cant access details of members. I
> made sure of this in correspondence with BN and also asked that all our
> details were removed from the BN data base, which as ex members we were
> entitled by law to request. ( don't trust you with personal details)
>
> Duncan you quote
> !" So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
>> wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, "
>
> Duncan as treasurer you are concerned with fiancé; not the day to day
> running of BN (thank God) that is down to the full EC of 16 members not
> you.
>
> Please remember you are or will be treasurer elect, not the person
> responsible for running BN or dictating policy.
>
> Duncan you must learn to accept that others have very different views to
> you on how naturism and BN should move forward.
>
> Regards
>
> Bertrum Hagar-Flack

You really ought not to keep firing off Margot's ammunition in your gun you
know Bertie. Let her use her own mouth if she has something to say, as she's
just feeding you tripe and hiding behind you.

Duncan Heenan

"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
> snip<
> Duncan you will be elected treasurer! as treasurer you are responsible for
> the financial running of BN, not the policy, please remember that.
> It will not be up to you to say what policy or challenges BN should
> undertake.
>
> Plus you by law and BN constitution you cant access details of members. I
> made sure of this in correspondence with BN and also asked that all our
> details were removed from the BN data base, which as ex members we were
> entitled by law to request. ( don't trust you with personal details)
>
> Duncan you quote
> !" So, Steve, will you also consider it my job (if elected to the EC), to
>> wholly ignore the constructive suggestions of members, "
>
> Duncan as treasurer you are concerned with fiancé; not the day to day
> running of BN (thank God) that is down to the full EC of 16 members not
> you.
>
> Please remember you are or will be treasurer elect, not the person
> responsible for running BN or dictating policy.
>
> Duncan you must learn to accept that others have very different views to
> you on how naturism and BN should move forward.
>
> Regards
>
> Bertrum Hagar-Flack

You really ought not to keep firing off Margot's ammunition in your gun you
know Bertie. Let her use her own mouth if she has something to say, as she's
just feeding you tripe and hiding behind you.

Hagar

"Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
message news:46b0887a$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>
> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>snip <
>
> Hello Bertie, how's life in Vikingland?


Great Duncan though the cost of living is a bit high, but Homer is helping
me pay :-)
>
>> Duncan you will be elected treasurer! as treasurer you are responsible
>> for the financial running of BN, not the policy, please remember that.
>> It will not be up to you to say what policy or challenges BN should
>> undertake.
>
> Nonsense. See my election address, and the BN document on roles &
> responsibilities of BN EC members.


Ok I stand corrected Duncan :-(
>

>
> I have told you and Paul/ Stephen / Richard that I will obey The Law. If I
> do not you are welcome to call the appropriate authorities. You are also
> welcome to join BN rather than sniping from outside.


Can I snipe from inside then please Duncan :-0
>
>
> I am already married, thanks Bertie, so I have no interest in a fiancé
> [sic].


So your breaking off our engagement, I am ever so sad as I thought we made a
lovely couple



>
> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't join
> because you're scared it will go bust.



Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to know
what our financial liability would be should the worst ever happen
>
>> Duncan you must learn to accept that others have very different views to
>> you on how naturism and BN should move forward.
>
> I know we all have different views. You too would do well to accept that

Ok very fair comment Duncan and I accept that, as long as views are not
forced on others!
>
>> Regards
>>
>> Bertrum Hagar-Flack
>
> Maybe someone with such a split personality should see more than one
> psychiatrist?!
> But I have several psychiatrist's now for all my split personalities, but
> ok another couple wont go wrong, might cost the NHS a few quid though

Hagar

"Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
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>
> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>> snip<
>>

>
> You really ought not to keep firing off Margot's ammunition in your gun
> you know Bertie. Let her use her own mouth if she has something to say, as
> she's just feeding you tripe and hiding behind you.
>
>


Just to keep the record straight Duncan, I am not firing off Margot's
ammunition, so please rule her out, its nothing to do with anybody but you
and I, we cross swords and agree to differ that's it.
I cant sit here and watch an innocent party get accused

Kind regards

Bertrum Hagar-Flack (the Viking)

Duncan Heenan

"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>snip<
>> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't
>> join because you're scared it will go bust.
>
>
>
> Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to know
> what our financial liability would be should the worst ever happen

You should ask the current BN Treasurer or Chairman that question which you
can do on treasurer@british-naturism.org.uk or
chairman@british-naturism.org.uk


It would be interesting to hear what answer you get.

Duncan Heenan

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>
> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:f8q4m8$5me$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>> snip<
>>>
>
>>
>> You really ought not to keep firing off Margot's ammunition in your gun
>> you know Bertie. Let her use her own mouth if she has something to say,
>> as she's just feeding you tripe and hiding behind you.
>>
>>
>
>
> Just to keep the record straight Duncan, I am not firing off Margot's
> ammunition, so please rule her out, its nothing to do with anybody but you
> and I, we cross swords and agree to differ that's it.
> I cant sit here and watch an innocent party get accused
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bertrum Hagar-Flack (the Viking)
You, innocent?!
She doesn't tell you everything, Bertie.

marc

Duncan Heenan wrote:
> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%83si.36418$2U6.12674@fe1.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:f8q4m8$5me$1@aioe.org...
>>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:6SMri.12863$7c.11564@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.u k...
>>>> snip<
>>>>
>>> You really ought not to keep firing off Margot's ammunition in your gun
>>> you know Bertie. Let her use her own mouth if she has something to say,
>>> as she's just feeding you tripe and hiding behind you.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Just to keep the record straight Duncan, I am not firing off Margot's
>> ammunition, so please rule her out, its nothing to do with anybody but you
>> and I, we cross swords and agree to differ that's it.
>> I cant sit here and watch an innocent party get accused
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Bertrum Hagar-Flack (the Viking)
> You, innocent?!
> She doesn't tell you everything, Bertie.


Remind me again, is Margot the harridan that humpfs whenever someone
says something she doesn't agree with? Does she work, and if so how did
she survive?

Hagar

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>
> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>>snip<
>>> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't
>>> join because you're scared it will go bust.
>>
>>
>>
>> Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to know
>> what our financial liability would be should the worst ever happen
>
> You should ask the current BN Treasurer or Chairman that question which
> you can do on treasurer@british-naturism.org.uk or
> chairman@british-naturism.org.uk
>
>
> It would be interesting to hear what answer you get.
>
>
>I did and the answer was they could not tell me! but they thought the
>liability would be restricted to the fees you have paid. They also said
>should the worst happen the property (head office) is paid for and should
>cover any debt

Duncan Heenan

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>
> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:46b2dcc0$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>
>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:g43si.36417$2U6.17110@fe1.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>>snip<
>>>> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't
>>>> join because you're scared it will go bust.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to
>>> know what our financial liability would be should the worst ever happen
>>
>> You should ask the current BN Treasurer or Chairman that question which
>> you can do on treasurer@british-naturism.org.uk or
>> chairman@british-naturism.org.uk
>>
>>
>> It would be interesting to hear what answer you get.
>>
>>
>>I did and the answer was they could not tell me! but they thought the
>>liability would be restricted to the fees you have paid. They also said
>>should the worst happen the property (head office) is paid for and should
>>cover any debt
>
I wonder what they meant by " they thought the liability would be restricted
to the fees you have paid." This makes no sense to me. Do you have any
further explanation of this statement?

:Jerry:

"Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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<snip>
>
> I did and the answer was they could not tell me! but they thought
> the liability would be restricted to the fees you have paid. They
> also said should the worst happen the property (head office) is paid
> for and should cover any debt

So if someone was to seek uninsured damages for a few million (not an
OTT sum if personal injury has occoured, such as to a child that will
need many years of after care) are they seriously suggesting that the
head office building is worth many millions - if that is what they
mean, not only are they terminally clueless and are living in cloud
cuckoo land! :~(

Hagar

"Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
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> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:khIsi.17366$7c.550@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
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>> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>> message news:46b2dcc0$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>
>>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:g43si.36417$2U6.17110@fe1.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>>>snip<
>>>>> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't
>>>>> join because you're scared it will go bust.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to
>>>> know what our financial liability would be should the worst ever happen
>>>
>>> You should ask the current BN Treasurer or Chairman that question which
>>> you can do on treasurer@british-naturism.org.uk or
>>> chairman@british-naturism.org.uk
>>>
>>>
>>> It would be interesting to hear what answer you get.
>>>
>>>
>>>I did and the answer was they could not tell me! but they thought the
>>>liability would be restricted to the fees you have paid. They also said
>>>should the worst happen the property (head office) is paid for and should
>>>cover any debt
>>
> I wonder what they meant by " they thought the liability would be
> restricted to the fees you have paid." This makes no sense to me. Do you
> have any further explanation of this statement?
>
>



Sorry I cant give an explanation; as the above is all I got in the reply
Duncan

Duncan Heenan

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> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
> message news:f98uin$he4$1@aioe.org...
>>
>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:khIsi.17366$7c.550@fe2.news.blueyonder.co.uk. ..
>>>
>>> "Duncan Heenan" <pleasenospammersduncanheenan@tiscali.co.uk> wrote in
>>> message news:46b2dcc0$1_1@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com...
>>>>
>>>> "Hagar" <fatmobo@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:g43si.36417$2U6.17110@fe1.news.blueyonder.co. uk...
>>>>>snip<
>>>>>> What is it to you Bertie? You aren't even a member, and say you won't
>>>>>> join because you're scared it will go bust.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Correct Duncan, but we are considering re-joining, but would love to
>>>>> know what our financial liability would be should the worst ever
>>>>> happen
>>>>
>>>> You should ask the current BN Treasurer or Chairman that question which
>>>> you can do on treasurer@british-naturism.org.uk or
>>>> chairman@british-naturism.org.uk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It would be interesting to hear what answer you get.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I did and the answer was they could not tell me! but they thought the
>>>>liability would be restricted to the fees you have paid. They also said
>>>>should the worst happen the property (head office) is paid for and
>>>>should cover any debt
>>>
>> I wonder what they meant by " they thought the liability would be
>> restricted to the fees you have paid." This makes no sense to me. Do you
>> have any further explanation of this statement?
>>
>>
>
>
>
> Sorry I cant give an explanation; as the above is all I got in the reply
> Duncan
So are you going to join BN, or not?